November 23 2003
Peter David Reviews 5ADH08 'Destiny.'
"I've always said the best kind of twist is the one that you didn't see coming but, once it's here, you go, 'Of course! What else could be more logical!'"
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It really amuses me to see people slag off other people's attempts at Irish accents, when they themselves wouldn't be able to tell a Donegal lass from a Kerry man, or a Northside skanger from a Southside smoothie. I thought it was hilarious how people thought Glenn Quinn's accent wasn't real just because they'd never heard a real Dub speak. Righ'?
Caroline | November 23, 13:52 CET
I think back to the time they all lost their memories, but Angel still 'talked American' and the flashback scenes between Angel and the Big Rubber Disco Satan where Angel never spoke at all, and I thought those were as much of an acknowledgement as anything we would ever find that the Irish thang just wasn't working for David. I thought he'd sworn off accents. So I was very surprised to hear him trying it again now, but this time pleasantly so, as noted in a previous post, because he seems to be doing something right now.
Prolific? Simon? What do those closer to the matter think?
melsta | November 23, 17:22 CET
As it happens I'm not that familiar with the Galway accent, which is where Angel is supposed to be from, but from the few times I have been to Galway (city) it did strike me as the most 'generic' Irish accent I've heard.
I'm listening to Galway radio as we speak - 'course radio presenters aren't the most reliable people to base your impressions on, but judging from this sample, David does a reasonable job for someone who's obviously not a natural mimic. (He can't sing either, that says a lot. You've got to have a musical year to be a good mimic.)
English and American actors who can do a good Irish accent... Daniel Day Lewis, Kevin Spacey wasn't bad (and he's a great singer), Samantha Morton and Paddy Considine (both English) do a good job in 'In America' (go see it!).
Tony Head's American accent is hilarious.
Caroline | November 23, 17:44 CET
lyn | November 23, 17:49 CET
Worst Irish accent was Tom Cruise in "Far and Away (and Over the Top)".
Simon | November 23, 19:17 CET
Scott | November 23, 19:23 CET
melsta | November 24, 00:27 CET
Or is the Mastermind his right (or was it left?) hand?
kishi | November 24, 02:42 CET
Russell Crow did a pretty good job in "L.A. Confidential." (He based his voice on the director, Curtis Hanson, who I think is also a native Angeleno.)
bobster | November 24, 07:40 CET
Well, as stated it's a separate talent that actually a minority of actors really has.
I have noticed as well though that I can't think of a single british actor who can do a convincing american accent. I have yet to see Michael Caine's last movie (The Quiet American? Was that it?) but in Cider House he was laughable. Not his acting mind you, that was great if not as big a role as I'd hoped, but his accent was very much NOT New England.
And yes Australian actors seem to fare a lot better (Russel Crowe, Gut Pierce, Hugh Jackman) even though they have a very clear and hard to miss dialect of their own. It's interesting stuff.
I still say James Marsters does a very good job generally. I'm certain no one from North London thinks he's from North London, but I have spoken to brits who at least did think he was indeed from somewhere in England.
EdDantes | November 24, 12:48 CET
brother_grady | November 24, 20:30 CET
Caroline | November 24, 22:55 CET
pesoto74 | November 25, 03:04 CET