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May 31 2010

Zombies in the Whedonverse. Fun article that talks of shows that could've been saved by the presence of zombies, including one of Joss Whedon's.

Well, they did sort of have zombies in the Epitaph episodes, didn't they?

...Further proof, then, that broadcasting "Epitaph One" would have saved the show.
Butchers and dumbshows weren't good enough?

Although I do quite like the idea of a zombie apocalypse in FlashForward. If that was in the future, I so wouldn't have lost interest.
Beergood, they weren't truly zombies. Not even in the 28 Days Later sense.

I really appreciated how this article mentions 8 seasons of Buffy too. That made me smile. Especially when the guy in the comments tries to go off about that only to get corrected.
Basically every Whedon work has had a form of zombie *If you get generous with the description.

Wow, I just realized I might not even be kidding. Horrible has Dead Bowie, Astonishing had dead student(s), Runaways had that one old-timey dude with the top hat, And Buffy and Angel both had hordes of undead and/or mindless reanimated several times over.

Butchers, reavers, or even that time Alpha infected the actives are all basically that same sort of mindless attacking hordes that can't be reasoned with. (And at least the middle one some how/sometimes can pass on and infect others).

The zombie thing may be nearing saturation point but despite that I'm still rather into them. Some of those series actually could have become more intriguing with the possibility of this new kind of threat. Even Pushing Daisies' comic book spin-off/continuation is supposed to deal with hordes of the alive-again.
Dead Bowie? Say what now?
One of the briefly seen characters in Dr Horrible, on the inner circle of the Evil League of Evil, is a David Bowie lookalike (or be-alike, not sure if it's actually meant to be him or not) called Dead Bowie as played by none other than Mr Jed Whedon, esq.

Gotta agree with the basic premise - what isn't better with zombies ? With '24' for instance Jack Bauer saving the world from a zombie apocalypse is pretty much just the next logical step. Then season 10 would've presumably been preventing an asteroid impact, the one after would probably have been a more metaphysical threat like widespread nihilism due to determinism being categorically proven and then season 12 would've been the much anticipated "Jack Bauer vs God".

("Monday" morning nitpick: it was 2 minutes 17 seconds in 'Flashforward' - 2 minutes 15 seconds wouldn't be 137 seconds and so wouldn't have anything to do with the fine structure constant. OK, neither did the show as it turns out but let's not spoil a good dangling plotline with facts)
They did have zombies on Dollhouse. They had a whole frickin apocalypse storyline.
Yep, except they "ate" minds rather than brains (or rather than both I guess I should say - brains without minds are easy, minds without brains not so much).
Sorry, I've no use whatever for Romero-esque "morbs" (as I call them) so I have nothing to say in this thread.
I dunno. I really don't think of Dollhouse having zombies. I mean really, 28 Days Later was even pushing it.

Buffy, yes.

Dollhouse...not really.
They're not strictly zombies but they share a lot of the properties (if we're less literal about being undead and eating braaaiinnnnns then they basically are IMO but as with all categories, people see the essential qualifying criteria differently). Or just call them "infecteds" in the same way the "zombies" from "28 Days/Weeks Later" were and see them as a closely related branch on the "mindless enemy" tree (the Borg for instance are arguably a further branch on the same tree).

Being overwhelmingly outnumbered and the seeming inevitability of your individuality eventually being subsumed (or even consumed ;) are as big a part of the zombie category for me but as I say, mileage varies.
With '24' for instance Jack Bauer saving the world from a zombie apocalypse is pretty much just the next logical step. Then season 10 would've presumably been preventing an asteroid impact, the one after would probably have been a more metaphysical threat like widespread nihilism due to determinism being categorically proven and then season 12 would've been the much anticipated "Jack Bauer vs God".


I don't know why you don't have a career in television, Saje. I only watched S1, but this would definitely bring me back.
Simulpost !

What can I say catherine, there ain't no justice. Personally I think it was a combination of budget and network nervousness over how middle America would respond (apparently asteroids don't play well there) but we may never know.
I'm thinking Reavers fit the zombie mold, even before the Serenity siege scene made that blatant. Even had Bushwhacked to show that contact with Reavers can "infect" a person.
the one after would probably have been a more metaphysical threat like widespread nihilism due to determinism being categorically proven

Damn. My favorite show ever and it never got made! What could be better than watching Jack Bauer torture the nihilism out of people who have no free will? I hope there's fan fic.

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