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July 07 2010

Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams panel at Comic-Con? So says the LA Times. What's a cool version of squee?

Only thing I need to know about this rumor is which is the astronaut and which the caveman.

[ edited by The One True b!X on 2010-07-07 16:28 ]
Squeeing isn't cool?! Meh!
UBER-SQUEE! just as awesome as last years one with the ladies, now add the two of them together and the universe may implode!!
No, squeeing is cool, the word 'squee' isn't ;).
Predicting: a mutual agreement of the greatness that is Goddard.

Also, for my head to explode with joy.
Two of the most interesting, entertaining and intelligent story tellers of the last fifty years. I loathe everyone who gets to see this live.
So, I need to get in line for this now? Oy!
I'm already in line - SUCKERS!!!
There's no way I even bother to get in line for this. I might try to stow away in Joss' backpack, however. (Think of the photo opportunities.)
I know JJ has said that one sentence about Joss being a good storyteller before (or something) but I'm curious if Joss has ever watched any of JJ's shows. Never heard him mention any of them, ever.

Also, it just hit me hard that I can't go to this.
I don't suppose JJ wants to shock everyone by rocking up and announcing the panel actually already took place in the past in Australia? (I'm free tomorrow!)

No? Bugger.
The panel actually took place in Fringe's alternate world. ~spoooooooky~
Not heard many Joss comments regarding JJ work in the past. I remember him noting that Lost was rare in that it became "Bam! America is watching" and I know he referenced Alias as an example of the changing climate of television which perhaps benefitted from Buffy.

For JJ's part, he's always admired Joss's voice and his universes. I know he offered to produce Cabin in the Woods, but was declined for what JJ said was for "obvious reasons" (presumably because they wanted to produce it themselves). Looking at where CITW is now within the MGM horror, having some of that Bad Robot mojo might have helped.

Pretty sure I've seen pictures of them together at various geekfests.
So I'm curious about why JJ Abrams and Joss are doing a panel together

Is this a Marvel movies panel, with Joss on Avengers and JJ Abrams directing or producing another Marvel property?

Or does Joss have some time away from Avengers to work with JJ Abrams on one of the many projects he has on the go?

Or are they just fans of each other's work and thought it would be fun to share a panel?

Any other guesses?
Cabin in the Woods is really a sequel to Cloverfield. You heard it here first and last.
My dance card for SDCC is starting to get full and the programming schedule hasn't even been published yet!

This has just moved to the front of the line (cutting in on zeitgeist!)
Matt_Fabb -

Pre-Avengers, I would have argued that Joss pitching his wagon to JJ Abrams would have been a great idea, because he is one of the few guys who can just get sh*t made. Studios don't give him notes, they don't invade his work, he's in that brief window which means he can do whatever he wants, and he isn't shy about using that power to benefit other artists he admires. With Joss's history of being banged around by the corporate machine, Abrams would be a very beneficial partner.

BUT - Joss has Avengers now, and that could be his ticket to achieving the same power if that project goes well.

I suspect the panel will have some kind of thesis or discussion point. "The men who reinvented the Space Opera" or "Geeks who rule Hollywood", or "Genre film making in the 21st Century" or even "I'm rich but my fans are scary". Something like that.
Matt_Fabb, EW puts on random "showrunner" or "icon" panels every year. There doesn't have to be a reason for the pairing other than sheer awesomeness.
I would do most anything to attend a panel of such awesome-itude.
A friend from Paramount once told me JJ and Joss are friends.

Also, Eliza was on the EW panel with Weaver and Saldana last year.
I intensely dislike that sq word. It makes me feel like I'm being smothered by a giant marshmallow dressed in a unicorn outfit that's been drizzled with honey and sprinkles.

This panel, on the other hand, sounds great. I may or may not sacrifice a day to attend, depending on when it's scheduled, but (a) there'll always be video reportage later; and (b) it'll be a good time to do, oh, almost anything else at the Con. :-)
Whenever I hear the word, my mind goes straight to the character known as Squee. Even to this day.
I intensely dislike that sq word. It makes me feel like I'm being smothered by a giant marshmallow dressed in a unicorn outfit that's been drizzled with honey and sprinkles.

That sounds hot!
Thanks brinderwalt, Summer Glau squeeing is enough to convince everyone that it is cool!
I'm not too thrilled at the idea of the panel, because I like to have Joss center stage, leading his own panel. I'm not wanting someone else taking over and wasting all the time talking about things I'm not interested in (ie Fringe). But of course I won't be there, so it is a moot point.
The master of allegory and the master of literal at the same table.
Yeah I'm not an Abrams fan, but still the excitement is so understandable! Although I hated Lost and think Fringe is rubbish, I did like early Felicity so you know he has some redemptive qualities!
And here comes the Abrams bashing. Shocked that it took this long.
And as usual bashing Abrams for shows he barely has anything, if anything, to do with.
I like Abrams' TED talk. It's an intriguing pairing for a panel.
Is JJ going to abandon the panel halfway through?
I didn't mean to start any Abrams bashing, I was just saying that I would only be there to hear Joss talk about his projects, and those panels are all too short (IMO) to be divided among different creators talking about different projects. I saw Marti Noxon at the one Comic Con I attended, and I don't think she managed to talk more than two minutes, there were way too many people on that panel!
Is JJ going to abandon the panel halfway through?


I think we can do without the cheap jokes at Abrams expense. It's old, I'm over it.
I would only be there to hear Joss talk about his projects, and those panels are all too short (IMO) to be divided among different creators talking about different projects

Maybe a multi-creator panel just isn't a good match for your interests then.
Abrams is a genius. Really. His mind is full of crazy ideas and he's very good at getting them executed. He's also obsessed with mystery and powerful women. Yeah: I'm a fan.
So the minute someone says they don't like something it's called 'bashing'? I thought it was an opinion...i really did like felicity...that wasn't a joke! But as someone else said they didn't like fringe and weren't too keen on listening to a chat about it, I was agreeing that listening to that and lost wouldn't float my boat either! I'd rather some old school discussion than focusing on his more recent work and lots of people associate him with those shows despite the level of his input.
LOVED Alias. Almost obsessively.
A couple of somewhat negative comments doesn't add up to bashing in my book. Still, it's always best to focus on the positive, yes? :-). I loved JJ's Star Trek reboot, and would be happy to hear him talk on the strength of that alone.

I don't think a panel shared between just two creators will suffer overly, though when you get up to four, five, six, and more on a panel, it can get a little frustrating when the moderator is not very good at involving them all. C.f. Jane Espenson last year on the Caprica panel.
No one knows if JJ is going to be directing Star Trek (X)II. If Joss wasn't lined up for Avengers, people would suggest JJ pick Joss to be the director of the next film. Heck, it still could happen. Both projects are being overseen by Paramount.
Just wanted to chime in and say that I LOVE and adore LOST. It's quite possibly my second favorite show after the Buffyverse. Although I always thought LOST was much more the work of Cuse and Lindelof than Abrams. So, I'd definitely be interested in this, though mostly for Joss.
Joss directing Star Trek would be interesting, but I'm guessing it'd get significant fan backlash. As I recall, Joss isn't a fan of the Trek.
Jobo, neither was JJ. He was/is a Wars man.
Joss directing Star Trek would be interesting, but I'm guessing it'd get significant fan backlash. As I recall, Joss isn't a fan of the Trek.

That was kinda one of the main points of certain other things, after all.

[ edited by brinderwalt on 2010-07-08 05:43 ]
Heh, true enough. That said, I've been getting into Next Gen recently--in the middle of season four now--and I can totally see how it was as popular as it once was.

Interesting about Abrams, I didn't realize he wasn't a Trekkie prior to directing the movie.
It's funny: I used to be a rabid Star Trek fan myself. Then I discovered Firefly - haven't looked back since.
Firefly is very much constructed in reaction to Trek, of course. But it's not a replacement for it because they are really just such different shows. Trek is a large canvas on which literally any story can be painted. It's a vehicle designed to explore more than just space. It's the best and the brightest, the idealised version of what we could and should be, going out to conquer the final frontier.

Firefly is a much smaller and intimate story of a particular group at a particular time. It's a family show in many ways, and it looks to explore what it takes for someone to be heroic.

Love them both dearly.
Thanks for the info about EW Comic-Con panels.

Also those who are thinking about making last minute decisions of going to San Diego Comic-Con, unfortunately it sold out (multi-day passes and single day passes) many months ago. Perhaps there might be some scalping of tickets, but certainly it won't be easy to get in. The event desperately needs a bigger venue, as it's now selling out now earlier each year.
That sounds hot!


Then you won't want to miss the SoddingNancyTribe/zeitgeist panel at Comic-Con moderated by b!X!.

Spoiler: It's gossi in the unicorn outfit!

Summer Glau squeeing is enough to convince everyone that it is cool!


No way, man, she was squealing; she worked hard to earn every letter of that word, so don't you take any away from her!

[ edited by zeitgeist on 2010-07-08 15:25 ]
You should see the rider in my contract to moderate the SNT/z panel. Have you ever tried to work with those two?
Weren't JJ and Joss roommates at one time, long ago? I thought I read that somewhere.
Has Joss Whedon ever done a TED talk? If not, why not?

electricspacegirl: "Weren't JJ and Joss roommates at one time, long ago? I thought I read that somewhere."

No you're confusing Joss & JJ with Clark & Lex. Understandable misunderstanding.

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