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July 19 2010

"We couldn't keep up with demand". 20th Century Fox gives a unique interpretation of last year's farce that was the Comic-Con Dollhouse Season 1 DVDs.

Yeah, but it's there job to put a positive spin on it. Did we really expect anything different?
They ran out of DVDs?
What's this they mention about a special edition of the Buffy DVDs?
It says "special packaging", what's inside may be no different (i'd go so far as to say if no-one on here has heard about a special release then there probably isn't one).

And if I ever use the word "skedded" straight-faced and without irony ? Please kill me immediately. If not sooner.
Do new columnists at Variety have to learn Variety-speak before they're allowed to write, or do the editors go in there and convert certain words before going to press ? 'Cause "scheduled" is only two more letters than "skedded", so...why, Variety, why ? I know harping on their weird Hollywood-agent/elitist-seeming vocabulary is old(no clue if Hollywood agents actually say "skedded"), but the question forever stands.
I used to hear sked used internally at Fox. And now I use it sometimes, sob.
If I knew for sure they did it in a knowing way, to mock that exact sort of self-important faux jargon then I guess i'd feel slightly better about it. The words themselves would still annoy because as slang goes, it scans badly and is contrived but at least i'd know they knew that.

Or if they even started using it knowingly and then lost sight of that, fair enough, i've done that myself (used a term facetiously for years until one day, I realise i've forgotten that's how I use it. Kind of the dark side of "fake it to make it").
I think the reference to BtVS is taken out of context. That isn't a quote. My guess is that the motion comic was mentioned during the interview and the "reporter" threw it in.

And yeah, I use sked all the time. I spell it sched though. :)

[ edited by TamaraC on 2010-07-19 19:32 ]
Please tell me you don't use "skedded" (or "schedded" ;) though TamaraC ? You've seemed so sensible up to now.
Cool gossi and TC, fair enough, so Variety's just adapting vocab from the businesspeople they write about. Yay, mystery solved.
Why do people think it's such a negative slang to use? Are Variety-writers the spawn of Satan and all their slang needs to be hated, or what? I don't get the trashing tone in some of these posts.

PS. I'm Swedish, so this is a cultural difference that I'm simply not familiar with yet(I'm not saying you're all evil for being negative). Kind of like Americans insulting French people, which I don't get either.

[ edited by Skytteflickan88 on 2010-07-19 19:51 ]
"Voc fro' bizpeeps" you mean Kris, 'vocab' uses way too many letters. It's exactly like "A Clockwork Orange", i'm telling you. All that's missing is brainwashing and extreme violence and pretty much the rest of "A Clockwork Orange" except some slightly unusual slang words.
Rest easy, Saje. I have never used the term "skedded." I do use "aud" quite a bit though. Usually on twitter. It's shorter.
Hey, Skyttflickan... We swedish are pretty good at insulting norwegians too :) (and vice-versa) It's a thing. Roll with it.
Garim, yeah we do, in silly jokes, but this seems a bit more serious, and I wonder where it comes from.
Skytteflickan88 Garim: I'm not sure of the dislike of "show biz speak" or of Variety's house style, I'll leave thta up to others to answer.

The derogatory comments soem of us in the States make about the French have pretty complex historical and political roots and the reasons are different for many people. I've never studied it in detail so I just have guesses based on my own expereince; you can email me if you want to hear them but they're off-topic here.
Why do people think it's such a negative slang to use? Are Variety-writers the spawn of Satan and all their slang needs to be hated, or what? I don't get the trashing tone in some of these posts.

I can't speak for others, but I personally hate it because it seems forced and unnecessary. Like it's a way to make the magazine exclusive to industry people, when I don't even really hear industry people say these things, at least in my encounters with them. Forced and unnecessary, yeah. Again, just for me!
Saje said:

....sort of self-important faux jargon.... The words themselves would still annoy because as slang goes, it scans badly and is contrived


That's pretty much how I feel about much of the dialogue in Epitaph One (Part 2 plays tons better but has moments), occasionally Firefly (depending on if I'm in a cranky mood) and the writings of Diablo Cody.

Cue the angry mob. Excuse me while I run like hell. :)
They used the resources available to their best advantage possible. Can't really blame them for attempting it. We just don't have to like it. It's just like quoting things out of context, it can be positive way to handle that.
However, It does make me question the efficiency of fan campaigns to save shows by raising money to Variety ads, whether they are actually worth it.
Cue the angry mob. Excuse me while I run like hell. :)

Angry mob, attack ! This is the moment all that carrying of pitchforks and torches everywhere finally pays off ! ... Err, you do all have your pitchforks and torches with you right ? ... *sigh* Why do I even bother ...

(*cough* I actually kind of agree about the Epitaphs. I liked it personally because it was a kind of self-conscious "future-speak" but e.g. "Oh, logoff !" made me smile in a "I would be cringing normally" kind of way ;)

I can't speak for others, but I personally hate it because it seems forced and unnecessary.

Yeah, "forced and unnecessary" about covers it ('hate' is stronger than how I feel though). I realise it's the house style, I just don't like it (just as I don't enjoy those sites where "bitchy" is the house style for instance).

I have never used the term "skedded." I do use "aud" quite a bit though. Usually on twitter. It's shorter.

Phew. Sensibleness prevails ;).

(there's a special dispensation for Twitter - if it's fewer characters it's OK, anything goes I reckon)

Garim, yeah we do, in silly jokes, but this seems a bit more serious, and I wonder where it comes from.

Well, no offence Skytteflickan88 but "silly jokes" are often made for a reason and usually have some historical resentment or mild xenophobia underneath them IMO (we rarely make "silly jokes" about countries we've had no dealings with for instance - in England you won't hear many jokes that start "A Tasmanian walks into a bar ..." but, certainly up until a few years ago, there were many that started "A Scotsman, a Welshman and an Irishman walk into a bar ..."). To be clear though, I don't hate 'Variety' nor harbour any ill-will towards any of their journalists, I just find their slang a bit contrived, a bit pretentious and a bit annoying*. Which means precisely nothing because at the end of the day i'm just some farty on the internet (and I don't even have to read it).

It's a function of a text only medium I think - if a comment's in "print" and not covered in smileys then people see it as a more seriously held opinion but if this were real life it'd be a passing couple of flippant comments, a semi-facetious rant and then done with. To me it's nothing more than that.


* or it's ironic in which case just contrived
Saje, I'm not offended. When I said silly, I meant that we say it without meaning it (atleast that's my impression). I figured it started because we're neighbours and many countries make fun of their neighbours, but since Norway and Sweden have had many wars in the past, that could be a underlying issue, sure, and that made Sweds very willing to mock Norweigans, but today, it's just silly jokes without any real prejudice. I used those "silly jokes" in comparison to the tone here, which was a bit more serious.
Sure Skytteflickan88, my point is that (for me at least) it's only a bit more serious. Which is to say, I mean it but if not for this discussion then today I wouldn't even be thinking about "skedded" or any other example of 'Variety' speak.

Re: jokes, as I say, making them at the expense of another nation is kind of a very (very, very ;) mild continuation of all those wars and invasions and so on from our past, like the dying echoes of actual prejudice (and for some people just a mask for the real thing) - it's usually not racism (because Irish/Scottish/English/Norwegian etc. aren't races) but it's still sometimes offensive. Don't get me wrong, almost everyone does it but it is what it is (what makes me smile is when you hear the exact same joke in different countries but changed so that it's the other country that's the butt of it - people in Scotland still tell Englishman/Irishman/Scotsman jokes for instance but there it's the Scot that comes out on top and that applies to England and Wales too. Not sure about Ireland cos i've never been to the Republic but i'd wager it's true there too).
Skytteflickan88: Are Variety-writers the spawn of Satan and all their slang needs to be hated, or what? I don't get the trashing tone in some of these posts.

Yes. They are. ; > Good call.

I find trashing Variety-speak not only to be a joy - it's a sacred duty. Plus, it's boffo.

(Often, it's not a question of brevity - much of it is just "in-speak" - a language to make the user sound in the know, i.e., "scribbler" is longer than "writer", "Alphabet web" for "ABC TV", "shutter" for "to close", "horse opera" for "Western", etc., etc.)

On the other hand, trashing a whole nation is xenophobic and therefore beyond the pale.

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