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August 30 2010

Another Whedon actor gets mad. Danny Strong makes the third Whedon actor to appear on Mad Men, as adman wannabe Danny Siegel. How is Andrew going to react to seeing Jonathan with Don Draper?

Perhaps Andrew will be too relieved that Jonathan is alive to care.

As if this show needed another reason to make me watch. Still trying to catch up.
5th actually. Andy Umberger aka D'Hoffryn was Betty psychiatrist in season 1, and Adam Kaufman aka Parker was, if I remember correctly, a traveling salesman in season 2.
And with that comment about Peggy's sapphic leanings, time to call in Amber Benson....
Oh right DetectiveYelsew, I remember noticing Parker as the air conditioner salesman who got Betty hot under the collar. Didn't recognize D'Hoffryn as creepy psychiatrist guy. I'll have to rewatch those at some point.

Still there's something extra special about seeing our beloved Jonathon.
AV Club had a good comment:
"Fans of Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Gilmore Girls will recognize the newest addition to SCDP as the talented, diminutive Danny Strong. Strong’s comic skills translate well here, as does his skill for dark undercurrents. [Siegel] may be an untalented nobody, but he’s an untalented nobody who recognizes when he has someone in the position to give him what he needs over a barrel. (Plus: those shots of Hamm towering over Strong = instant hilarity.)"
Danny may be short, but he gives good hugs.
Gosh, ShadowQuest, then why wasn't he in "Must Be Tuesday." (Inside joke, folks.)
Seeing Danny appear was a happy surprise.
I saw Jed Whedon's writer credit on a show on AMC last night. I don't remember whether it was Mad Men or Rubicon.
He's the fourth, at least. I remember the Magic Bullet Book Store owner was in Mad Men for a while.
It must have been Rubicon, janef, because it definitely wasn't Mad Men: that was written by Brett Johnson and Matthew Weiner.

[ edited by moley75 on 2010-08-31 01:17 ]
janef last nights Rubicon was written by Zack Whedon. I'm getting more engrossed in this show by the week. Last night's being one of the best yet.
So, I just did that imdb advanced search where you can see the cast and crew that movies or shows have in common, and the overlap between the Whedonverse and Mad Men is actually pretty big. Some of these people include
Mark Metcalf aka The Master
Rudolf Martin aka Dracula
Alastair Duncan aka Collins the Watcher
Adam Godley aka Clyde Randolph

So there are A LOT of Whedon actors that have been on Mad Men.
And that would be why you're a detective, DetectiveYelsew.

Because, DaddyCatALSO - too many Scoobies spoil the story.

The story stretched the suspension of belief to a gossamer web as it was. How would Danny/Jonathon have fit in?
Not so surprising with Marti being one of the main writers on the show.
@pta16 Thank you for the correction.

I'm finding Rubicon very watchable. However, the creators' artistic choice to set the story in present day and yet rely on late 80s information technology is distracting for me. Stacks of paper files? Desktop computers? Post-Its? Visible miniature microphones? The protagonist seems to be in his late twenties, supposedly very smart, yet we never see him texting or using a thumb drive.
janef, have you ever worked for the US government? I'm guessing that huge sections of it is still in the 80s with regards to technology.
Actually, what's even scarier is how antiquated most of our US hospitals are on the business/data side of things. Computer systems and software jury-rigged together from as far back as the seventies are still in use in some cases. The eighties? Definitely. Oh, and those stacks of paper? Twice as big in a hospital where a lot of record work is still done by hand! Electronic medical records are a joke. It's totally believable that some branch of our behemoth government would be a bit technologically outdated in areas. We've kinda been spending the money elsewhere...
Not so surprising with Marti being one of the main writers on the show.

Actually, the Whedon connections were apparent before Noxon. In fact, I think she joined somewhere at the end of S2 and stayed through S3. I don't think she's still attached to the series.

As for the sapphic leanings comment, I'm not so sure those were Peggy's as much as her friend who is REALLY into her. I can see them doing something with it, but there's also a part of me that thinks that I'll hate it for the simple reason that most things on Mad Men seem to be thought out seasons in advance and a lesbian angle would seem to come out of nowhere with her. I hate seemingly unearned orientation switches. That said, stretch it out a season or more and I might buy it.

Now, if it weren't for that infernal Lucky Strike exec we could bring Sal back...
Season 4 of Mad Men has been absolutely stellar so far.
I haven't seen any sort of Sapphic leanings in Peggy. The Bohemian/proto-hippie she met in the elevator was clearly interested and made an overt pass at her, but Peggy was equally overt in discouraging her. The only reason I could imagine Peggy going the other way would be the fact that she is far more adventurous in her private life than her coworkers can possibly imagine, and she might decide to "experiment", especially if pot were involved. That would fit with her character and the times. As Buffy put "I'm supposed to go through that phase."
azzers, I'm missing Sal too (I love the Lucky Strike recurring-pretty-much-once-a-season guy too though. The actor's kinda hot and entirely convincing, though the character's spoiled and a total sociopath). Sal turned out to be a great character. I worried about what'd happen to him for the first couple seasons (though also hoping for the drama of him being outed). Then for a while I thought he was safe, especially after Kurt (the European guy and Smitty's friend) casually revealed himself and didn't get fired (and Smitty had some comment about there being a lot of homosexuals in advertising, which is why I figured Kurt wasn't bagged over revealing himself, despite this being the early `60s). In the end it wasn't his sexual orientation that got him fired.

Plus the actor that plays Sal is a total bear (a well-groomed one) and, um...rowr.

Agreeing that Mad Men Season 4 is excellent. The tone and look of the show has changed considerably this year, like Angel Season 5 to the previous four seasons of that series (I'm not elevating them to the same status with this comment, sorry Angel). The new offices are way too bright, I miss the woody look of Sterling Cooper, but it's effective (all pure white and clean and new, the fascade of a fresh start). Betty was great, but I'm happy that she hasn't been in every ep or had a prominent arc this year. Bold move losing half the supporting office characters between this season and last (though we've gotten guest spots and Freddie--of all people--came back).
I've been a fan of Mad Men since the beginning and watch every episode. For me, some of the interest is revisiting the times of my childhood and adolescence from an adult point of view. My parents were just about the age of Don and Betty Draper. The material culture, the attitudes and the behavior (including the screwed up child rearing) are completely accurate.

Much as I love it, I'm hoping this season will be the last. They are approaching 1966. 1966 was the beginning of the High Sixties (pun sort of intended), a very different cultural epoch, and I don't think a Madison Avenue ad agency will be the best vantage point to explore it.

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