September 15 2010
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Buffy #39 variant cover and info.
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narky | September 15, 06:16 CET
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wenxina | September 15, 06:22 CET
It looks like Giles is standing in the rubble of The Bronze which is cool and he looks badass with the crossbow and stake.
Wexina, now that you mention it he's standing almost exactly like Buffy does in the sewer tunnels. There's that pretty iconic shot of Buffy looking back behind her with the crossbow raised. Nice observation, especially with The Master back in play!
[ edited by vampmogs on 2010-09-15 15:25 ]
vampmogs | September 15, 06:23 CET
I recently drew that shot, so it's very ingrained in memory at the moment.
Re: the totem, I asked Allie about it in a recent SlayAlive interview.
Scott Allie: The Scythe has something to do with it, yeah. There won't be time to learn more about the Scythe in S8, although it will be significant to what happens in the remaining issues. The juxtaposition you're refering to is a little more complicated than it appears on the surface—it seems plain as can be, what he's saying there, but you don't know exactly what that's really about yet. It does pull together by the end of the story, though. Boy, that was vague. Sorry.
Going from that, I think Allie was hinting that the Scythe could kill a god, but it's not Buffy. In fact, in hindsight, there is another character other than Buffy (or Angel), whose mortal status has been in question before: Willow. And hey, "ToYL"...
wenxina | September 15, 06:53 CET
Wenxina, it's totally the Prophecy Girl shot! Good eye!
Guestage Drew | September 15, 06:54 CET
goingtowork | September 15, 06:55 CET
At the battle of the Starbucks?
[ edited by anca on 2010-09-15 16:03 ]
anca | September 15, 07:00 CET
Going from that, I think Allie was hinting that the Scythe could kill a god, but it's not Buffy. In fact, in hindsight, there is another character other than Buffy (or Angel), whose mortal status has been in question before: Willow. And hey, "ToYL"...
Ohh! On the S7 DVD Extras Joss talks about that moment in the writing room when he has a "Ohh, that's the thing!" moment. Well, that was the feeling I had when I read your post. That's so brilliant that it kinda made my head spin :)
[ edited by vampmogs on 2010-09-15 16:02 ]
vampmogs | September 15, 07:01 CET
I thought there was going to be 41 issues?
Simon | September 15, 07:02 CET
vampmogs | September 15, 07:06 CET
@Simon: It was probably going to be 41 issues at one point, because they thought that Meltzer's arc was going to be an issue longer. But that didn't happen, so back at 40 issues, excluding one-shots.
wenxina | September 15, 07:07 CET
Simon | September 15, 07:08 CET
wenxina | September 15, 07:14 CET
Buffyfantic | September 15, 07:16 CET
Anyone else NOT PLEASED?
I mean, good narrative, sure, and it'd really give the story gravitas but GILES. DEAD.
*wibble*
Emelye | September 15, 07:29 CET
dorotea | September 15, 07:44 CET
wenxina | September 15, 07:58 CET
Sunfire | September 15, 07:59 CET
I don't think it is established or hinted that the betrayer is going to die?
As for a possibility that Giles is that betrayer, it would not surprise me a bit. That's probably why he is not :)
Lince | September 15, 08:11 CET
On the other hand, I think Giles' death could if anything, be one of the things that finally repair the Buffy/Giles relationship. It's been so fractured and strange for so long, I love Giles, but it'd almost be nice if he made a big sacrifice. And maybe that is precisely the betrayal. A betrayal can also be selfless it just depends on the point of view, i.e. Twilight. It could be as simple as disobeying an order she makes, for her own good.
narky | September 15, 08:45 CET
I think the thing about the Scythe killing Willow is dead-on, and I think despite the Xander and Dawn cover, my bet is still on Willow being the betrayer, given the universe Fray is set in and Willow's being alive and her guilt. She needed Buffy to kill her, and I'm thinking it's a combination of her guilt and (now that you've brought it up) perhaps the Scythe being the only thing that can kill her, perhaps after she uses it once again to do something major... Like banishing all magic and magical creatures from the Earth.
PuppetDoug | September 15, 08:52 CET
I dunno, but 'last great watcher' is so Andrew-ish - it reminds me a lot about the lectures he gave to his squad and it is funnily appropriate, in a sarcastic kind of way. Also Wells and Gates sort of click - Wells being the last name of the famous sci-fi writer as well ( Herbert G.) the creator of War of the Words , if you recall.
dorotea | September 15, 09:21 CET
Or it could be more proof that the comic book takes place well before the events of Chosen.
Simon | September 15, 09:32 CET
Actually, the more I think about it, the more the voice, the font, and the Master thing ends up screaming the First to me. This is now, but they have to go back to the First to retrieve the seed of whatever.
PuppetDoug | September 15, 10:28 CET
Anyway, I'm scared. And it's great!
nyrk | September 15, 11:00 CET
Matt7325 | September 15, 11:31 CET
What if Giles becomes The Master?
Simon | September 15, 11:37 CET
pulzer | September 15, 11:42 CET
goingtowork | September 15, 12:22 CET
Or it could be more proof that the comic book takes place well before the events of Chosen.
Or that it's just the cover and therefore it doesn't matter if it's the old Bronze sign or the new one, as it may not be depicting a canonical scene in the comic itself. Angel is staking Buffy on the trade paperback cover for "Twilight" -- is that an error since it didn't happen in the course of the show/comics? Of course not.
[ edited by Waterkeeper511 on 2010-09-15 21:23 ]
Waterkeeper511 | September 15, 12:23 CET
I'm loving how prominent it appears Giles will be in the finale. I've been underwhelmed after his portrayal and characterization in Twilight as well as his absence from most of the action for a large chunk of the season, so this looks promising. I'm also hoping for payoff on Ethan's involvement and his death in relation to Giles. Yes.
Great observations about how Giles is posting as Buffy did in Prophecy Girl. He's going down into the belly of the beast--is he a sacrifical lamb or will he rise triumphant?
Emmie | September 15, 12:51 CET
dorotea | September 15, 13:02 CET
Depending on how you read Normal Again, that too can be seen as a delusion of the mind, but even then I'd more call it an alternate reality a person can slip into rather than time travel. As for The Wish, I also wouldn't call that time travel, but an alternate reality that displaced the former reality.
Alternate realities =/= traveling into the past or the future.
[ edited by Emmie on 2010-09-15 22:18 ]
Emmie | September 15, 13:09 CET
DaddyCatALSO | September 15, 13:10 CET
'Birthday' had both.
Simon | September 15, 13:20 CET
[ edited by Emmie on 2010-09-15 22:41 ]
Emmie | September 15, 13:40 CET
KingofCretins | September 15, 16:21 CET
I love it. Giles has had far to little to do in season 8, not to mention the last seasons of the show itself. Any panel time with him is always welcome. He better not die though. :(
Kaan | September 15, 19:16 CET
cheryl | September 15, 19:52 CET
wenxina | September 15, 19:52 CET
Fred_Sonja | September 15, 22:37 CET
didifallasleep | September 16, 00:52 CET
Uhm, in reference to the Prophecy Girl pose, remember Giles was the one who was gonna go and kill the Master instead of Buffy? Think this is gonna finish that attempt once and for all?
BlueSkies | September 16, 01:32 CET
nyrk | September 16, 03:27 CET
The part about banishing all the magic, the Fray setup, now immediately pushes my mind toward Merlin and ASH's current character lol. *envisions Uther going "I totally love you!!!!" to Willow if she does banish it, or whoever banishes it* lol
[ edited by GilesQueen on 2010-09-16 15:42 ]
GilesQueen | September 16, 06:40 CET
cazador | September 16, 13:39 CET
wenxina | September 19, 17:48 CET
Simon | September 19, 22:15 CET
wenxina | September 20, 04:40 CET