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October 18 2010

First look at the SHIELD Helicarrier from Joss Whedon's The Avengers. Concept art of Nick Fury's flying fortress. In related news, Walt Disney Studios just bought the rights to distribute The Avengers and Iron Man 3 from Paramount Pictures for $115 million.

Paramount will still distribute next summer's Thor and Captain America:The First Avenger.

I don't know nothing about The Avengers, but it remembers me of the end of Doctor Who series 3 and Space Battleship Yamato.
I don't know nothing about The Avengers...


Well, not yet anyways. Heh. I think we are all going to be learning a lot about The Avengers in the next year and a half. ; )

So... how do you think that heavy looking thing manages to fly with those ultra dinky copter blades?
It's a Chinook on steroids!
BreathesStory, they spin really, really fast. Fast enough to suspend a fortress and disbelief.
The propeller blades are a decoy for would-be attackers, the craft actually runs on Wonderflonium. Thus the Hellicarrier's extensive no bouncing rules.
And so it begins.
I'm afraid I fail to see how that helicarrier design could possibly be played by Priyanka Chopra.
Does the Disney deal carry any implications re creative control (e.g. ensuring Disney-appropriate ratings)?
I'm afraid I fail to see how that helicarrier design could possibly be played by Priyanka Chopra.


Hee. Well, the woman's played a lion, a bull, and a set of scales--all in the same film. So playing an armored proto leviathan might not be too much of a stretch. Although the costume's not up to her usual sexy standards...
Does the Disney deal carry any implications re creative control (e.g. ensuring Disney-appropriate ratings)?

No. Apparently, Disney is going to leave the productions alone in terms of story content and so forth.

Not to mention there have been several movies released under the Disney banner that were PG-13. The "Pirates of the Caribbean" films and "Prince of Persia", for example. Plus Paramount had no say over story or ratings, they just did P&A and distribution.
baxter, Disney now owns Marvel and has since some point last year. This deal means nothing in terms of creative control, but Disney could flex muscles whenever they want on whatever they want. Or they can attempt to not fix what isn't broke. :)
Hmm, looks more like a Miyazaki-designed flying machine than anything...
how do you think that heavy looking thing manages to fly with those ultra dinky copter blades?

The same way any helicopter flies. They're so ugly that the earth rejects them.

Is it just my eyes, or does that thing look like a cross between that dirigible in New Cap City and the Beatle's Yellow Submarine?

[ edited by MissKittysMom on 2010-10-19 04:10 ]
Does the Disney deal carry any implications re creative control (e.g. ensuring Disney-appropriate ratings)?

Mcjw_serenity brought up "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "Prince of Persia", but I think an even better example would be that Disney was the distributor of Miramax Films which they released movies such as violent Pulp Ficiton. There were times that Disney refused to distrubute movies that Miramax made, such as Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 and Kevin Smith's Dogma. Both cases Disney didn't want to distrubute them because of the controversy surrounding the films and sold the distrubution rights to other companies. However, those controversies aside, they didn't get involved with Miramax. I imagine that Disney will have the same hands off approach with Marvel, especially since they have so far proven to be quite successful on their own.
Frankly, Cloudbase from Gerry Anderson's Captain Scarlet TV show in the 1960s looks far sexier and futuristic. This concept design looks like a school bus with propellers.
Doesn't anyone read comic books anymore, these days? ;).

I think this is a pretty convincing SHIELD Helicarrier. It pretty much looks just like it always does in the comics. So as long as the CGI's convincing, I'll be happy.
I don't think there's even any worry about the ratings of The Avengers. I mean, it is a big, summer blockbuster aimed at teenagers/younger peoples. There wont be anything in there that cause alarm for the ratings board or Disney.
Doesn't anyone read comic books anymore, these days? ;)


Nope. Not The Avengers at any rate. I know nothing but what I've read through WHEDONesque myself. Marvel killed any title exploration for me waaay back when they started having every title in their stable crossover with every other title. My paycheck couldn't support it. (It was bad enough trying to keep up with the X-men.)

So, it's cannonically accurate? Well, I wouldn't want them to fall into the trap of redesigning the batsuit/mobile for every new outing, but maybe they could just... think about aeronautics. Just a little. They don't need to show hyper realistic fetish engines or anything.

ETF: early morning brain malfunction

[ edited by BreathesStory on 2010-10-19 12:55 ]
It was bad enough trying to keep up with the X-men


Actually I seem to remember one of these crafts from Joss' run of the X-men. True to the policy of "crossover with every other title" not only Fantastic Four and Spiderman made an appareance, but also SHIELD, if I'm not mistaken.

I also remember worrying about the areonautics, but I decided the propellers were only for stability and manouvering, whereas the lift itself must come from a future-designed so called "thingy" or even a "gadget".
BreathesStory asked, "So, it's cannonically accurate?"

I think there will always be issues with comic book cannon and/or continuity/historical accuracy because most comic books that have had 500+ issues have had plenty of retcons over the years

I mean, how many origins can a character or team have?? How many times can The Punisher be rebooted? How many times can they "reclassify" The Beyonder as a mutant, as an Inhuman, as a Cosmic Cube? Did Spiderman make a deal with the devil in Brand New Day? And was he married to MJ for 25 years or what? Will Han Solo ever shoot first again? (that last one depends on which dvd I pop in the player...but you get my point)

I'd be happy just to see a superhero story told the way it should be by a big purple guy that really knows how to tell superhero stories...Barney. Um, I mean Joss!

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