November 30 2010
Will Hollywood ever cast an openly gay actor as a franchise headliner?
NPH offered as a prime small screen example of why an actor's sexuality shouldn't matter.
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Andy Dufresne | November 30, 18:47 CET
Well, maybe in a few decades. Not now. We're still having trouble getting minority leads in television shows :-\
nuccbko | November 30, 18:58 CET
I remember when Anne Heche (then with Ellen) catching flack for playing Harrison Ford's love interest in Six Days Seven Nights, but I don't know that had anything to do with it's box office receipts or anemic rottentomatoes rating.
fanbuoyant | November 30, 19:13 CET
Jelly | November 30, 19:45 CET
I think Rupert Everett may have a point right now but that's one of those horrible chicken/egg situations - if everyone stays in the closet it'll take longer to change but at the same time, who are we to ask people to risk their careers ? And his Holmes was excellent BTW (although that said, Holmes is only barely heterosexual and anyway, it's not as if gay actors should need to prove they can play straight).
(as an aside BTW, for the first time I understand all the "Is this the gayest Superman yet ?" internet kerfuffle about 'Superman Returns' - previously it hadn't made much sense to me because a) he didn't seem gay when I saw it and b) I didn't know Bryan Singer was gay since clearly that's the actual cause of the question being asked rather than what was on the screen)
Saje | November 30, 20:15 CET
IrrationaliTV | November 30, 20:22 CET
Saje | November 30, 20:26 CET
1. Straight actors are accepting gay roles without much hesitation. They don't worry that if they play a gay character they will be typecast or that the audience will think that they are gay IRL.
2. The public has become accustomed to the idea that many actors are gay and that closeted gay actors have played hetero leads.
3. Some black actors such as Denzel Washington have become A list and are cast in leads and major roles that don't necessarily call for a person of color, and their movies have made money. This suggests that audiences can identify with actors who differ from themselves in major ways.
janef | November 30, 20:32 CET
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/30/straight-jacket.html
and
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/05/12/straight-talk-continued.html
This created a firestorm about whether or not gays could play straight, with the author trying to argue it was not possible. And I am not sure we can make a clear analogy to race v. sexuality, nor that it is about actors who differs from others. And Amber Benson might beg to disagree with you, janef. She spent a lot of time trying to get out from under the character of Tara and the perception she was gay and as a result was not offered jobs.
Dana5140 | November 30, 21:09 CET
And conversely, straight actors shouldn't be taken to task for playing "gay" roles. That is a giant FAIL on the part of filmmakers and television producers (edit - sorry, I mean the notion that gay actors shouldn't be leads in projects where the character happens to be portrayed as straight). Oh, I have an idea, as an experiment, please cast that gorgeous man mentioned in the topic link as Superman and see what happens, because I'm betting if he's talented (the only thing that really matters even though on my other shoulder I am hearing Joss' Equality Now speech being conflated to including gay actors/actors of color included in these bits: Why is this even a question!? ... Because. Equality is not a concept.) no one will give a shit. I tend to believe that most people in this country and the world are not insane bigots with axes to grind.
If only it were true.
[ edited by Tonya J on 2010-11-30 21:30 ]
Tonya J | November 30, 21:30 CET
brinderwalt | November 30, 22:16 CET
jettamesis | December 01, 01:16 CET
dottikin | December 01, 01:47 CET
I'm more sanguine that this is the case than some here, but...
this isn't quite a reality yet. Just a couple/three years ago, Thomas Dekker's reps insisted that the Heroes showrunners make his character straight for fear the original concept of Zach being gay would hurt his chances of getting the role of John Connor.
Vague That Up | December 01, 04:53 CET
napua: I regard your comemnts about Ted as a kind of stereotyping.
Dana5140: You said it better than I could have - mainly because you actually research this stuff whereas I prefer to type thru my hat. Altho I think it was less that amebr lsot roles because *she* was perceived as gay but that casting directors thought audiences would always react to her as having a elsbian persona on-screen. I didn't enjoy Hollowoodland but it made the point about tyepcasting.
DaddyCatALSO | December 02, 22:02 CET