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January 10 2011

From Bonkers to Badass: Whedon darling Summer Glau channels Alias on The Cape. The Cape's creator, Tom Wheeler, said he modeled Summer's character after Alias's Sydney Bristow.

The Cape's creator, Tom Wheeler, said he modeled Summer's character after Alias's Sydney Bristow.


Damn it. One of my fave shows ever is Alias and when looking for new shows, I avoid those that have "if you're a fan of Alias, you're going to like this..." or "you'll be reminded of Alias' Sydney Bristow...". It's just opening up to comparisons and as a crazy ass fan of Alias, everything will fall short.

D:
Particularly 'The Cape' (IMO).

(let's hope it's like the Bizarro 'Alias' which had an excellent pilot then - arguably - tailed off later on whereas 'The Cape' had a pretty poor pilot but is going to become a classic show ?)

Still, turns out David Lyons is an Aussie which lets me praise something on the show - his accent's pretty good.
I was looking forward to watching The Cape and all these confusing reviews confuse me. And then the Sydney Bristow thing crops up and I'm suddenly feeling mighty hesitant to watch it now. It's like with Nikita. I was excited for it because of Maggie Q and then the Alias and Dollhouse comparisons came along and I was all, "You compare it to both Alias and Dollhouse? I'm not going to watch you anymore."

I'll probably watch The Cape after the third ep? IDK. It probably has the case of "don't judge a show with its pilot/first few eps"
Yeah, true, i'm gonna give it another couple for Summer if for no other reason and to me it did improve (slightly) as it went on. You never know I suppose.

To be honest I almost never read reviews before I watch something anyway (mainly because most reviewers seem incapable of writing one without including spoilers) and not only that, half the time when they make these comparisons they're on a pretty superficial level. Whatever the creator's intent for instance, the character Summer plays is nothing like Sydney Bristow IMO (not in the first two eps anyway) beyond adopting disguises (e.g. a wig) and not using her real name on "missions".
To be honest I almost never read reviews before I watch something anyway (mainly because most reviewers seem incapable of writing one without including spoilers) and not only that, half the time when they make these comparisons they're on a pretty superficial level. Whatever the creator's intent for instance, the character Summer plays is nothing like Sydney Bristow IMO (not in the first two eps anyway) beyond adopting disguises (e.g. a wig) and not using her real name on "missions".

It also bears noting that that particular comparison was made by the show's creator based on eight+ episodes worth of growth since that's how far they were into production when this quote was recorded. Hence the inherent spoilery-ness of reviews like this: they tend to feature discussion of a show from a not-just-pilot perspective which usually causes them to either make little sense or be too revealing to regular viewers.
Very true. As people have suggested on the other thread (and it seems pretty plausible, even likely to me),).
Saje, Super Spoiler Alert!:

Btw the promo photos for this show just keep getting more ridiculously awesome.

[ edited by brinderwalt on 2011-01-11 16:39 ]
Aha, fair enough. Yeah that'd be the sort of thing this show might consider a big reveal, maybe saving it for later (and it ties in with ).

'The AV Club' review (with its usual mix of funny and insulting comments) is fairly entertaining. Maybe i'll get to that "so bad it's good" point with the show (or maybe it'll just get better).

(thanks for the flashing alert BTW but that's an advantage of not particularly caring for the show, I can relax where "spoilers" are concerned for 'The Cape' and e.g. look at the promo photos and everything ! Feel the same way about 'Smallville' and it's actually kind of liberating)
Fwiw Tom Wheeler's dream guest star for the show is Jack Black - make of that what you will.


ETA: Another review (from Comics Alliance)that folks may find entertaining.

[ edited by brinderwalt on 2011-01-11 18:49 ]
My favorite moment of the two episodes was when Orwell just sort of ran in and "kidnapped" the chicken. Now, THAT was funny. It was so simple and such an obvious solution to the whole crises in the midst of all the purple drama.

ETR a volunteer 'd'

[ edited by BreathesStory on 2011-01-12 04:47 ]
The point, though, remains: The Cape is genuinely, truly atrocious. There’s no way you can watch this and walk away saying, “Well, hey, I have my new favorite TV show.”


Somehow, this has managed to convince me to give this show a shot, like, RFN.
It may sound like a challenge csi_spy but I suspect (assuming you're not a 10 year old boy) that it's just a statement of fact ;).

Liked the chicken bit too BTW (even if it did remind me how underused the excellent Richard Schiff was). And that Comics Alliance review was a good read (and pretty close to how I feel) but i've seen that "Hey, at least it's sincere" defence a few times now and to be honest, it doesn't fly for me. Taking super-heroes seriously is fine by me but if you do it badly it's still badly done, however fresh the tone (and even then, it's only fresh for TV - ignoring 'The Flash' from 20 years ago - since in comics that's just how super-heroes are treated as a matter of course).
RE: Richard Schiff

He did lend a certain enjoyable gravitas to the whole mess. I'm not sure that's the way the show should go though, given what they've got to work with. Unfortunately, I don't think the creator does either. It was a bit schizophrenic.

Well, who knows maybe he'll show up again. Schiff did get to have the "Let's introduce Commissioner Gorden" moment on the checklist script they followed. Of course, that's assuming it doesn't get canceled or that anybody's even still watching it... If a Richard Schiff acts in a show and nobody's watching, does he make a difference?
Well, one man can make a difference, I learned that from... THE CAPE ! And 'Knightrider' (where the line appeared over 20 years ago). Mainly 'Knightrider' if i'm honest. The stuff I learned from 'The Cape' was more along the lines of "TV screens are tougher than they look (but still, maybe don't throw a book at it again)" and "That's about 90 minutes i'm never getting back, luckily i'm immortal (so far)" and "Summer Glau is absurdly attractive and can drive in quite high heels, which to me looks awkward even though i've never tried it" (OK, I already knew the first part of that one).

(and if you listen to some of his scenes carefully you get the answer to that other philosophy classic - what is the sound of one actor acting ?)
A soliloquy.

Summer did not drive in high heels. She did the sexy slip off with her toes off screen. I'm sorry they cut out the close up, but I think her feet were upstaging the plot. And the dialog. I believe they are saving that scene for the DVD extras. (They needed come up with some reason to encourage people to shell out future cash.)

ETA: more

[ edited by BreathesStory on 2011-01-12 16:00 ]
Summer and Richard Schiff's scenes were the only enjoyable parts of the entire pilot for me. I would actually pay attention when they were onscreen. The rest of the time? I was texting, checking email, plotting to take over the world... Ya know, the usual silly distractions.

I'm gonna give it a few more eps (if the network deems it "worthy", that is) and hope it improves. But if not, I'll be less than heartbroken.

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