"And now, I'm just a *big* fluffy puppy with bad teeth. No! Not the hair! Never the hair."
June 08
2011
Watch the new Joss Whedon PSA Video for "Equality Now".
This video will be shown in the Can't Stop the Serenity screenings in 2011.
ETA: The video has now been set to private.
Numfar PTB
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NYPinTA | June 08, 18:28 CET
lets make some noise!
Kayley | June 08, 18:29 CET
@theonetruebix | June 08, 18:30 CET
And I downright love my fandom.
mockingbird | June 08, 18:47 CET
will.bueche | June 08, 19:04 CET
Off topic: he looks so thin! What happened?
TawnyJayne | June 08, 19:06 CET
cardea | June 08, 19:30 CET
I don't know what it is, but it must be in the air in here, because there's something in my eye, too.
That was so very JossTM.
Reminder that this year's L.A. CSTS event, which he and Equality Now & other folks are attending, will be live-streamed on ComiCenter Live.
So you'all can watch Joss watch himself. Which is weird.
QuoterGal | June 08, 20:00 CET
That being said. This video is typical Joss. The level at which this man works/thinks/acts/writes is nothing short of inspiring and amazing. I think I'll find a way to make some noise next year, since he said we should.
danregal | June 08, 20:48 CET
IrrationaliTV | June 08, 20:56 CET
Speaking of not being able to hear it all, what did he actually say when he "quoted" Mal? I gather he was having some fun with "I aim to misbehave," but I couldn't quite make out the words he used. I don't know if that's just the sound quality on my computer, or if he was just very very quiet. Thanks.
XanMan | June 08, 22:13 CET
(and talk about inspiring, imagine if he ever used his powers for evil ? Nah, I can't either)
((and the Mal "quote" was "It is my target to have the ill behaviours"))
[ edited by Saje on 2011-06-09 07:19 ]
Saje | June 08, 22:18 CET
XanMan | June 08, 22:44 CET
In fact, I dunno if it's final and has been sent out or made available to the various CSTS groups yet, but if it's not too late to boost them at the source copy, I'd do it, or at least give a heads-up to everyone to be at the ready to check the sound before they run it at the events...
QuoterGal | June 08, 23:06 CET
The weird part is that I literally accidentally stumbled to the video. I was trying to tweak some settings from the Youtube app from my Android cell phone, and boom, it was there. Thought it was supposed to be an old video, until I watched it and saw the upload date of the video and the number of views. It was just shining brightly (yes, pun intended) when I clicked the app.
Guess whoever from Equality now who uploaded it, forgot to set the upload for it to be private, as this setting can be changed afterwards.
Numfar PTB | June 09, 00:55 CET
Lioness | June 09, 04:36 CET
I have to say that I'm happy this isn't private (thrilled that I could see it), I think it is thrilling to contemplate the big noise next year, and I think it makes a great advertising for trying to get to your local CSTS THIS year! I found this listing for up-coming events, none in Iowa, but maybe I can get to Chicago.
embers | June 09, 04:53 CET
That's why the link has been removed for the time being.
Simon | June 09, 04:55 CET
@theonetruebix | June 09, 05:49 CET
Simon | June 09, 06:03 CET
(the sound was actually OK throughout for me so i'm now wondering if there's something up with my gear. The alternative is that those latent superpowers i've been wishing for have finally turned up. Which is also possible)
Saje | June 09, 06:22 CET
[ edited by Pointy on 2011-06-09 15:56 ]
Pointy | June 09, 06:52 CET
Nebula1400 | June 09, 06:57 CET
@theonetruebix | June 09, 07:03 CET
BreathesStory | June 09, 07:06 CET
Sunfire | June 09, 07:39 CET
1. Go to a Can't Stop the Serenity screening. It's part of a super cool DVD every screening will be receiving to show attendees.
2. Watch the CSTS Los Angeles event LIVE on June 25th. We're working out the details, but we expect to show at least the Joss portion of the DVD during the broadcast.
C. This isn't sooner, but expect it to be made public on the link above around September, when the CSTS season is over.
danregal | June 09, 07:49 CET
Shapenew | June 09, 08:24 CET
Simon | June 09, 08:51 CET
BreathesStory | June 09, 09:24 CET
Giles_314 | June 09, 09:33 CET
And I think I'm gonna miss my local CSTS. Again. It's always bad timing. Ah well. Guess I'll see the video eventually.
guidedby | June 09, 10:36 CET
Tonya J | June 09, 10:52 CET
yamsham | June 09, 11:26 CET
@theonetruebix | June 09, 11:43 CET
Sunfire | June 09, 11:59 CET
sumogrip | June 09, 12:11 CET
If you can make it to a CSTS event, I really recommend it. It's awesome fun and an awesome fundraiser.
If you can't, there's still time to organise one! It doesn't need to be a full blown screening, as there are lots of options this year for running affiliate events - which is pretty much anything you can think of. Events can be run all the way through to September, so there's lots of time to pull something fun together. This year, we've even got one fantastic group in Beeston, UK who are holding an Affiliate event as part of their wedding, using the after-party as an excuse to celebrate and support CSTS and EN! You can get all the info at http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com/events/
Also, I'm reliably informed (thanks Doctor!) that the 2011 events went really well, raised well over our target of $150,000 and that the video was full blown awesome. And that I had a great time at the Melbourne event in August (which launches tonight!!!) :D
And for those who want a recap...
Joss took time out of filming The Avengers, and stood in front of lots of shiny equipment. He said wonderful, moving, witty, hilarious and inspiring things, challenging folks watching to do more, and to make a big noise. And me made me wish CSTS was right here right now.
[ edited by JenskiJen on 2011-06-09 21:47 ]
JenskiJen | June 09, 12:43 CET
Future me says it was awesome and there were puppies. I haven't seen it so I don't know if she's lying. No one's late to the party, it just hasn't happened yet.
But I brought dip !
And Future Sunfire is at least half not lying so you can at least half trust her (unlike future me - what is he wearing ? Still, confirmation that even in the future, horizontal stripes aren't flattering. Good intel that).
Saje | June 09, 13:09 CET
Also, future me says that DrHSAB2 was awesome. And that John Barrowman killed as Johnny Snow.
NYPinTA | June 09, 13:59 CET
@theonetruebix | June 09, 14:12 CET
Joss was talking about the importance of Equality Now and how he wants to do a lot more to promote it and raise money for it next year (in 2012). I assume that the decision to make this message 'private' is to offer something exclusive and exciting at CSTS, but if the goal is to remind people of the importance of Equality Now then suppressing the video does nothing to further that goal.
Shouldn't it really be about Equality Now? Shouldn't the video (at least Joss' portion of it) be available online along with a link to remind everyone that they don't have to wait, they can support Equality NOW.
[ edited by embers on 2011-06-10 00:24 ]
embers | June 09, 15:23 CET
NYPinTA | June 09, 15:35 CET
Again, it was always intended to be for CSTS events first, then public later. That's the same as Joss' prior introduction. It's not something that got posted and then CSTS went "hey, wait, take that down and let us use it first". It was always for CSTS events first.
[ edited by The One True b!X on 2011-06-10 00:52 ]
@theonetruebix | June 09, 15:51 CET
Sunfire | June 09, 15:56 CET
@theonetruebix | June 09, 16:01 CET
But then one of the primary purposes of this message is to thank the Browncoats who've raised half a million dollars for Equality Now and to inspire this group to continue giving for this cause. It's clearly a targeted message for a specific audience so it makes sense to save that message for them.
[ edited by Emmie on 2011-06-10 03:07 ]
Emmie | June 09, 17:33 CET
embers | June 09, 17:39 CET
JenskiJen | June 09, 18:36 CET
Emmie | June 09, 19:35 CET
Is anyone here confused about the message of equality? All the discussion of the video and the fact that it wasn't supposed to be up yet themselves are drawing attention to the cause. So, I really am confused at the claimed critique.
[ edited by The One True b!X on 2011-06-10 05:00 ]
@theonetruebix | June 09, 19:53 CET
It's not vacant to point out that there's an inherent contradiction between the practical application of the call to activism being delayed and the emphatic philosophical stance that we need equality now without delay. If one were truly treating equality as needed now, then any and all messages could not afford the wait. Noting the tension between the espoused philosophy and the practical reality is acknowleding that our world works in less than perfect ways -- that philanthropic organizations feel they must couch and frame such essential arguments as deliverable only at the "right" time (see: not now, but later) in order for them to motivate and inspire the privileged to action runs counter to the emotional power and philosophical spirit of their mission statement.
Instead of needing equality now, it's more like what Joss said: we need equality kinda now. There's a world of difference between the two. Noting this difference isn't vacant. I'd rather not pretend it doesn't exist; ignoring it makes it harder to overcome.
We don't need equality tomorrow, next week, or next month. We need it now. That's the message -- and the PR action here unfortunately undercuts this philosophy in a visible way. Mysterious buzz of an exclusive private message is not equality, it's privilege. What's more, the suggestion that an exclusive buzz will profit the movement frames seeking equality as a privileged act when it is a basic necessity of human existence. There is a long history of the privileged being approached at the "right" time to help those in need, to help those later who need help now -- this is what Equality Now is fighting to change, but fighting a battle against privilege by perpetuating privilege is problematic and counterproductive.
It's tragic to me that even a call for action now must be delayed in order to achieve its greatest success. Our world isn't perfect and while some of us possess enough privilege that we can afford to wait, sadly there are many who cannot. Even as I understand Equality Now's practical compromise as necessary to negotiate within privileged power structures to benefit those in need, my greatest sympathies lie with the people who need equality now.
[ edited by Emmie on 2011-06-10 06:39 ]
Emmie | June 09, 21:06 CET
It's a cockup.
I've seen too many fan attempts fall flat on their face due to poor timing.I would imagine that this message is part of an overall fan strategy to rally the troops and then get wider attention. To release it now and let it be standalone may more than likely achieve very little in the long run.
Simon | June 09, 21:49 CET
Fan attempts for what? Charity? I think that's just called human attempts now. ;-)
Emmie | June 09, 22:05 CET
Simon | June 09, 22:08 CET
I kinda get the point but I don't think it's got too much merit personally - the video wasn't intended to be seen (by anyone) yet, it accidentally got out, now they've fixed the accident. If a film/book/record promoting "Equality Now" but with a Halloween theme was accidentally leaked in July then removed because no-one was meant to see it until October it doesn't seem to be about exclusivity to me, just timing.
Would more people be inspired and so do good in the intervening time ? Maybe, maybe not (it's hard to know who might attend CSTS events that wouldn't see the video for some reason and arguably a single big splash creates more ripples), either way it's been removed with pure intentions, it's a directed thank-you message with broader appeal (which everyone is going to get to see in 2-3 months anyway). No biggie.
Saje | June 09, 22:24 CET
From what I can tell, this isn't a fan mistake. The upload was done by Equality Now. It's on the same account as Meryl Streep's PSAs for the organization, is listed as a nonprofit, and includes a link to equalitynow.org.
This is a great organization that I've supported for years now. That doesn't mean it's not important to discuss how the battle for equality is problematized by mistaken actions that promote a perception of privatization and delay a sense of urgency.
And respectfully, Saje, critical thought about how our privilege problematizes our pursuit for equality is never without merit. Dismissing the opportunity to check and reconsider our privilege merely reinforces our privilege -- that goes against the spirit of needing equality now. Raising awareness is the goal with this message; critical thought is where activism begins.
[ edited by Emmie on 2011-06-10 07:42 ]
Emmie | June 09, 22:41 CET
That is partly why I say this is a vacant argument. Those who saw it understand. Those who didn't are just going to have to see for themselves when the time comes. No urgency is lost by sticking to the original release plan because it is not a message of immediate urgency.
And, frankly, and speaking solely for myself, to suggest that Equality Now would somehow subvert a sense of urgency... well, I find it difficult not to find that insulting, if not offensive.
[ edited by The One True b!X on 2011-06-10 07:53 ]
@theonetruebix | June 09, 22:51 CET
Critical discussion of how actions may mistakenly promote the exact opposite of an organization's express purpose is not an attack. That you're framing my intellectual critique and examination as an attack is a gross miscalculation. This isn't a fight, I'm not attacking EN. Further, it's self-evident that examining how to check privilege is necessary to promoting equality; raising awareness and encouraging critical thought is not the enemy of activism.
Again, I'll reiterate that a mistake was made, I understand and support EN's response, however, it's worth noting and discussing how there are consequences from this mistake that ironically promote a perception opposite of the organization's goal true goal and that in the case of philanthropy framed upon an urgency for now, it reaches a level of painful irony and carries the potential for tragedy considering the content of the message.
The aid directed towards helping oppressed women throughout the world today isn't something you want to wait for the "right" time. There's a reason the slogan says now. There are women who can be aided in their suffering now (sex trafficking and genital mutiliation) and it's tragic to me to think people aren't going to be asked to help until later.
I hope others also felt moved to donate money to the cause if they had the privilege of viewing this message last night. I was moved by both Joss' message and the joint contributions of everyone up to this point.
[ edited by Emmie on 2011-06-10 08:23 ]
Emmie | June 09, 23:13 CET
It is an impassioned call and it contains some of the best stuff Joss has ever said but it's an impassioned call which seems to be part of a wider plan. And from what I can see this plan isn't in place yet. It's like releasing a official campaign video when the candidate hasn't even said they are running. There doesn't seem to be any mechanisms up and running to support what Joss is talking about for next year.
There is some short term gain from this video being released now but ultimately I think it will be more effective for Equality Now several months down the line.
Simon | June 10, 00:27 CET
("Let's make a noise !" *crickets... months pass... slightly bemused "noise"*)
And respectfully, Saje, critical thought about how our privilege problematizes our pursuit for equality is never without merit.
I don't mean critical thought when I say "I don't think it's got too much merit" Emmie (being rationally sceptical of/examining pretty much everything is fine with me, if you have the energy for it, though I also think sometimes a cigar is just a cigar) I mean the specific point that not releasing the video now is going to have an actual quantifiable deleterious effect on the goal Equality Now is pursuing (I don't think it will).
It is slightly ironic (given the org's name etc.) but in the "Oh, that's a bit ironic *continues with day*" sense, not in the "Ha, those hypocrites say we need equality NOW and yet they save their big guns until later, we should never support them or their goals ever again !" sort of way.
Saje | June 10, 01:22 CET
Shapenew | June 10, 03:52 CET
gossi | June 10, 06:53 CET
Like this!
Sunfire | June 10, 07:46 CET
Wot he said.
Oh, and I swallowed a bug, too, gossi. Must be going around. It made my eyes roll back in my head. I hope they don't get stuck that way.
Say, we could take all this energy and maybe start a charity or effort to link the 'Verse with Equality Now, and raise some money for them and work on that right now!
What, you say we're in the midst of doing that at this exact moment, and there's room for all? That's amazing!
I wonder where I could sign up to help.
ETF: fun with vowels.
[ edited by QuoterGal on 2011-06-11 06:19 ]
QuoterGal | June 10, 10:21 CET