June 14 2011
(SPOILER)
Top ten reasons to look forward to Buffy Season 9.
Courtesy of Scott Allie at Dark Horse (and there's a panel from Angel & Faith #1 as well).
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Jaymii | June 14, 08:41 CET
Most intrigued about #8 and #3, though I guess in terms of actual story concerns, #4 is a BFD, so I'll add that to the list too. :)
wenxina | June 14, 08:55 CET
Craig Oxbrow | June 14, 08:57 CET
faith in Angel | June 14, 09:14 CET
buffyfest | June 14, 09:33 CET
Sniff to #6
Boo to #1 but understandable for now.
[ edited by Buffyfantic on 2011-06-14 18:37 ]
Buffyfantic | June 14, 09:34 CET
Jossfan_21 | June 14, 09:58 CET
Sunfire | June 14, 10:00 CET
Brierly | June 14, 10:15 CET
Sunfire | June 14, 10:25 CET
"5. Longstanding debts come due..."
Er, how much money did they steal? It's too bad they can't just auction off some bonds--it seems to work so well.
*A double-headed axe. It's my new personal vocab word of the day.
BreathesStory | June 14, 10:36 CET
zeitgeist | June 14, 11:44 CET
Alex_Jamieson | June 14, 12:11 CET
Enisy | June 14, 12:36 CET
Awesome!
Arkham258 | June 14, 12:56 CET
hence | June 14, 13:00 CET
redeem147 | June 14, 13:48 CET
#13 "suddenly, you're back in your 'helping the helpless' clothes and ready to kick some demon ass". It's a real burn being right so often.
KingofCretins | June 14, 13:53 CET
Alright, now I have complained enough. It better be awesome!
hence | June 14, 15:45 CET
Kaan | June 14, 17:04 CET
racheltng | June 14, 17:06 CET
http://www.comicshoplocator.com/
IrrationaliTV | June 14, 17:33 CET
project bitsy | June 14, 17:36 CET
@theonetruebix | June 14, 18:17 CET
Also once again DH's snarky tone fails to get me laughing...
sueworld2003 | June 14, 22:59 CET
IrrationaliTV | June 14, 23:03 CET
This is a job for them rather then a hobby after all.
[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2011-06-15 08:22 ]
sueworld2003 | June 14, 23:21 CET
IrrationaliTV | June 15, 00:49 CET
IrrationaliTV, if you were shown an LA setting with a red telephone box and a double decker bus in it, wouldn't you find it irritating and annoying? It's that level of mistake to draw that frame and pretend it has anything to do with Britain.
Gill | June 15, 01:03 CET
IrrationaliTV | June 15, 01:13 CET
I mean from this panel the place looks like a combination of oldie worldy London and somewhere in the states. :0
I believe that this is meant to be set in England though isn't it?
And 'Irrational' try and turn it down a wee bit will you. :)
[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2011-06-15 10:21 ]
sueworld2003 | June 15, 01:17 CET
Don't provoke. If you have problems with other posters do drop me a line.
Simon | June 15, 01:22 CET
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IrrationaliTV | June 15, 01:22 CET
Simon | June 15, 01:22 CET
DH ask folks to part with good money for this, and so I don't think It's unreasonable to expect them to try their best at getting certain basics right, and If you set this in the UK (which we've been told it is by the way) then I'd hope we'd see better.
And yes, I am only talking about the fire hydrants here.
[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2011-06-15 10:29 ]
sueworld2003 | June 15, 01:27 CET
silvius | June 15, 01:47 CET
HappyMeal | June 15, 01:58 CET
I really disagree. I’ve been on many London streets that look just like that (I can think of a few alleys just off Oxford Street, for a start) and I see no problem with it. The worst you could criticise them for is a fire hydrant but, seriously, it’s a fire hydrant, so...
The actual street is easily passable as London. London still has plenty of streets with cobbles, it has plenty of shops with roller shutter doors, and the rest is just made up of indiscriminate buildings that don’t even have enough detail to be criticised as incorrect. The fire hydrant is a mistake but I can’t fathom how something so small and insignificant could possibly upset anyone, so if that’s the biggest concern with Issac’s art then I’d say she’s doing great.
vampmogs | June 15, 02:06 CET
On the plus side the artwork style does look fairly pretty so far.
[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2011-06-15 11:29 ]
sueworld2003 | June 15, 02:09 CET
And the genre, be it comics or fantasy/supernatural, is no excuse for sloppy research - just check out Don Rosa's Scrooge McDuck story The Quest for Kalevala and the parts set in Helsinki for how it's done.
ruuger | June 15, 02:39 CET
We've already seen that page from Angel & Faith which seemed pretty modern. So I don't think we have to worry about everything being cobblestones and bowler hats.
As for georgaphical inaccuarcies an itty bitty fire hydrant seems a little too minor to start getting worked up about. Hopefully if there are any inaccuries they're minor. I guess I can understand being annoyed about that sort a thing. I mean if they did an issue set in Australia and had the Scoobies running about in the middle of a desert, with kangaroos and khakis I think I'd wanna hit someone. But it's seems like it's gonna be minor stuff if any, so stress less guys.
Nathan | June 15, 02:51 CET
gossi | June 15, 03:01 CET
Odd you should say that, as it looks nothing like a London street to me. It's more what someone who had never actually seen one except in set bound old movies might imagine a London street would look like. The fire hydrants are a big mistake, obviously. We don't have fire hydrants in the UK. But those apart, you would never get a London street without street markings, or parked cars. It just looks like Comic Book Ye Olde London to me.
But season 8 made it clear that's pretty par for the course. We got Comic Book Ye Olde Scotland in that, and Comic Book Ye Olde Germany too.
And of course Dark Horse isn't the only comics company that routinely get this stuff wrong, but it does make me wonder if any of the artists involved know how to use a search engine.
deborahmm | June 15, 03:21 CET
If it were just this one time, I would give them the benefit of a doubt, but as it is the artists and writers simply come across as lazy and ignorant for not bothering with even the slightest amount of research.
ruuger | June 15, 03:41 CET
BreathesStory | June 15, 04:08 CET
sueworld2003 | June 15, 04:11 CET
I completely disagree. It looks exactly like the side alleys off places such as Oxford Street, and none of them have cars on them either. They're just cobbled streets lined with stores and are easily as wide as the street Angel/Faith are walking down. I've walked down plenty of streets that pretty much look identical to this.
vampmogs | June 15, 04:16 CET
[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2011-06-15 13:31 ]
sueworld2003 | June 15, 04:19 CET
And as for that not looking like a London street - I've just got back from London. Where there were streets. Like that.
gossi | June 15, 04:19 CET
This is more like what I see when walking in town....
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-303807/stock-photo-empty-backstreet-in-soho-london-uk.html
[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2011-06-15 13:27 ]
sueworld2003 | June 15, 04:24 CET
silvius | June 15, 04:33 CET
...Although, a full season of that would mean she's probably an alcoholic. Less funny. Okay, I'll just say I'm glad that's on the list and leave it at that.
Kairos | June 15, 04:37 CET
sueworld2003 | June 15, 04:39 CET
Never seen a fire hydrant in the UK, not saying they don't exist just that that'd be a new one on me. The ones we have are under rectangular mini-manhole style things about 5 x 6 inches, flush with the pavement and are marked with an 'H' post - when I was a kid my Dad hilariously told me that was where people from the water board were buried and for years afterwards i'd jump over the bit of pavement near an 'H' marker. Cheers Dad, lucky I wasn't affect;\ojkhgiu\hsgpuhted.
Aside from that, the bin in the foreground (if it is a bin) looks the right shape, the railings look right, the streets/shops etc. could be one of the alleys off the main drag in London. Not sure about the sign though, the only octagonal street signs I can think of are 'Stop' signs and that one would be in the wrong place. It's off but not by a million miles, particularly if you grant a bit of artistic licence (and either way, it doesn't bother me at all). So long as there's no-one selling cockles an' mussels and they don't get invited to a roight ol' knees up (where barrels are being rolled out willy nilly) I can deal.
ETA: We got Comic Book Ye Olde Scotland in that, and Comic Book Ye Olde Germany too.
Scotland still had bloody wolves (at least as far as Xander was concerned). Still didn't bother me (he was only off by 300 years or so ;).
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Saje | June 15, 04:46 CET
Conclusion: It was my brain. As usual.
It strikes me that if I ever make a comic that is set in a real city that I'm not in, it would be a good idea to have a research contact who is willing to answer questions and take pictures of fire hydrants for me...
BreathesStory | June 15, 04:51 CET
sueworld2003 | June 15, 04:52 CET
Season 8's location shots were pretty poor in places and that's not on the artist as much as the write who assumes these things about these countries (Scotland & Germany, I'm looking at you here), but there is only one way to judge the content of the book, and that's wait till we get the book. And inevitably we will get annoyed by fire hydrants and red phone boxes, but we'll probably cope.
Sparticus | June 15, 04:53 CET
Sparticus | June 15, 04:56 CET
Dang, I was all intrigued when I saw "31 new comments", and it's all about this worn out and, from where I stand, entirely unreasonable complaint that pops up pretty much every time a Buffyverse story steps outside the contiguous United States.
KingofCretins | June 15, 05:01 CET
Simon | June 15, 05:02 CET
Number 3's up there for me, Buffy's a funny drunk. Well, SMG is.
Saje | June 15, 05:10 CET
KingofCretins | June 15, 05:14 CET
True though, Willow's pretty icony herself, guess Buffy getting drunk just stands out in my memory more.
Saje | June 15, 05:25 CET
Sorry but that cracked me up something wonderful.
Matt7325 | June 15, 06:18 CET
1. More Buffy.
2. Angel and Faith and redemption, there's a lot to mine there.
3. Andrew Chambliss writing. I'm psyched for that.
4. Jeanty is back! I really like his work so far.
5. What happens when magic is gone? I'm intrigued.
Sunfire | June 15, 06:29 CET
wenxina | June 15, 06:55 CET
Jaymii | June 15, 10:10 CET