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July 01 2011

Serenity voted one of the "top 50 greatest sci-fi movies ever". It came in at no. 44 on Total Film's list.

I think I'd go Top 10 but maybe I'm biased. Watching it for the first time in a theater with Jewel Staite will do that.

[ edited by MrArg on 2011-07-01 16:26 ]
This list sux. The fact that more people voted for Idependance Day, Minority Report, Starship Troopers (which I did like), AI and many others as their favorite sci fi films OVER Serenity, says more about today's movie goers than the relative quality of each movie... I guess in a society where Ke$ha is a chart topping "musician" (using that term very loosely), I shouldn't be surprised.
It absolutely does not belong that far down the list. But how did the usual Whedonverse hordes not vote the bejesus out of this thing?
Presumably it didn't register on anyone's radar. But I prefer it that way, it's nice to see that the movie can do well without mass block voting.
Hey, Penthos, no need to diss my girl, Ke$ha! She blows my speakers up.
The list is painfully out of order, but, realistically, Serenity is probably about where it should be.

Nothing wrong with Ke$ha.
By the way, does Avengers count as Sci Fi? If so, all these films are gonna have to move down one when it comes out.

Nuff said.
That seems a fair indication of where general film fans would put 'Serenity' without us stuffing the ballot. I'd put it higher myself but even being in the top 50 of all time's no small achievement.

As to the rest, not clicking through the entire list but the top 10 at least seem fairly sensible (though, as you'd expect, pretty populist). Bit reticent to put 'Inception' in there quite yet though - much as I enjoyed it a year's not really long enough to judge classic status I don't think.

(and in other news, Javier Bardem is going to play the shit out of Roland Deschain, good news, bodes well)
Solaris. Ugghh.
I would definitely put it somewhere in the Top 25 instead. I lost count of the films I would rank lower as I moved up from Serenity and then got irked and quit somewhere around 25. Tron? Tron?!? Only here because the sequel just came out.
Solaris. Double ugghh.
Triple ugghh. And Tron ugghh.
Two Joss posts from March 12, 2007: What is the best Sci-fi movie ever? I just have to see these again. Serenity is mentioned:

1) Okay, the ass-munching tacked-on ending aside, don't be messing with "The Core". Me and mine have watched that one a few times. End of the world, center of the earth, Tucci's rug -- this is good times.

joss | March 13, 01:45 CET

2) Interesting. (IF you're a huge geek, and guess what?)

Starship Troopers: probably evil, but the best war movie of the decade, plus of course Neal. And time now for a shout-out to DINA MEYER -- she gave an actually compelling human performance in that film (as she did in Johnny Mnemonic AND Point pleasant) and raised it above sheer parody. Underrated gal.

Day the Earth Stood Still: Am I the only one who thought that movie had a completely fascistic message? "Behave or we'll kill you?" It's CREEPY. Klaatu Barada No-thanks.

Event Horizon: Yet another believer. Nice. You know they have an awesome funky special edition box in England. Yeah, I picked one up...

Serenity: Nice film. No, kick-ass. Honestly, shouldn't be on the list.

Lifeforce: I love the structure of that film. you really never know what movie you're in, who the hero is... it's daring and histrionic and kind of spellbinding. And dear Ms May...

2001: A seminal work, very important. Doesn't make sense of any kind and never will no matter how many times people explain the book or use 'film theory' to explain it. It's like a great poem: it makes you feel something you can't put into words. But seriously, what the where now?

The Core: Yeah, you can laugh, but then you don't get to be on board with my small crew who are plunging into the center of the earth, so hope it's a good long laugh.

Tuck Everlasting: never saw it.

joss | March 13, 07:33 CET

HEY! I like Tron!

Okay, not top 50 anything besides maybe 'Top 50 Based-On-Really-Old-Standup-Game-Console Movies,' but it was alright. ;)
I second the Tron love. :) It's on my short list of films I am compelled to watch whenever it's on - along with The Beast Master, 2001, and Hello, Dolly! for some reason...

What I want to know is why Flash Gordon made the list. I agree it's fun and all, but... I can only think that the Queen soundtrack resonating in the minds of millions of sports fans, pushed it over the edge.

And apparently I've seen 37/50. Got to work on that.


For those who didn't waste their time clicking through the list on that excruciatingly slow website, (Kudos, BTW. Sometimes stubbornness is self-annoying.), here's the whole Top 50 List:

50. Barbarella (1968)
49. Primer (2004)
48. Flash Gordon (1980)
47. The Man Who Fell to Earth (1976)
46. AI: Artificial Intelligence (2001)
45. Godzilla (1954)
44. Serenity (2005)
43. Forbidden Planet (1956)
42. THX 1138 (1971)
41. Tron (1982)
40. Independence Day (1996)
39. Moon (2009)
38. Total Recall (1990)
39. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
36. The Fly (1986)
35. Akira (1988)
34. Starship Troopers (1997)
33. District 9 (2009)
32. Solaris (1972)
31. Dark Star (1974)
30. Brasil (1985)
29. Predator (1987)
28. Twelve Monkeys (1995)
27. Mad Max 2 (1981)
26. Metropolis (1927)
25. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
24. Minority Report (2002)
23. Robocop (1987)
22. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
21. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
20. WALL*E (2008)
19. Jurassic Park (1993)
18. Planet of the Apes (1968)
17. Star Trek (2009)
16. The Thing (1982)
15. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)
14. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1997)
13. Donnie Darko (2001)
12. Back to the Future (1985)
11. Avatar (2009)
10. The Terminator (1984)
9. The Matrix (1999)
8. Inception (2010)
7. Aliens (1986)
6. E.T.: the Extra-terrestrial (1982)
5. Star Wars:Episode IV - A New Hope (1977)
4. Alien (1979)
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
2. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
1. Blade Runner (1982)
What a joke of a list! So many godawful film on it, with the occasional nice surprise like SOLARIS.

The biggest omission is CHILDREN OF MEN. Where in the frak is it? I'd put it in the top 15. And no THEM!? One of the classics of the fiftes.

INCEPTION shouldn't be on the list at all, let alone in the Top Ten. I think that will be corrected by time.

INDEPENDENCE DAY is on my official list of the ten worst movies I've ever seen. It pains me as a BSG fan that Mary McDonnell is in it.
I'm in the "'Solaris' is dull and a bit pretentious" camp personally (one of those rare occasions when the remake's actually more watchable) but I realise it's a "great" sci-fi film so tends to turn up on these lists a lot.

What I want to know is why Flash Gordon made the list. I agree it's fun and all, but... I can only think that the Queen soundtrack resonating in the minds of millions of sports fans, pushed it over the edge.

I think 'Total Film' is a UK based magazine ? In which case trust me, sports have nothing to do with it (the percentage of Brits that have any idea Sam Jones was an American football player would be pretty low i'd imagine, the percentage who care even lower). It's all about the soundtrack, Brian Blessed "Diiiiiiivvvvvve!"ing, "Freeze you bloody bastards!" and just the general campy fun of it. Among the greatest of all time ? Not IMO but that's what happens when you have an open vote - people vote for the films they like regardless of any notions of greatness.

"... ahhhhhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh !" ;)
By the way, does Avengers count as Sci Fi?

I'm sure comic-book movies don't count. No Batman.

Thank you BreathesStory for the list; I would never have clicked through all that. Think of it as your generosity of spirit, not your stubbornness. :)

Of course I would put Serenity much higher, and I'm also surprised that Children of Men isn't on there, but mostly I'm surprised that I've seen all but four of them (those four including Solaris and Flash Gordon--must have magically heard you guys complaining about them). The others are Primer and The Thing. Are those good? The Thing is pretty high on the list!
The Thing is quite good and certainly belongs high on the list. Both versions were good, but I would go with the 1982 Carpenter version presented on the list.

Primer and Moon are the only two I hadn't heard of and they sound interesting enough. There are a couple older ones that I have heard of but not seen, mainly due to black/white aversion.

By the way, I don't know if this is urban myth or not, but I've heard that U.S. scientists stationed at the South Pole have an annual movie night celebration where they watch The Thing (and occasionally recite scenes Rocky Horror style).

[ edited by lottalettuce on 2011-07-04 21:13 ]
I honestly don't get love for Primer. Felt like chewing my own arm off while sitting through the thing to give it a chance. I'm not saying the filmmakers are untalented, but if ever there were a genre film I didn't connect with, on any level, it's that.

I love seeing A.I. on the list. Best film with one of the worst endings ever, per Spielberg's usual. Minority Report which I also love, same issue.
Primer was cool. It does take some patience but it's quite a feat to juggle both sides of the brain like that. Worth the watch, I think. You won't know what the hell is going on though, but that is ok.

Moon is fantastic. One of the best films I've seen in recent memory. Really fantastic.

There are a few movies that have NO business being on the list, like others said, Inception and Independence Day to name a few. The rest are just ridiculously out of order.
'Primer' was quite a surprise, given how populist the list is in general. Pretty decent IMO, hard sci-fi in the old school, you may well need to watch it a couple of times though (I did). Likewise 'Moon', excellent little film (and Sam Rockwell's performance is just brilliant). A.I., meh, schmaltzfest, hollow, mainpulative sentiment rather than genuine emotion to me, mileage varies though, as per (it's also possible i'm just dead inside of course ;).

'The Thing' (1982) is very good, not seen it in a while so I may need to rewatch to see how the effects hold up (nearer the time they were gut-flippingly realistic). The original (1951 ish ?) movie's pretty good too (particularly if your gut is flip-averse).

(seen them all I think, FWIW. Got a probably unhealthy number of them on DVD too. Weirdo)
Tastes are so different, uh ... Tarkovskij's "Solaris" I deem quite highly, but I never understood why "Blade Runner" should be one of the best SF films of all time. For me it's average, at least overrated, though the set design is really compelling to me, the story telling isn't. "Serenity" should be up in the twenties at least. For me "2001" is still No. 1, due to its ability to ask the fundamental questions in compelling visual style.
As long as the three crap Star Wars films aren't there, I'm good.
Don't you mean the six crap Star Wars movies?

Oops, did I say that out loud?

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