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July 05 2011

Read "Capitalism Bites!" - a Buffy the Anarcho-Syndicalist tale. Remember back in 2007 when news broke about this counter-culture comic book? Well Nihil Press, the underground zine publisher, eventually made the story available in PDF format.

Is Syndicalist even a word?!?!
I think the word for this is "turgid" although the illustrations aren't bad.
It's not the greatest story in the world but it's fascinating to see the impact the show has.
Ok, that was hysterical. Completely heavy handed, over-bearing, and ridiculous. But hysterical.
Syndicalist is a word, yes.
Well, that was.... something.
I consider myself a conservative, on most issues, and I am a huge fan of Joss Whedon and his work. I could not resist posting a comment regarding this comic "Capitalism Bites!".

Is this really what those on the political left think about those of us on the right? It seems to me that this comic is fighting a battle what was won decades ago.

[ edited by zeitgeist on 2011-07-05 18:31 ]
I admit it; I Ld OL.
Charles - No need to sign your post. Also, no it's not what most on the left think of the right. Anarcho-syndicalism (click to read more) doesn't equate with modern mainstream progressivism in any way.
Comic Sans hurts my eyes.
It hurts because it cares! Wait...
As for "anarcho-syndicalism" or "progressivism" or any other kind of -ism, I quote Ferris Bueller, the great prophet of our times:

"Not that I condone fascism, or any -ism for that matter. -Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, 'I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me.' Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people."

Thus endeth today's lesson.

[ edited by quantumac on 2011-07-05 19:10 ]
That sounds like a load of Walrusism to me, quantumac :) -- alternately it sounds a little like objectivism ;).
I should send this to my father - it's right up his wacky leftist hippie roots alley...

ETA: He is awesome by the way.

[ edited by brinderwalt on 2011-07-05 19:16 ]
Since I am a money grubbing capitalist and a proud bleeding heart liberal, I can guarantee that this is not how most people on the left (at least in the US) think. Seems a good fit for here though. Some times the anti-capitalism faction is pretty loud on Whedonesque. Not that there is anything wrong with that. ;)
Whedonesque - for all of your seemingly contradictory needs!tm
More to the point does this come under fair use or does it break copyright law?
Depends on whether a judge would consider it a derivative or transformative work. Also depends on when/if the original images are copyrighted. Given the dates on these images (prior to 1978, they would need to have had submitted a renewal after 28 years to still be protected, I think).

[ edited by zeitgeist on 2011-07-05 19:37 ]
More to the point does this come under fair use or does it break copyright law?

Seems to go right along with the territory to me...

[ edited by brinderwalt on 2011-07-05 19:34 ]
Simon wrote:
More to the point does this come under fair use or does it break copyright law?

I'm not sure about other countries, but parody is protected under US copyright law. Media companies would probably like us to forget about that, but it is there in the law. This sounds like parody, yes?
Very earnest and serious parody?
It reads less like parody and more like hijacking a known property to get eyeballs.
This seems at a glance to have only the loosest connection to the show, which is a shame, cause I can totally imagine how this could be fantastic! Disappointing.
It is pretty funny though.
I'm occasionally anti-capitalist, but if the anarchists can't write any better than this they deserve to lose.
Three words always get a laugh: (1) hormones, (2) monkeys, (3) anarcho-syndicalism.

I've figured two of them out.
Hah, I picked this up at the London Zine Symposium this year, I can't even remember what stall it was from but it was mainly for the lulz rather than cus I'm a big anarcho-syndicalist, I haven't even had time to read it yet.

In my experience all anarchists love Buffy.
Very earnest and serious parody?

Isn't the very earnest seriousness what makes it parodic ? They're parodying the simple language of some comics (like 'Misty', 'Victor' etc.), simpleminded propaganda and themselves (or at least how they perceive themselves to be perceived) surely ?

Or they're just very earnest and over-serious, neither of which is exactly unheard of for people holding extreme political positions who think their way is the One True Way.

Either way it made me smile, i'm just either laughing with them or at them, depending.

However, their ostensibly carefully framed arguments have far, far bigger problems. E.g. do you "listen intensly" [sic] or do you actually "listen intently" ? Also 'Excellent' has two 'l's and how the hell can Mrs Orwell and the kids be trapped inside when they're plainly standing outside on the porch roof when Buffy et al arrive ? For these reasons as well as that "tonights entertainment" should have a possessive apostrophe it should be clear to anyone that anarcho-syndicalism makes no sense and is morally and intellectually bankrupt. QED. FDR. CIA.
Good artwork. Ah, Tom Sutton.

Not a recent issue, since he died in 2002.
On researching (ie surfing) further - Tom Sutton created the character Buffy in 1994 for an Eros bondage comic, not connected to our Buffy.

He was an artist on Not Brand Ecch!, a favourite of my youth.

[ edited by redeem147 on 2011-07-06 13:38 ]
I love the subtlety of the dialogue.

Honest to God, this reads like parody. But then, this fits in perfectly with Poe's Law (even though we're not talking religion):
Cool link SpendTheNightAlone, ta. I'd only heard of a couple of those (and am now obviously worried about having broken Skiff's Law).

Some random thoughts:

1. It's a cautionary tale about the dangers of the unexamined life?

2. I think it should have been called: "Take This Job and Burn It" or "Beware of False Typists"

3. Is marrying Christian Slater part of the benefit package?

4. Comics are a visual medium. What's with all the redundant narrative exposition? Sheesh. At least let Beret! Giles say it. ;-) He's a cutie.


digupherbones, hee. Thanks for the link. : )

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