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July 24 2011

Watch the Joss Whedon panel at Comic-Con. TFAW.com filmed the whole event. Joss talks about Buffy Season 8 and 9, Angel & Faith, Dr Horrible 2, the unlikelihood of a Serenity sequel, Buffy on Broadway, more Firefly, Dollhouse and Dr Horrible comic books, The Avengers actors and wanting to write a strong male gay character.

This is a nice sharp video with good sound, which is always a treat. I'm excited about the online Spike comic, which I hope won't be hard to get the code from my local comic book guy (he really is more into Superheros and other DC and Marvel stuff, he tries to keep up with Whedon goodness... but he isn't into it).
Nice. The Dark Horse guy in the beginning was talking about a new Dollhouse series. Is this the Epitaphs miniseries, or will this be a totally new series?
Okay, who is the jerk who decided to unwrap candy wrappers 18 minutes into this thing? You can hardly hear Joss (and can't hear the questioners) over the racket with the annoying candy wrappers! Grrr argh.

lol
Before I watch this, I noticed there's no big red spoiler tag next to the link. So are there no Buffy Season 9 spoilers? 'Cuz I'm kinda hoping for some!
At about the 16:30 mark, Joss mentions a desire to move the Serenity comic book stories "forward". That is all kinds of Shiny. He also hints at more character back stories, as in the Shepherd Book comic. IMO, a Zoe back story would be interesting. Overall, I'm thrilled that he's still trying to keep the Sereniverse alive, despite little hope of a BDM2.

ETA: If Movie had Executives had been in the audience when Joss said the words "Serenity Sequel", the applause would've given them some idea of just how Much folks want a BDM2.

[ edited by TDBrown on 2011-07-24 17:18 ]
That whole code thing kind of sucks for me, who lives outside a small town in Sweden, with no comic book store within at least a five town radius.
Yesterday at the Dark Horse booth signing, I asked Joss if he was still going to be doing future shows on the networks. He said that no, he thinks that he learned his lesson and will be doing them on cable instead.
I would love to put in a bid for the strong gay character! I'm a gay man, and constantly find gay characters on television to be a disgrace and extremely flat. For some reason, we can almost never be portrayed as normal people that happen to be gay. If the project gets going, I'll be pushing to be apart of it in any way.

Serenity continued as comics!!! Shiny!

And Angel and Faith makes me so excited that I can't contain myself. Literally, I just piddled... lol

[ edited by Epiphany77 on 2011-07-24 16:57 ]
I was pretty excited by Joss' answer to the question about him taking Buffy to Broadway:

"Yeah, I think she belongs there. [Beat.] In the theatre across from Doctor Horrible."


Of course, he is also very clear that the fact that he would like to do so doesn't mean he'll have the time or that, when/if he does have the time, Broadway producers will have the desire. This is one of the downsides of fandom: making me want things I didn't know to think of wanting! (And then realising that I'll likely never get it.)

[ edited by Ildeth on 2011-07-24 17:15 ]
Terrific video, technically and Joss-wise!
Oh man, I'd love for some original Buffy animated straight-to-DVD movies!! FOX are you even trying?
Terrific panel!

Very happy about the news about Buffy and Spike.

"You gotta put those two together in a room, it's just too much fun... I can't say which room, but..."

Oh, Joss.

Really thrilled about the sequel of "Dr. Horrible".

And - yes, Joss should produce "Once More With Feeling" on Broadway!
August and September seem so far away...
@Moscow Watcher:
He's made it clear before that if Buffy ever goes to broadway, it won't be Once More With Feeling, as that's not a standalone story. It would have to be a whole new musical.
It has been getting really hard for me to know what I need to tell my comic book guy to order... for some reason I only hear about stuff right before it is released (months after the advance time needed for subscriptions). How can I tell him to request the code for the Spike comic? It is a little frustrating....

[ edited by embers on 2011-07-24 19:12 ]
@embers:
It's worse for me. There is no comic book store for me to go to.
This was so awesome, and I'm glad that those of us who couldn't go still got to see it.

I like that Dr. Horrible 2 sounds very much in-progress. For the moment I am simply content to know that it will happen, though it will probably still be a while.

Nice Avengers tidbits, I'm getting more and more excited for that movie every week.

Interesting that he said that we would get to see how Spike got his bug ship. Wasn't that one of the main purposes of that Spike miniseries we got from Brian Lynch and IDW a few months ago? I thought we had been brought up to speed on that already. I hope S9 doesn't waste time going back and telling that story. (Because it's very strange.)

Getting excited for S9 and A&F. I'm also very glad to hear that we will be seeing fun interactions between Angel and Buffy characters. I eat that stuff up.

Gay male character. Yes. I would read that. I feel like that is something that has been relatively unexplored and deserves more. When he says "book" does he mean comic or novel? I would read either, but a novel by Joss Whedon sounds awesome and I hope to see that someday.

Also, his face after he says "Who doesn't love cock?" is absolutely priceless.

Overall, this seemed like an awesome panel. Maybe I'll actually get to be there in person next year.
@GreatMuppetyOdin - I see. Thanks for clarification.

As much as I'd love to see OMWF on Broadway, seeing a completely new Joss-penned Buffy show there would be even better!
Funny, charming, informative. Yeah, that's a Joss Whedon Q&A. :)
I couldn't stop laughing when the girl asked Joss why he writes strong female characters. The expressions on his face as he pondered his answer were priceless.
I really miss not being there this year but watching the panel this way means I catch the little things - like when he says " I am your boss." My Joss is Boss shirt is validated!

hmm. It keeps freezing at the 27 minute mark.

[ edited by Lioness on 2011-07-25 02:17 ]
I thought Scott would be asking Joss questions but it turned into the Joss show, which was okay by me. He's fully capable of running a panel.
My, admittedly lonely, Dollhouse love is validated.

I'm obsessed with that Amy Acker/Fran Kranz scene from season two. It's one of the most heartbreaking scenes joss has ever done. It's a very different show to anything joss did before, and people were always going to connect with it (or not) in a different way than Buffy, Angel or Firefly -- but it's the most adult and interesting of his work for me.
Gossi, you're not alone in your Dollhouse love. That scene is amazing, and the show in general was probably the most challenging of Joss's works, which is why I think people tend to overlook or ignore it.
I don't think Dollhouse worked. But it had lots of potential and moments of brilliance -- and that scene between Acker and Kranz was off the charts wonderful. Indeed, if I had to pick one scene from the whole series, that'd probably be it.
and that scene between Acker and Kranz was off the charts wonderful


Yes. It reminded me of Bladerunner. It was incredibly well done.
If Movie had Executives had been in the audience when Joss said the words "Serenity Sequel", the applause would've given them some idea of just how Much folks want a BDM2.

How much, yes. But that's how much the self-selected group of vocal fans want it. That same group failed to translate into a success for the first one.

Yesterday at the Dark Horse booth signing, I asked Joss if he was still going to be doing future shows on the networks. He said that no, he thinks that he learned his lesson and will be doing them on cable instead.

This should be getting more play, although can you remember his exact wording?
Giles_314: "Gay male character. Yes. I would read that. I feel like that is something that has been relatively unexplored and deserves more. When he says "book" does he mean comic or novel? I would read either, but a novel by Joss Whedon sounds awesome and I hope to see that someday."

You know, it did sound a lot like he was talking about an actual novel, as he referred to all his comic projects as comics. However, it did come a bit out of the blue. Just another thing to add to his "After the Avengers" pile.

Awesome stuff here and one of the better ones I've seen. I can't share his love for the Acker and Kranz scene in Dollhouse enough, which really is one of the best things he has ever done, even if Dollhouse is my least favourite of his TV series.

Season 9 is sounding more and more awesome. I only recently finished off season 8 and just a few issues from the end I was thinking how they really needed to make things smaller and take it back to the more recognisable stories from the TV series. Reading the final issue and seeing Joss's note that closed the book only a couple of days after thinking this was a moment of relief. Season 8 certainly had its good moments and the back half did some interesting things (and some completely insane things,) but I certainly welcome the acknowledgement in this video that he needs to write it more like the original show.
b!X, I do believe joss has said before in interviews that if he returns to TV, it should be cable.
I've never heard him say anything as definitive as what's claimed above. Either I missed earlier remarks, the definitivity is new, or it's a poor paraphrase of a less definitive comment. Just trying to suss out which.
Glad that was put up but jeez, am I the only one who gets really sick of the whooping and cheering following every statement? I kept having to adjust the volume on my headphones so as not to deafen myself! Yeah I know, it's fun or whatever.

Anyway, that was a nice panel, although I did have to cringe when that girl asked about writing strong female characters. I kept hoping she would make him squirm for a few minutes and then make out like it was a joke, but nah.

Re. the gay male thing, I'd be interested, but I'm still more interested in women. I mean I know he's 'done' lesbians but we're only talking about 5 characters (that I can think of, not counting Karolina) and only Willow is really a central character (and not even the protagonist in the series).

I'm personally still waiting to see a queer girl in her own comic book (any recommendations?), don't think it'd be more or less deserving of attention than gay men. But then I am biased.

Vandelay I took 'book' to mean comic book, just cus contextually it was all about comic books. I don't know if I can imagine what Joss' prose would be like.

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