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December 14 2011

Could Netflix bring Firefly back from the dead? I can hear the groans before I even post but the article is interesting all the same.

I don't think they could afford it and I can't see networks changing actors' contracts just so they could fim the show.
I could see Joss producing a series for Netflix but it won't be Firefly.
Filming six episode seasons during Nathan Fillion's Castle hiatuses would be totally doable.

[ edited by Barry Woodward on 2011-12-14 08:57 ]
We're doing this again are we…
When Netflix announced the deal for more Arrested Development, my first reaction was glee. My second? Apprehension that it would bring speculation about Netflix doing the same for Firefly.
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People seem to forget or have not heard that Netflix CEO Reed Hastings was asked specifically about Firefly this past summer:

"...a colleague wanted her to suggest Firefly, a show Fox canceled almost a decade ago after it ran for just one year. Hastings acknowledged the show is popular among Netflix streamers, but that it would be impractical to create new episodes, given the actors have aged and the sets no longer exist."
I find it incredibly amusing how disgruntled everyone gets over this conversation.
Usually because it's pretty silly and no one ever seems to think it through or do any reading on the matter first.
... and another reason is prolly just the emotional weariness many folks feel - myself included - at the thought of folks getting their hopes up (and all that that entails, including the confabulation and the bickering) only to have them dashed against the rocks of Practical TV Reality. I'd have to say that this was one of the more plausibly-written I've read, though, in a long while.

The one obstacle to more Firefly that I always hear and don't share at all is that it couldn't be re-started because the cast has aged a handful of years. I find that notion positively compelling, myself.

I'd love to see imaginings of the crew et al. ten years-ish into the future after Serenity - did the Kaylee/Simon relationship last? What's the Washburne kid like? Did Mal and Inara ever get together, or did they kill each other? The Operative ten years after being broken - is he whack or redeemed? Was there an #OccupyBlueSun movement? Did an unexpected son-of-a-Shepherd ever show up? Is River still made of chocolate? And so on...

Really well-imagined, this ten-years-after series could be fascinating, and it's one I'd rather see over trying to recreate the past Serenifly scenarios, or try to pick up exactly where we left off....

Oh, yeah, practical reality - the demo would be seen as skewing too old.

And then there's the fact that it simply won't ever get made for a slew of other reasons, all too numerous and re-hashed to enumerate again.

But damn, I'd watch "Firefly: Ten Years After" in a hot minute.
I'm with you, QG. And that is all I have to say about that.
In regards to the quote by Hastings, the aging of the actors has to be pretty low on the list of reasons why a theoretical Netflix resurrection would be impractical, IMO. Which isn't to say that it will happen or even that Netflix should think twice about it, just sayin'...
It wouldn't just be Nathan's schedule you'd have to worry about, Barry.

Anyway, the painful answer is no. If they made another movie -- which, hey Mr Avengers, don't rule that out -- I'd make it 10-20 years later, lower budget, about the aftermath of taking down (or trying to take down) a government.
How about a new ship with a new crew or some other type of spin-off? Yeah, I know that huge part of why we love Firefly/Serenity is our original crew, but if Joss’s got another one of those brilliant ideas of his a felt like doing it, I don’t see a reason why it couldn’t work. Joss has already proven with Angel that you can do a great new show within the universe of an already existing, beloved show and create a new gang of main protagonist that will be loved in the same way as the protagonists of the mother show. And they could have guest appearances of Mal and co. as well… Thus solving the availability of actors issue. Heck, maybe one of them could even be part or the head of the new crew… After all, it would be ten years later, so by then, the Firefly crew could have split up – and it wouldn’t even had to have happened in a bad way or by some people dying. Maybe Simon and Kayllee went to raise their kid(s), Jayne went to be the hero of Canton or whatever etc. Ok, this is Whedonverse, so there’s probably no chance of Simon and Kaylee being together and having kids. So be it, a horrible, painful death instead. :-D Or whatever other drastic measure that needs to be taken in order so that we could return to the Verse. That last sentence wasn’t meant completely seriously. ;-)
I don't see why the fans would want it to go back to TV. Mr. Whedon gave us a movie. If we were ever lucky enough to see more of Firefly it should be a second movie. I like the ten years later idea from QG.
Let's be accurate about what is going on with AD, first: A series of single character episodes (one for each character) followed by a movie. It is essentially a mini-series with no requirements that much, if any, of the original sets be used. In a way, it is sort of like season 2 of Jericho. They had to fake a lot of stuff on a very limited budget. That might work for a sitcom, but did not (and would not) work for an immersive sci-fi show.

If Firefly had the same treatment, we'd feel robbed. Firefly is about a family. You can't do a family show with the family members not seeing each other. And you can't do it with an old school Doctor Who budget.

A spinoff with some of the original cast might work, if it were tied to one location, etc... but it would not be Firefly - and it would tarnish what was there.

On the other hand: I think that budget and availability set of issues would totally work for a TV series set in the world of Doctor Horrible...
From what I recall, Babylon 5 fans were over the moon about The Lost Tales until they saw it.
Actors aging? Piffle. And... What QuoterGal SaidTM. But also what The One True b!X SaidTM.

I've gotten to the emotional point where I realize that I just need to accept myself as an Evangelical (low key) Firefly-er who spreads The Word whenever it comes up, but also accept that my is love based in a magical past. Or until I hear differently from He-Who-Wears-the-Crown-of-Purple. No one else counts. (Buffy without Joss is unthinkable and so is Firefly.)

So I settle for expressing my shading-toward-rabid love by buying the comics and wearing my kanjii necklace while playing with my Serentiy keychain and smiling every time my phone rings and I get to hear "Take my love, take my land... etc."
A spinoff with some of the original cast might work, if it were tied to one location, etc... but it would not be Firefly - and it would tarnish what was there.

Pardon, but I beg to disagree. If you look out at all the Firefly-derived creations that exist just right now (in the form of films, books, toys, graphic novels, etc.), while I'd say that none have managed to quite match the sheer awesomeness quotient of the original series, I'd also argue that every single one of those creations has contributed positively to the sense of internal integrity that is key to what made the show so special in the first place, and I see no reason why [a] tv spinoff[s] wouldn't do likewise.
Even if the article is rubbish, that group photo is awesome.
brinderwalt said, I'd say that none have managed to quite match the sheer awesomeness quotient of the original series

I agree. And IMHO, when Joss was creating the show, he had overflowing passion in creating something new. Something close to his heart. Taking it from a nugget of an idea and turning it into a sprawling universe. I'm not sure anyone (Joss included) could re-capture the creative magic and necessary passion to match the original.

You can't turn on passion or inspiration like a light switch.
How about something new? Like a Superhero movie or a mind-exploding horror flick? Or even a Shakespeare retelling? (Oh man next year is going to kick everyone's ass).

After the current projects are finished up and everyone finally finds time for the next incarnation of Horribleness, I'd love to see him dust off some idea from the back of his mind for a new TV series. The man is genius. I like the idea of a '10 years later' movie, but I also just love the idea of him continuously shocking us with great new ideas. After all he is quite good at it.
An animated series would be nice. That way the actors could literally phone it in, to suit their schedules.
Sunfire has some entertaining notions about "Firefly: Ten Years Later" over on her tumblr.

I love the idea of a contentiously-Buddhist Mal.
I agree. And IMHO, when Joss was creating the show, he had overflowing passion in creating something new. Something close to his heart. Taking it from a nugget of an idea and turning it into a sprawling universe. I'm not sure anyone (Joss included) could re-capture the creative magic and necessary passion to match the original.

In my not so humble opinion, one of the greatest things about the whole Firefly universe is how potent that nugget is - it's like a creative goldmine just waiting for someone to pick it up from where Fox left it - which is why I would absolutely love for a continuation or spinoff to emerge. And - to make myself clear - the prospect of seeing something emerge which is not exactly the same or "as awesome" as the original doesn't bother me in the least. As long as it's well done I'm game.
The determining factor (setting aside finances, the actual determining factor) wouldn't, or shouldn't, be whether or not someone has a sense of it being the same, or awesome, or whatever. Rather, it would, or should, be whether or not Joss had a story to tell that he couldn't avoid heading off into the black to tell.
I prefer the idea of a radio series over an animated one. Though I sadly don't see anything other than comics (and perhaps some novelizations by non-verse writers) happening and I'm not really interested in either of those.
I will forever love the idea of a radio play. Coconuts for horses! Also, I will forever remain a champion of small-scale web stuff like Session 416.
Oh, gosh, I'd love a resurgence of radio plays; I like going for long walks, and I'd like to hear a tale on the way.

Anyway, I'd say the chances of more Firefly outside of comics is slim to none, but I'd be eternally excited if something was ever announced.

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