I remember Joss saying Serenity was Mal's story told through River's eyes, so I guess similar tactics would be used here.

Sigfodr | January 13, 20:11 CET

My thoughts exactly Sigfodr. I just posted this elsewhere, spoilering just in case since I dont' know whats still a spoiler to some about this movie vs what isn't:

I think Avengers is going to follow Serenity as far as story beats go. Cap/Hulk=River, a character who is lost and confused who is initially used to introduce us to a strange and fantastic world/a character who is a ticking time bomb who the crew has to learn to trust and accept into their family. This character also has to learn to take care of others and be a true hero.

Thor/Stark=Mal, this one isn't actually as good of a comparsion as the first but Mal is the other central character to the storyline and I didn't see anyone else fitting in here. Thor is clearly going to be central cause his brother is the villain and Tony by virtue of being the most popular character.

The crew=everyone who's not in the big 4, duh. They're not the focus of the storyline but they all get their moments to shine and get adequate screen time.

Loki=The Operative, our central villain. He believes that what he is doing is right. He's not your 2 dimensional mustache twirling bad guy.

Reavers=whatever Loki's army is. Since I don't know anything about Loki's army I can't really do a good comparsion but in the film the reavers, our heroes, and the alliance have one amazing air battle. I'm hoping some of the spec is right and Loki's army turns on him near the end which would help solidify my comparsion.

eddy | January 13, 20:49 CET

I hope you're wrong, Eddy, simply because I want to believe Joss has more than one film in him. :)

daylight | January 13, 21:23 CET

This didn't come as any surprise to me, and probably not to many of us who know his work. I think if you gave the subject any thought at all, it's totally Joss.

Znachki | January 13, 21:58 CET

Yeah, once I read the headline I immediatly thought of the Cap. Just makes sense when you know Joss's style of storytelling. Doesn't mean it'll be so overtly comparable to Serenity as the characters are very different, but this is his style.

Mitholas | January 13, 23:44 CET

And it makes sense from any writer's perspective. Cap is new to the world, and telling the story from his point of view gives you the opportunity to reintroduce all those characters that shouldn't be in the same room but are.

Also, as a fan of comics, I would say that Cap is the one character I was most concerned about representing on screen. Everyone else is easy enough, but Cap is nuanced and conflicted in a more emotional way than anyone in this story. I was nervous about giving Evans the shield, but it worked, and if this story is told from his side, it will inevitably give more insight into his character, and that character will need all the help he can get.

Sigfodr | January 14, 01:16 CET

So is that scene of Captain America's awakening in the upcoming film also? Either the article was unclear or I am being lazy, possibly both. Just want to know how to see that scene because it sounds neat.

will.bueche | January 14, 03:05 CET

@will.bueche - The scene they talk about with Captain America waking up in New York comes at the end of 'Captain America', right before the credits (a teaser trailer for The Avengers comes after the credits.) I am not one hundred percent sure, but the final shot/line makes be pretty certain that the sequence was written and directed by Whedon.

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[ edited by Vandelay on 2012-01-14 14:53 ]

Vandelay | January 14, 14:52 CET

The scene of Cap's awakening was at the end of Captain America so I don't think it will be in the Avengers. Or did you mean something else?

Squishy | January 14, 14:54 CET

I'm just throwing this out there but how much do you wanna bet the S.HI.E.L.D. agent from all of the Marvel movies so far (no clue what his name is) gets killed in The Avengers?

leafblown | January 14, 15:49 CET

Without have read the article or the comments, I'm going to guess Captain America because he's the naif.

batmarlowe | January 14, 17:48 CET

@leafblown - Agent Phil Coulson. I hope not. I like him (death warrant signed). The actor is in the "Much Ado" Joss made, as well. So are Fran Kranz, Amy Acker, and Alexis Denisof. I'm sure he'll be fine in Avengers.

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Sigfodr | January 14, 18:25 CET

Apparently the final scene of Captain America was directed by Joe Johnston. Hence it being before rather than after the end credits.

daylight | January 14, 20:22 CET

Based on Joss doing some script doctoring I think it's safe to say his fingerprints are all over the downbeat ending of Captain America. Which was fantastic.

Really hope they start to amp up the marketing on this, we're 4 months away and it still feels like that guy in the batsuit is getting a lot more info and hype out there than our team of misfits. Anyone know when a new trailer is due?

MrArg | January 14, 21:28 CET

Super Bowl?

Simon | January 14, 23:16 CET

That would be a very good call.

MrArg | January 15, 05:03 CET

Maybe we're taking Joss too figuratively.

The studio might release special 3D glasses that resemble Chris Evans' face, in which case everyone would be seeing the movie through Cap's eyes.

OneTeV | January 15, 17:18 CET