Wonder what the people at Wolfram & Hart would say about that.

Fun read.

the Groosalugg | February 11, 11:34 CET

M'Naghten...is that like Mmmm, cookies or more like M'Fashnik?

I never really thought of this, but IMO vampires probably don't give a crap if they're murdering or not...and I doubt Sunnydale police would want to be out there rounding the vamps up for fair trials.

But an entertaining article.

MelloMania | February 11, 17:32 CET

Believe it's more like, "M'Fashnik", but opinions vary.

Still, this is a question that hasn't crossed my mind.

1: Is it right to prosecute a creature (souless or otherwise) that is only seeking its substance to exist?

2: What would be the penalty? Locked away in a deep, cold dungeon? Hey, a typical vamp's home.

3: Try to pull a guilt trip looking for remorse? Hello, demon!

4: Threaten something they value...

That's a possibility, yet, you're now becoming a monster in your sense of righteous. A slippery slope indeed.

Madhatter | February 11, 20:55 CET

Hmm, well if you believe that, even if they have no personality before they enter the human body (which was of course never specified,) the animating demon is inherently a non-resident of this dimension, and the body is fundamentally an anchor for them here rather than their essential self, then dusting a vamp is basically (admittedly without trial) deportation rather than execution. (Boy could I have used more adverbs in that argument?)

Hmmm, maybe when vamp demons, having acquired their human-based personality, go back to whatever hell they're native to, they become the Turok-Han? (That would be damnation for Harmony, at least!)

DaddyCatALSO | February 11, 21:12 CET

Yes, but wouldn't that be a case of kidnapping?

[ edited by Madhatter on 2012-02-11 21:47 ]

Madhatter | February 11, 21:45 CET

Is anyone else having Simon come up in non admin colouring?

Ivalaine | February 11, 23:46 CET

No? Admin colours don't appear on the front page if that's any help. VIPs do.

Simon | February 12, 00:06 CET

Actually, we appreciate Simon anyway we can get him. He's quite a charm!

Madhatter | February 12, 06:43 CET

My first thought would be that vampires aren't human, anymore than lions and tigers are. A lion would eat us for food but you wouldn't call it murder and you couldn't prosecute a lion under human law. With a vampire there may be more of a case to argue malicious intent but at the end of the day they still aren't human and still see us as a source of sustenance and lower on the food chain. Not sure how any human court could get around that without opening up a whole can of legal precedent worms as far as animals rights groups are concerned.

Five Horizons | February 13, 16:35 CET