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February 13 2012

(SPOILER) A love letter to Buffy. Kelly Thompson at Comic Book Resources praises Buffy Season 9 #6 by saying "This single comic book made for a good day for comics. A good day for characters. A good day for creators. A good day for feminism."

Season 9 has been killing it. SPOILERS, #5 with Willow leaving, and #6 with Buffy's abortion..It feels like Buffy again.
This was a nice read. Thanks for posting it.
They keep talking, as they did here, as if Buffy already had the abortion, but she has not. She has only decided to but has not yet actually done it.
Oh dear. I see they're using on of Zugmas artworks, which must be one of the most nicked fanarts on the net.

I wonder If they asked permission first?
Probably not. It seems to be one of those few fan images that has become "official". Which is nice in a way but I'm sure the fan artist would like some acknowledgement.
Given the dubious nature of the legality of fan art do they really need to get permission? I always thought it was just a courtesy to acknowledge the artist, which I see by the comments on the page the author of the piece has done.
Well It's always good to ask first. It costs nothing after all, and If you use google you'll see just how many people have used that particular artwork without permission. And that name check has only just been added due to somebody posting a comment telling them what that artwork is and who made it.

Hell, even the UK arm of the FX channel used to use it as their Buffy ident in the ad breaks and the artist in question wasn't asked about it before hand either.

As to the comic. Well count me in as one of those who don't think Whedon will let her go ahead with it.

[ edited by sueworld2003 on 2012-02-14 15:39 ]
Kaan said it about as discreetly as anyone could. While it is possible to infringe on a work that is already infringing, I would think that it's sort of all's fair at that point.
I knew I'd seen that image of Buffy somewhere fairly regularly, sueworld2003. Couldn't place where until you mentioned the FX ident. It's one thing for it to be used by other fans randomly on the internet but it's a bit much that a television channel, especially one connected to FOX, feels free to use something without permission. Ever so slightly hypocritical, I'd say.

Now, if FOX weren't well known for clamping down on any and every use of anything they can lay a claim to, then that would be all's fair, as KoC said, but this would suggest that they want it both ways. Not fair at all.
"Kaan said it about as discreetly as anyone could. While it is possible to infringe on a work that is already infringing, I would think that it's sort of all's fair at that point."

Well as you frequent a forum where this particular fan artist resides I do hope you go and tell her so. :)

And without derailing this thread any further let me say that I still do believe that out of politeness people (especially in the case of large companies such as FX) one should ask first before taking. Particularly as that artwork isn't just a simple head swop, but a complex combination of a whole host of different images plus effects.

Her website is simply amazing.

And let me also say that I'm not holding my breath over the abortion issue as I really do think they will duck out of this one at the last moment somehow.
Well as you frequent a forum where this particular fan artist resides I do hope you go and tell her so. :)

You say that as though I'm insulting fanartists; why (other than to start mess)? I have done fanfic and transcripts myself. And, I do think there is a tenable argument for fair use if any fanartist, fic author, etc ever actually were sued (although fair use is tougher to argue in still art, since when you adopt an existing picture, you're basically using the whole of an existing image, which is one of the four "prongs" of the fair use statute). But it's a reach to act -- in any of our cases -- like we've been morally wronged by any and all unpermitted use of a work that was only made possible by the unpermitted use of someone else's.
Last word on this. Politeness costs nothing. In the art circles I mix in folks ask before taking. It's all part of online etiquette. But then maybe I'm just being old fashioned I don't know. :)
Wouldn't the artwork count as a transformative work?

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