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February 16 2012

Joss Whedon talks about the inspiration behind Cabin. "It's basically a very loving hate letter".

Love that quote! Haven't read anything on Cabin yet (I'm trying desperately to remain unspoiled), and I'm not going to now either (with the release so near) but this one is very, very, tempting.
There are no spoilers here, the Groosalugg. It is only 3-4 sentences from Joss and you know he doesn't like spoilers.
Thanks for pointing that out Lioness! Made for a good, but very short, read.
I'm very excited!!! Horror used to be my favorite genre, until recently because of the bad horror films that have come out. Joss put it perfectly; it really is torture porn.

That's why I can't wait to see this! It'll probably be the first horror movie I'll actually love in a while.
This seems like it is definitely Joss's breakout year. I wonder how massive success will affect his work in the future.
Great little exchange, but leaves me wanting more. Much more. It's going to be a huge relief when this film actually arrives and all concerned can finally discuss it in depth. Good times.
Bloggers in the UK see it tonight (maybe right now?) and there's apparently a "fan screening" there, apparently with Joss, tomorrow. So says Twitter, anyway.
Wow, then I guess we'll start getting some actual reviews soon.
I doubt it. This is just the latest of recent critic screenings over the past several weeks. All of them with embargoes. Although I don't know how they expect to keep the "fan screening" from spoiling the shit out of the movie.
I'm excited :). I actually hate most horror movies for all the reasons he mentioned (and I don't enjoy being scared). This will be the first one I see in theaters in possibly years.
Same here, luciddreams. I DESPISE scary movies. But this is Joss' version of what a scary movie is... So I'm totally there.
I've never seen a horror movie. I've never had any desire to see one, but Joss is a factor that kinda overrules genre for me.
Well, horror is my favorite genre, but Joss is right - most of it is rubbish. Lazy and by-the-numbers. In the right hands, however - like those of Drew and Joss, just as a random example I plucked out of the blue - it can pack a considerable wallop.
Horror has been defined down to such a point that if it is not schlock, it does not qualify. Under the technical definition though, saying "I dislike horror" is basically saying you don't care for The Birds, The Shining, Alien, and Jaws.

I'm not a big horror film guy, but I love a great horror film. I simply lament there are so few of them that strive to be great. Of all the genres, this is the one most tortured by hacks and cynical producers. Although admittedly it has created some hilarious B movies.

[ edited by azzers on 2012-02-17 05:53 ]
I would argue that there are some other genres that produce more painful misfires more frequently. When a horror film is done badly, it's usually funny. When a romantic comedy is done badly, it's usually excruciatingly unfunny.
There are no bad romantic comedies. There is only a shortage of wine.
Actually, while I was working out I thought of that Shapenew. There are a lot of cynical rom coms out there. Still, I don't think rom com gets quite the stigma.

When a romcom is done correctly, people don't try to redefine it. When Harry Met Sally IS a romantic comedy. When you make Jaws, you have a lot of people arguing it's actually a thriller. SciFi and Horror are the two genres that I see constantly argued to be something else when they dare to have comprehensible plots, human stakes, and multidimensional characters.
I don't care for horror as a genre but I can think of three that I liked and they had several points in common: low budget, minimal special effects, science fiction elements, and very little gore. They were Village of the Damned, Right At Your Front Door, and one that I think was called Impulse. The latter is a slow burn; it depicts in documentary style a handful of ordinary people who begin to act on the promptings of their ids with no superego check whatsoever.

I don't expect Cabin to be that type of film, but a lot of Joss's work is about people banding together to deal with problems, and I could go for that.
I could do a complete rendition of "Green Eggs and Ham" on horror movies. Not when it's well done. Not with Eliza. Not with Joss. I would not could not watch them anymore. The repetitious big suspenseful gnawing "Is this person about to brutally die!?!!?" build-up... I HATE that. I just want to disengage with the movie - fast forward, be elsewhere, whatever. Never understood the enjoyment of being scared. It's just uncomfortable. On the other hand, an action movie with people being blown apart left and right... that doesn't bug me at all (leaving aside that most action movies are total dreck, which is another thing entirely).
I like oysters and snails. So as long as they are tasty, I don't mind.

It also helps to know what genre the film is before you watch it on the big screen. I thought Event Horizon was going to be a scifi romp. Big mistake. Scariest experience in the cinema ever.
With you on Event Horizon Simon, one of the most profoundly disturbing, unsettling and scary films I have ever seen. Bought it on Blu Ray a couple of years ago and still haven't mustered the courage to stick it in the player.
Horror was my favorite genre growing up (I was pretty much raised on it. I know I saw the Puppet Master series before elementary school and also saw one of the Nightmare on Elm St movies in theaters when I was 7! Per my request apparently). It has definitely left me pretty jaded as of late, but for anyone else who feels the same, I recommend Insidious. It's the best I had seen in a long time.
DreamRose311, loved "Insidious." I was sitting with a friend holding a huge sheaf of notes during the movie - he got so scared he scrunched the whole sheaf.
I've been going through the films of John Carpenter lately, and you wanna talk about a master of horror--WOW. I'm so in love with him. It's given me an appreciation for the horror genre I never really had before, and has made me even more excited for this film.
Simon, I couldn't agree with you more. A different genre but same idea are character studies passed off as comedies. Both Young Adult and Super were films that I have heard severe negative reactions to because the audience was expecting to laugh constantly and feel comfy. Unfortunately there was nothing in those movies that was even remotely designed to satisfy that kind of audience.
I love horror. Give me a bad horror film over an average action film any day. I won't include the likes of Saw in that though, as they are barely horror films. In fact the original (which, to be fair, is an okay film,) is far closer to a thriller in the vein of 'Seven' then any horror film.

I was pleasantly surprised by 'Insidious' too, DreamRose311. After a few negative reviews, I was expecting it to not be that great, but I decided to go to the cinema anyway and found myself squirming in my seat for quite a lot of it. I particularly loved the simplicity of some of the scares, especially the early balcony one. As ever though, the confrontation with the big CGI demon thing was a let down, although the reveal with the creepy music was nicely done.

Not so keen on 'Event Horizon' though. I only saw it for the first time a few months ago in fact and found it to be rather mediocre. The flashes of "hell" were quite striking, but I couldn't help feeling that the story was just ripped out of the 'Doom' games. The use of Prodigy's 'Funky Shit' during the credits tells you all you really need to know about the tone of the film too. For that reason, it doesn't come as much surprise to see that it was directed by Paul W. Anderson, he of the 'Resident Evil' films. Still, it was perfectly watchable and I enjoyed it enough, but I couldn't really see where the cult status came from.
Can't abide a singing pendulum...
This does look sort of itneresting. I know I found Jennifer's Body and Let the Right One In downright boring and From Hell and From Dusk til Dawn just plain ridiculous, not otherwise too familiar with the horror flicks of the past 20 years.
I loved Let the Right One In. Didn't see the American remake. Also loved The Descent, as did Joss if I recall correctly and Cabin uses its composer. (The Descent 2 on the other hand can be skipped.)
Let Me In, is actually a very cool very nice adaptation of Let The Right One In. I wouldn't say it's fair to compare them, but it definitely improves on aspects and cuts on some of the weirder/unnecessary parts of the story. Both so similar yet so different though.
I also recommend Drag Me to Hell. Paranormal Activity and the Ruins were good and scary too.
I couldn't stand Drag Me to Hell, although it was to such a degree that I can't even remember why anymore.
I would say "House of the Devil" is a one of the better horror flicks in recent years, Ti West is a great director. I'd suggest checking it out on netflix instant. Lake Mungo was also great. Other than that (and fun stuff like "Slither") there hasn't been many horror movies I've really gotten into too. Can't wait for Cabin!

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