My new fave Whedonesque headline.

gossi | May 05, 14:49 CET

And one of the sexy Jedi women happens to be Seth's very sexy wife! Lucky, lucky Seth!

You might want to check out Team Unicorn too. Just sayin'!

Five Horizons | May 05, 15:13 CET

I think you meant to say Wookiee ;)

ben_b55 | May 05, 15:19 CET

http://teamunicornftw.com/

One of my favouritest favourite sites. Pretty much ever!

Five Horizons | May 05, 15:24 CET

Corrected thanks Ben_b55

Crypto | May 05, 15:25 CET

it's beauty and the beast all over again

lecter | May 05, 19:56 CET

Hmmm. The whole Team Unicorn thing doesn't do much for me. Even though it's marketed as a tribute to geek girls and gamer girls, it seems to be much more for the benefit of gamer boys.

BrewBunny | May 05, 21:30 CET

Yeah, it is just a sleazy video, kind of lame.

will.bueche | May 06, 09:50 CET

Just because something happens to be overtly sexy, doesn't automatically make it sleazy. The intent of what the Team Unicorn ladies are about is fairly obvious, using classic male fantasy tropes humorously in geeky situations. That's the joke. Just because the ladies in question happen to be extremely attractive and look great in those situations should be something that is frowned upon.

I've been a fan of Team Unicorn for a while and I can tell you for a fact that they are far more than just wannabe glamour models. They're very aware of what they are doing and there is a lot more to them than empty-headed bimbos. They use their sexuality as part of their routine, sure, but why not? As long as that isn't all they are or all they are viewed as, then what is wrong with knowing that you look great in very little clothing and making the most of that. As long as it's their choice then why look down on it? I don't think that it's lame at all. I think it's equal measures hilarious and sexy, which is obviously what they are going for, and I applaud them for feeling entitled to be whatever they want to be, despite what people might choose to think.

Five Horizons | May 06, 11:04 CET

well, at least there's finally a place on the internet where guys can get their boners. aren't you all sick of watching intelligent women saying and doing cool stuff while being fully dressed by now? such an overused cliché...

Tsuliwaensis | May 06, 11:20 CET

I think Seth only got that directing job because he was sleeping with the actress. See what I did there?

KingofCretins | May 06, 11:58 CET

@Tsuliwaensis

Alternatively, if those same intelligent women choose to say and do cool stuff whilst not being fully dressed, who are we to tell them that they can't or shouldn't feel okay about doing so? Why is it acceptable to limit what they can feel free to do with their own bodies when they do it by choice. Why is there need to be condescending to a bunch of girls that really enjoy what they do?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone, male or female, using their sexuality as a part of who they are. We all want to be attractive to the people we find attractive. It's a large part of our nature. Hell, the species basically depends on it! Sex is not something that we should hide from or treat as sordid. A person should be able to show themselves in any way they desire without it being considered a matter of a lack of intelligence or an issue of equality. Telling people that they aren't allowed to present themselves in a sexual manner is just as limiting as telling them that they can't vote, can't share a bus, or can't worship the god they choose to worship. People have to be free to be who they want to be without fear of being attacked by those that don't agree. Even if that choice includes wearing sexy clothing during a Star Wars comedy sketch. We can't demand equal rights for gender, colour and creed if we then turn around and say that other freedoms of choice are no longer available.

Team Unicorn dress the way they do in their sketches because they choose to and they enjoy it. That choice in no way limits them to being nothing but sex objects. Far from it! As I said before, those girls are anything but lacking in intelligence and they know EXACTLY what they are doing. So if they have no problem with using their sexuality as part of who they are, why should we have a problem with that?

@KoC

Hah! ;)

Five Horizons | May 06, 12:38 CET

It didn't occur to me that the models had any part in writing the story. I assumed they were just hired booth-babes (with the exception of Seth's wife of course). If they aren't just hired models that makes it less sleazy, I agree.

will.bueche | May 06, 18:12 CET

I'm not telling them what to do or not to do, they're free to do whatever the hell they want. just as I'm free to have an opinion about that. there's not much more to it. and I'm just bored with stuff like that, it's not interesting, amusing or entertaining for my brain.

Tsuliwaensis | May 06, 20:41 CET

Fair enough, but you could have offered that opinion with a simple 'Not my kinda thing' rather than making the suggestion that Team Unicorn was little more than a softcore porn site.

I certainly wouldn't expect you to watch anything you have no interest in, regardless of what that might be. All I'm saying is that you respect the girls enough to allow them to do whatever they like without being insulted or condemned as unintelligent boner material, as you implied earlier, especially as that is so very far from being the truth.

Five Horizons | May 06, 21:04 CET

If that clip is representative of their work, then they ARE making "unintelligent boner material". Why is that insulting? It is what it is. Is it insulting to call a horror film a horror film, or a comedy a comedy?

will.bueche | May 06, 23:03 CET

@"Just because something happens to be overtly sexy, doesn't automatically make it sleazy."

Absolutely. I think sites like EroticBPM, in which women are expressing themselves in nude sets, are saying much more about their individuality than it may seem on the surface. There is much validity in all forms of nude and semi-nude expression, and a rich history of it from time immemorial.

I just don't see much that is credible in that clip. It doesn't seem to have much self-expression, rather it seems to pander.

will.bueche | May 06, 23:10 CET

Try this instead then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnofql9k2R8

I'll grant you, if you've no prior knowledge of Team Unicorn and what they're about then that one clip above probably isn't enough to give you a fair idea. The video I've linked to here might be a better example. There's even a shout-out to Joss and Firefly. Plus you get to see Seth Green rap!

The thing is though, the 'unintelligent boner material' assumption was made purely on the basis of Clare and Rileah's choice of attire for the sketch in the original clip, rather than the entirety of what they do. If you're going to make that assumption then at least have the decency to check out more of their work to see what they are really about before stating your opinion. They absolutely have no problem with showing off their bodies but their material is far from unintelligent and not remotely sleazy.

Five Horizons | May 06, 23:35 CET

no, that would've been dishonest, because I do think that it's softporn, and nothing more than that. well, it's also tasteless and lame.



that is your opinion. see, this is how it works: you express your opinion and I express mine. you know why? because you have your brain and I've got mine. I don't have to respect anyone for what they do. certainly not in this case when I think it's trash.

you can go ahead and feel all sophisticated about your boners, if it helps you in any way.

Tsuliwaensis | May 07, 15:54 CET

So you didn't bother to check out the other link I posted then? You're just going to continue to talk rubbish about something you clearly haven't got much of a clue about. The fact you continue to refer to it as softcore porn makes that pretty clear. An opinion is only really worth anything if it's an informed one, but I'm done trying to change your mind with, y'know, facts...

Not entirely sure why you feel the need to be quite so rude and insulting towards what I'm trying to say and what Team Unicorn do, but that's your choice. One last thing I will say... No you don't HAVE to respect anyone for what they do, but it wouldn't hurt you to do so. You make the choice to be nasty and antagonistic about something you don't really know much about. That says a lot more about you than the original video says about the girls of Team Unicorn, believe me.

Five Horizons | May 07, 16:34 CET

I watched that video back when it came out and I do remember that it made me uncomfortable, then sad and then angry. pretty much the same as this one. I also looked at the site you linked before and was immediately reminded of the movie "sucker punch". I don't know if you think that that's empowering too... but I guess you would. I'm just sick of the image of women being nothing but pretty and sexy and childlike and cute. and naked of course. it's dehumanizing.

I don't have anything against porn though, and I don't want to deny anyone their boners. go, get them. but seriously, there is SO MUCH porn out there, isn't that enough?

it just makes me sad. and angry. every once in a while you find real women in pop culture and it's like christmas in my brain. shouldn't that be the norm? well, the norm still is the male fantasy.

so, I'm sorry... but a bunch of half naked women catering to the male fantasy "ironically" just doesn't do it for me. and quite frankly every once in a while I'm a little baffled why it is that men don't feel insulted by being treated like that.

Tsuliwaensis | May 07, 20:35 CET

Again though, you are the only one that immediately keeps jumping onto the 'porn' aspect, which I dispute is even there in the first place. A naked girl (or guy for that matter) is not porn. Girls in underwear and wet t-shirts isn't porn either. Nothing that Team Unicorn do is porn. At all! I won't dispute that they are easy on the eye and not exactly unpleasant to see but if you honestly imagine that seeing girls in slightly revealing clothing is enough to excite me then you must think I'm about twelve years old. The girls look great to me, I won't even try to pretend otherwise, but porn or 'boner material' these clips are not. Not even close! Sexy, yes! Titillating, perhaps! Porn? No!

I like what Team Unicorn do generally. They make me laugh. Some of the stuff they have done has been genuinely hilarious. I think they are extremely talented and funny young ladies who also happen to be very attractive. The fact that they have excellent taste in television, movies and other cool stuff is an added bonus. I watch their vids because they entertain me, not to be turned on. There is a world of difference between enjoying the sight of attractive women in sexy outfits and being sexually stimulated. Unless, as I said before, you happen to be twelve.

I stand by what I said earlier in the thread about it being unfair to judge all Team Unicorn do on the basis that they enjoy wearing skimpy outfits on occasion and making the most of the fact that they are incredibly gorgeous women. It isn't porn and frankly there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. There is so much more to them than that. A Very Zombie Holiday is brilliant and you see practically no skin at all! ;)

Five Horizons | May 07, 22:11 CET

alright, yeah... I can see your point. if I lived in a world that catered to my every need and I wouldn't even care how that makes everybody else feel, I probably wouldn't want anything to change either.

Tsuliwaensis | May 08, 03:33 CET

Wow! Seriously? That's what you get from my previous comment? Really?

That'll be me not wasting any more of my time on this conversation then...

Five Horizons | May 08, 04:33 CET