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June 10 2012

Did Joss slip a Firefly Easter Egg into The Avengers? The article suggests that during a moment in the film when Hawkeye shows a picture of Iridium to someone, that the "rock" Iridium is shaped like the Serenity.

This may have been posted before (the article is six weeks old), but I don't recall seeing it. If you read the comments, someone grabbed a screen-shot of the "Iridium" moment for comparison. Anyone else notice this? (I haven't seen The Avengers yet, so can't speak to it, but thought it was cool if true).

The comments also suggest that there are a lot of Firefly easter eggs (shots of Serenity) in Battlestar Galactica. I've seen the whole series and didn't notice. Anyone else?
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[ edited by Jaymii on 2012-06-10 18:04 ]
The Battlestar Galactica ones ARE there, specifically in the miniseries. I don't recall exactly when Serenity appears though.
Screenshot or it didn't happen. There was a Firefly in BSG yeah, check Youtube.
In the BSG mini-series, when Roslin is consulting with the doctor, you can see a variety of ships flying past the window, one of which is Serenity, put there by ZOIC, who did special effects for both.
I do know there's at least one Buffy easter egg. Shawarma. Pretty much taken directly from the anecdote about how Nick Brendon got the part of Xander. As told by Joss in the BtVS box set bonus disc retrospective roundtable.
Here's the pic of Serenity in BSG. samatwitch is right, it's in the pilot.
Is it made out of pots and pans?
The Firefly shot in BC is in the pilot and can be seen passing by through a window with the POV from inside.
Bunnies -- screenshot is in the comments of the linked article.
@GreatMuppetyOdin I heard the shawarma stuff came from Downey Jr, so either he was given a little help there by Joss with it or he just REALLY likes Shawarma enough to form a coincidence.
I remember seeing a link to the same page or a similar one about this Easter egg...and the shot does look rather similar to the shot of Serenity sitting derelict in the ship lot during Out of Gas, due to her engines being folded down for space or maintenance purposes.

Just wish I remembered the link, though I know someone posted it at Fireflyfans.net as part of a thread about this topic...
Yes, it does. I remember this, and I looked on my second & third showing. It shows up when he holds up the pad. The rock is turning, and at one point it looks like Serenity. It's pretty quick, but it certainly looks like it. It'll be easier to see when we get the DVD and can pause :)
Dude Meister: From what I heard, what happened was RDJ felt the moment needed something extra, and Joss suggested the Shawarma bit, which clearly he's been holding on to since 1997.
Clearly? Really? Its possible he just likes Shawarma. It isn't exactly a rare thing in Los Angeles.
The Buffy roundtable bonus disc was recorded well after the show ended. There, Joss brought up the Shawarma anecdote (where, by the description, it sounded extremely similar to Iron Man's line in the movie) enthusiastically, without being prompted. If you have the box set, check out the bonus disc. It's no coincidence, I assure you.
Mmh, I watched the movie a couple times and never noticed the Iridium Serenity -- did anyone else? The screenshot seems too blurry to me to be certain whether it's just wishful thinking...
I watched for it specifically the second time, I think it's a case of wishful thinking.
I watched for it specifically the second time, I think it's a case of wishful thinking.

Simon | June 10, 22:27 CET


Probably a little bit of both, I imagine...the shot of the Iridium looking like Serenity is only a small number of frames of the animation and you have to be looking at it carefully. Same for the pots and pans in Dr. Horrible's kitchen looking like our favourite cargo vessel...just gotta have the mind on the right wavelength ;)
How is that a little bit of both? That's actually exactly "wishful thinking", just like the pots were.
hacksaway: Is it made out of pots and pans?

Ahhahahaha. I'd totally forgotten about the Dr. Horrible "Serenity-in-the-pots-and-pans" FanFuffle, (shown to be random pots-and-pans by a shot at another angle, and then definitively exploded by Lair owner Jonathan Reilly himself.

(BTW, here are some of the Buffy Easter eggs - scroll down to "Q. Where are the "Easter Eggs" on the US DVDs?")

Putting the "Serenity" in The Avengers doesn't seem like a very Joss thing to do - but it's conceivable that someone in production did it. I'm inclined to think it's the Wishful Mirage Scenario, myself...
How is that a little bit of both? That's actually exactly "wishful thinking", just like the pots were.

The One True b!X | June 10, 23:31 CET


Maybe it's a differing view on the idea of "wishful thinking", b!X but I would classify the term as meaning something having a specific intention or appearance when the odds of such a thing being true are very small.

So, two productions where Joss Whedon is involved in a major role having props or imagery used that seemingly refer to an important person/place/thing from a 3rd Whedon property (i.e. Dr. Horrible's pots & pans or the iridium sample looking like Serenity)? I am willing to have at least some middling level of belief that the designs were intentional by the set designers or prop makers. Something completely oxymoronic like Disney animators making a dust cloud during an animal stampede in The Lion King spell out "SEX"? Takes a lot more work to sell me on the concept, even if turns out to be true :D

Putting the "Serenity" in The Avengers doesn't seem like a very Joss thing to do - but it's conceivable that someone in production did it. I'm inclined to think it's the Wishful Mirage Scenario, myself...

QuoterGal | June 10, 23:41 CET


No, it doesn't seem like him, does it? I know I remember that he was shooting to avoid any Easter eggs or wink-nudge references to other sci-fi works in Serenity but the design crew still threw in Forbidden Planet with the Alliance exploration vessel that the crew find Dr. Caron's message within having the designator "C57D" (which is the ID of the ship Leslie Nielsen and co. arrive on Altair IV aboard).

So, we could always blame the VFX crew or something :P
The ship in Prometheus is a little bit Serenity-like.
If you want to see for yourself, from the comments -

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7034/ywjzr.png
BlueEyedBrigadier: So, two productions where Joss Whedon is involved in a major role having props or imagery used that seemingly refer to an important person/place/thing from a 3rd Whedon property (i.e. Dr. Horrible's pots & pans or the iridium sample looking like Serenity)? I am willing to have at least some middling level of belief that the designs were intentional by the set designers or prop makers.

Yet I don't see how there's any wiggle room for "belief" on the Dr. Horrible/"Serenity pots-and-pans assemblage" when the owner of the Lair specifically debunks it. (That was just one of the threads where it was discussed ad nauseum.) He was present at & involved with the shoot, and would've known if the pots had been re-arranged to look like the Serenity. He confirms it here on his blog.

And as I've linked above, a shot of another angle of the hanging cookware makes it clear they're just Random Hanging Pots (and not a Cigar.)

Not really open to interpretation or this kind of speculation any more, unless you think the owner of the Lair is mistaken or misleading.
Something completely oxymoronic like Disney animators making a dust cloud during an animal stampede in The Lion King spell out "SEX"? Takes a lot more work to sell me on the concept, even if turns out to be true :D
BlueEyedBrigadier | June 10, 23:48 CET


Lion King spells out "SFX", put there by the special effects people (you know, what SFX means). It got spread that it said sex, but that's been debunked and there is clearly no bottom to the 'F'. (Now, the phallic image in the tower of Little Mermaid...that was a real hidden thing...)
Honestly, the fact that the pots and pans thing was unintentional makes it even more amazing.
The piece of iridium is clearly someone having sneaked in a picture of pots and pans.
The rock is supposed to look like Serenity?

I thought it looked more like "Darth Vader guitar girl".
Ben is Glory?
I read on the internet that the director's cut will feature 45 extra minutes of Summer Glau flying Serenity.
Sunfire, right there with you on Prometheus, I can't help but wonder if it's a shout out to Serenity's Weyland roots.
Don't forget that Dr. Horrible also included Sarah Michelle Gellar in a non-speaking cameo too!
@QuoterGal: I was merely pointing out that I personally am willing to believe that something like the pots and pans in the Lair's kitchen or the picture of the iridium sample could be Easter eggs based on the odds being somewhere in the neighbourhood of feasible but still kinda unlikely compared to other urban legends or stories of hidden references. Yeah, the pots were a dead-end or sheer dumb luck the camera was aimed a certain way. Dunno about the rock sample until one of the VFX guys get grilled and they say something to support or debunk it :P
BrewBunny: Don't forget that Dr. Horrible also included Sarah Michelle Gellar in a non-speaking cameo too!

Ha. Yeah, I fell for that one, until crewmember & Whedonesquer bobw1o and then Joss both debunked it.

Some things are either true or false, and not really subject to opinion once the facts are in.
Some things are either true or false, and not really subject to opinion once the facts are in.
I subject that to my opinion!
; ]

In my opinion *you* are factually incorrect.

I can't help it, dude - that's just the way I feel.
I feel that you guys are attacking my belief system with your insistence on using terms like 'facts' to disprove my articles of faith in the prevalence of Serenity popping up in ALL of Joss (my one true god) Whedon's work!
embers, your post sent me looking back in the archives for various discussions of "Is Joss God or Not What The Hell?" and I found The God Thread That Would Not Die Until It was Shanked in the Back By catherine, eugooglized by Saje and buried in a Brisk Viking Ceremony accompanied by Stunning Po'try by BreathesStory.

It's worth a read or re-read , as the case may be, right through to the end, if you've got a bit of time. It made me nostalgic for Threads Like Those, and raise a glass for Absent Friends Sorely Missed.

*drinks*
Awww. Poor ole thread. Good ole days. sniff. *drinks*

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