June 15 2012
Neil DeGrasse Tyson investigates the space science of summer movies.
Neil deGrasse Tyson briefly talks about the science in three movies, Prometheus, Men In Black 3 and The Avengers. It doesn't seem to be spoilery. The Avengers part starts after 3:40 if you're listening, but it's basically the same as what's in the bottom of the article.
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the ninja report | June 15, 15:07 CET
CMN | June 15, 15:21 CET
Winchester | June 15, 15:32 CET
steverogers | June 15, 16:46 CET
Odin: Thor Odinson, my heir, my first born. So long entrusted with the mighty hammer, Mjöllnir, forged in the heart of a dying star. It's power has no equal! It's a weapon to destroy or as a tool to build. It is a fit companion for a king. I have defended Asgard, and the lives of the innocent across my realms in the time of the great beginning.
the ninja report | June 15, 16:52 CET
1) The given quote says "forged in the heart of a dying star," not made of matter obtained from a dying star. Is Tyson doing his own extrapolating, or are there other quotes backing him up?
2) Was this something the screenwriters dreamed up, or does anyone better versed than I in Marvel lore know of any prior references to this origin of Mjolnir? Obviously it's not from the Norse legends. Who exactly are we supposed to imagine setting up blacksmith shop in the heart of a dying star?
3) It would seem that the cosmic rule set determining who can yield Mjolnir has to have a bit more content than simply "one who is worthy of the power," right? I mean, Thor's great and all, but he's not on a unique plane of moral worthiness. My tentative theory is that Odin had some sort of cosmic title in Mjolnir which he transferred to Thor, giving Thor the exclusive ability to wield it--an ability that is however defeasible should Thor not be worthy. Anybody know of anything disproving this theory?
CMN | June 15, 17:14 CET
CMN | June 15, 17:18 CET
Dr. Tyson has an anecdote he's shared often. Some years ago, he was in the theater to see Superman. That's the one where Superman flies around the Earth to reverse it. He says that his girlfriend at the time leaned over and asked "could that really happen?" And his reply to her was something along the lines of, "you're watching a guy who wears his underwear on the outside and he's flying around the planet...and that's your question?"
So let's say that a mythical god-like being could travel into the core of a dying star, forge a mystical hammer in said core of dying star...and return with it to grant its powers to another mythical god-like being. Maybe our question of "could the matter of a dying star get into Thor's hammer" is a little too far gone. :)
the ninja report | June 15, 18:01 CET
But obviously I didn't express myself clearly. My actual question isn't about plausibility, just about canon. I have no problem with the idea that Mjolnir COULD be made from stellar material, I was just questioning the origin of the notion that it WAS.
CMN | June 15, 20:03 CET