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June 17 2012

Kristy Swanson in 'Operation Cupcake'. The movie premiered on the Hallmark Channel yesterday and will air twice today.

Does anyone actually care?

XD
Gotta give respect to Buffy 1.0!
Admittedly, Kristy's really the only actor or actress from the Buffy film that has her work and life discussed around these parts - don't recall anything about Luke Perry and I'm pretty it's one of the unwritten golden rules that nothing Kiefer Sutherland's dad will get discussed here because of Joss' feeling about him - but we discuss stuff featuring people who only did guest shots on any of the Whedonverse shows all the time. And we're probably gonna track The Avengers cast pretty tightly...

;D
I think the interest in Kristy is because she was the first version of our beloved Slayer. None of the other characters from the movie got a TV version, so the actors don't matter as much to the Whedonverse. (I'm just hypothesizing here.)

However, I can't quite understand the "rules" concerning other guest stars - Christina Hendricks gets mentioned a lot, but not TJ Thyne. An argument can be made for following the actors from Avengers over, say, Rafael Feldman (Fantastic "Fanty" Mingo), because of the epicness of the movie, and the amount of screen time.

BTW, I just saw a young Kristy in Hot Shots! - she played Kowalski.

"Eagle River!?!"
Kristy's still my favorite Buffy. She probably always will be!
Maybe it's time for Whedonesque to introduce a new filtering system (main and recurring stars only or broadened to guest stars? Or maybe a system to specify preferences to certain collaborators... hm that sounds like a lot of work)? I'm not trying to say the website is outdated, but...

Edit for specificity: I mean anyone with an account could "opt out" of collaborators they aren't interested in. So anyone without an account would see all the posts, anyone who hasn't opted out of certain collaborators will also see all the posts, but if you uncheck the box for Kristy Swanson, you won't see those updates. Would call for a more detailed tagging system too.

[ edited by Mitholas on 2012-06-17 21:28 ]
ShadowQuest, I think the Feldman brothers get mentioned a lot here because they show love to the fandom. I'm not sure TJ Thyne is getting ignored - I like him as an actor, but I rarely see interviews with him, so there may just not be that much to link to in his case (he's still on "Bones," but since he's been on it since the beginning, that would only be news if he left).

ETA: BlueEyedBrigadier, I think you mean Donald Sutherland - I've never heard Joss Whedon expressing any sentiments, positive or negative, about Kiefer Sutherland and (so far as I know) they've never worked together. "Buffy"/"Angel" writers Howard Gordon and David Fury were both on "24," though (and TJ Thyne had a guest arc).

[ edited by Shapenew on 2012-06-17 21:45 ]

[ edited by Shapenew on 2012-06-17 21:48 ]
ETA: BlueEyedBrigadier, I think you mean Donald Sutherland - I've never heard Joss Whedon expressing any sentiments, positive or negative, about Kiefer Sutherland and (so far as I know) they've never worked together. "Buffy"/"Angel" writers Howard Gordon and David Fury were both on "24," though (and TJ Thyne had a guest arc).

Yeah, Shapenew, I did...and that's what I wrote - "...that nothing Kiefer Sutherland's dad will get discussed here because of Joss' feeling about him - in an attempt to be circumspect in my reference of the elder Mr. Sutherland due to Joss's issues with him. I guess my attempt at humour failed spectacularly, huh?

:P
I've just been mentally comparing the amount of time it takes to click on the topic, write a snarky riposte in the comment box, hit preview, then post, against the amount of time it takes to move your eyes an inch down the page to the next article heading.

Of course my own post could be held to the same standard now. Hmm... :)

I always thought Kristy Swanston was a really good Buffy, hampered by a somewhat poorly executed film (and from all reports an arrogant prima donna co-star)
(cough) I don't know who TJ Thyne is..was he RJ? (heads over to Google) I'm a bad Whedon fan.
TJ Thyne is Hodgens on Bones. He was in 3 Angel Season 5 episodes as an unnamed W&H lawyer.
BlueEyedBrigadier, my apologies. I read it as "Kiefer Sutherland *did*" not "Kiefer Sutherland's *dad.*" Oops! I feel like Roseanne Roseannadanna ...
ShadowQuest - Christina Hendricks played a central role in 2 Firefly episodes while TJ Thyne played unnamed W&H lawyers in a few Angel episodes. Based on that information, who would you say was more important to Joss Whedon's body of work?
Yefa, Shapenew I was using those names as examples, because they were the first ones that came to mind. I honestly don't know how often any of them are mentioned here. My point was some actors who have had minor roles in one show get a lot of mention, while others don't. And I only brought it up because someone earlier made a "who cares?" comment about the original Buffy.

To me, Christophe Beck, Robert Duncan, Douglas Romayne and Rob Kral are fairly important contributors to the Whedonverse. And yet posts about other musical work they've done is often met with "Who now?" or silence.

There don't seem to be any hard and fast rules about who can get posted about here - any connection to the Whedonverse seems to count; it's ultimately up to the mods if it qualifies or not.
The "internet rule" seems to be that one should be as cynical and sarcastic as possible at all times.

Despite the occasional outlier, I would like to think that us Whedon fans might rise a rung or two above that standard :) If I want poorly thought-out snark I'll read youtube comments :P

BTW, Agree wholeheartedly on Beck, Duncan, Romayne & Kral (although I have to admit I did have to google two of them - Beck seems to get all the props!)
I'm not sure how "hard and fast" the rules really are on it. (I mean, we ran Yma Sumac's obit based on one line in "OMWF."
It seems to be largely driven by the interests of those of us who can post here. Mercedes's acting jobs, when she has them anymore, are usually covered, but unlike most of the other regulars nobody posts her birthday. Amy Adams and K. Todd Freeman, who only guest-starred once each, seem to have had a lot more posts (in the time I've been here) than Adam Kaufamn, who had a substantial arc.
@DaddayCatAlso-I'm going to be that picky guy and mention that K. Todd Freeman was in 5 Buffy episodes.

Also, I never in a million years thought my little post about "Operation Cupcake" would cause such a stir!

[ edited by Jelly on 2012-06-18 14:13 ]
Jelly: SOrry, I meant Hinton Battle. Thanks for the catch. And yes, I can see how you'd be surprised.
I think what Whedonverse guest stars have done before/since then is a factor in how much focus there is on their other work here. Amy Adams and Hinton Battle were only in one BtVS episode each, but Amy Adams has a thriving film career that includes an Oscar nomination while Hinton Battle has won multiple Tony Awards. So it's not surprising that they'd still be mentioned here by various members of the site.

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