IDW Angel and Spike 50% off sale at Comixology.
Every issue of Angel and Spike published by IDW, plus most of the associated mini-series and one-shots, available to download at 99 cents each.
It says "over 150" but there's actually 'only' 117 unique issues. Sale goes on from the 6th to the 10th of August.
August 06 2012
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Are these collected anywhere else?
I want to make sure I don't buy doubles(some are recollected) or miss out on some extras though buying single issues(of course, some extras have extra material that isn't recollected).
So is the Lorne special or Yearbook collected somewhere?
Does the John Byrne collection have some extras? Otherwise I will buy Angel vs Frankenstein 1&2 seperately.
Is Masks collected somewhere else other than the Smile Time hardcover? I know that one has no extras, other than a art gallery.
Spike Lost and Found, Spike Old times & Spike Old wounds are collected in a omnibus simply called Spike. Does it have extras? Or are they collected somewhere else?
[ edited by Skytteflickan88 on 2012-08-06 14:51 ]
Skytteflickan88 | August 06, 05:12 CET
Bishop | August 06, 06:01 CET
So no, no definite list. But, here's some canon-ish books, in my opinion:
-Angel After the fall.
-Spike After the fall(written by the same author as Angel ATF)
-Spike Asylum and Shadow Puppets(has newcharacters that appear in Angel ATF).
-#23 of the main series, since it's by the same author as those previously listed, and it's called the epilouge for Angel ATF
-The 8 issue series by Brian Lynch since DarkHorse and IDW worked together on it, and it shows characters appearing in buffy Season 8.
Skytteflickan88 | August 06, 07:47 CET
The only ones that are offical are the 5 After Fall Books and the Spike series. All others were made without Joss. Anything not on this list were either published before the Season 8 concept or were considered "outside" the universe timeline.
With the exception of Aftermath Vol 5, I would strongly recommend all the books!
Angel: Barbary Coast (prequel to the "Angel" series)
Spike: Asylum
Spike : Shadow Puppets
Angel: After the Fall Vol. 1
Angel : After the Fall Vol. 2
Spike: After the Fall
Angel: After the Fall Vol. 3
Angel: After the Fall Vol. 4
Angel: Aftermath Vol. 5
Angel: Last Angel in Hell Vol. 6
Angel: Only Human
Music of the Spheres (Collected in Angel: The John Byrne Collection)
Angel: Immortality for Dummies Vol. 1
Spike: The Devil You Know
Angel: The Crown Prince Syndrome Vol. 2
Illyria: Haunted
Angel: The Wolf, the Ram, and the Heart Vol. 3
Spike Vol. 1
Spike Vol. 2
Angel: Yearbook (Collected in Angel: The End)
A_Leaf | August 06, 08:42 CET
The only IDW books Joss actually had a hand in was Angel After the fall and another non-canon(I wish i had the article where Joss discusses its canon status) series published before Angel After the fall. And that was actually over at Dark Horse.
And since there was very little cooperation between IDW and Dark Horse, it's like they exist in alternative universes. They weren't published to "fit" each other. Dark Horse and IDW just worked together on Angel after the fall(Joss co-wrote) and the 8 issue Spike series by Brian Lynch(not sure if Joss, or only Dark Horse's editor was involved).
If you would like some sources, I could find then after looking through some Q&A's. I wonder where you got your info, since it's very different from my understanding on the matter.
Skytteflickan88 | August 06, 09:04 CET
I'm inclined to accept the Brian Lynch stuff as kinda sorta vaguely canon, although there's nothing in the Dark Horse books that explicitly require it. (Can't say I've read much of the rest, I gave up on the series as it was so expensive and the artwork not to my taste.)
Does the canon status even really matter though - my favourite of the IDW books is the Illyria one-shot by Peter David and Nicola Scott, which came out a while before After the Fall.
[ edited by daylight on 2012-08-06 19:03 ]
daylight | August 06, 10:02 CET
To me, canon matters because I want to know the characters well. That includes knowing what did or didn't happen to them.
It can also be confusing, not knowing what the writers count as canon or not. It adds levels to a story, knowing if a writer takes certain comics into consideration or not. I wouldn't want a writer saying "Angel hates dragons" in a future Angel & Faith issue, because that writer hasn't thought of Angel After the fall. That would be confusing.
But I loved Spike: Asulym & Shadow Puppets way before it became canon-ish, so when it comes to enjoying a good story, canon doesn't matter. It's not like Dark Horse are likely to refer to any non-Angel After the fall comics.
Skytteflickan88 | August 06, 10:21 CET
My attitude is generally "it's canon, until it's not".
[ edited by daylight on 2012-08-06 19:54 ]
daylight | August 06, 10:53 CET
Yeah that's basically what I meant. IDW tried to keep it cannon and not contradict, nothing to do with Joss. There's an article where IDW was saying they tried to keep everything alligned with Darkhorse (without any actual collaboration) and were blind sided by the fact(spoilers!) that Angel was Twighlight.
A_Leaf | August 06, 11:30 CET
whedonfandavid | August 06, 12:29 CET
Ok, I see. And agree completely.
And that must have been nice to find out. "Let's see what's being said about one of our best selling titles online. Whaaaaaaaat!?!"
Skytteflickan88 | August 06, 12:34 CET
patxshand | August 06, 13:31 CET
And thanks to everyone for your help.
Bishop | August 06, 16:49 CET
I mostly agree with your list of titles.
Angel: After the Fall #1-17 are the only IDW Angel titles that are accepted as being fully canon.
However, I am willing to accept all of the Brian Lynch written books as being mostly canon: Spike Asylum #1-5, Spike Shadow Puppets #1-4 (since characters from these books made it into the canon After the Fall storyline), Spike: After the Fall #1-4, Angel #23-27, Angel Annual #1, Spike #1-8, and "This One Time" from the Angel Yearbook. Taken together, all of his Angel stories create a good bridge between the fifth season of Angel and the Eighth season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Since Lynch wrote After the Fall, I view him as being a Mutant Enemy writer and therefore put more weight behind his stories than most others, like how I can accept something like Dark Horse's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Haunted" series as being at least near-canonical since it was written by Jane Espenson and doesn't contradict any other canon material.
pacer | August 06, 21:57 CET
I agree with you, IDW run with Angel was great. It's a shame some won't touch the stuff because they are not "official". Yearbook was a great coda to the series btw :)
A_Leaf | August 07, 05:33 CET
Side note: Is anyone else sad that no one wants to touch Lorne? I understand they want to honor Andy Hallett but I really miss the character.
A_Leaf | August 07, 05:39 CET
I would recommend everything, but if you end up liking the Spotlight:Illyria one, and like Spike asa a character, Spike vs Dracula is a must read, by the same author. Auld Lang Syne is also one of the better pre-After the fall stories.
Skytteflickan88 | August 07, 06:19 CET