August 12 2012
Avengers: The Down Side Of Up.
Or why the success of The Avengers and the choice of director might hurt future genre movies and comic book movies in particular. The author makes some good points, although I sincerely hope he's wrong.
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Mare | August 12, 08:18 CET
[ edited by Mitholas on 2012-08-12 18:53 ]
Mitholas | August 12, 08:44 CET
I trust Marvel. They earned it with the recent movies. I trust Joss. He earned that trust a long time ago. I believe that they're going to do their best to tell great stories in a mostly internally consistent universe - with the occasionl ret-cons, recasting, and revisions. The business of Hollywood will be the thing that hurts them most (not being able to resign an actor at a reasonable rate, licensing disagreements, etc...), but I think within the constraints of Hollywood they're going to have skilled and professional artists working hard with adequate funding to make kick %$#@ movies and TV for us.
I eagerly await word on what the new TV series will be and when we'll see it (as well as if the Hulk will (against high odds) be in the MCU as well as Joss' new series - or as Joss' new series).
jgsugden | August 12, 08:51 CET
| August 12, 09:51 CET
I'm worried about DC, trying to rush out a Justice League film.
Like trying to build a skyscraper before the foundation has been made.
OneTeV | August 12, 10:19 CET
Sorry, but that was a wasted read.
N27 | August 12, 10:39 CET
KingofCretins | August 12, 11:32 CET
Tumnus | August 12, 13:28 CET
Now, I don't really think this is a particularly great post. But I do think it's probably a good idea to shy away from calling people morons because they disagree with us about films. (Especially if you're not going to bother actually reading what they have to say.)
There are plenty of other sites for that.
Knuckleball | August 12, 13:35 CET
Simon | August 12, 13:54 CET
For me, the glass is always half-full.
Madhatter | August 12, 14:50 CET
If the author's point is that Hollywood (in general) will learn the wrong lesson, by trying to copy the lowest denominator, then that is not specific to "The Avengers". I'm thinking of "Jaws", and all the monster movies it inspired, being made even today. (Let alone the three Jaws sequels.)
That's one reason why I'm glad Joss is handling the sequel. He will remind the execs that with good writing and quality, they can build on what they have already. Rather than try to milk it dry (and destroy the existing good will).
[ edited by OneTeV on 2012-08-12 23:54 ]
OneTeV | August 12, 14:53 CET
Sorry if you disagree with the article and thought it was a waste of time. Different strokes for different folks.
Boto | August 12, 15:06 CET
MrArg | August 12, 15:29 CET
And I love Tim Burton's style on original projects while I absolutely hated his take on Willy Wonka.
None of these facts make any difference to the fact that the article was thoughtful and astute.
lottalettuce | August 12, 15:43 CET
Bats!! Must bring a lager swadder!
Madhatter | August 12, 20:11 CET
[ edited by AMCsoldier on 2012-08-13 05:58 ]
AMCsoldier | August 12, 20:57 CET
gossi | August 13, 00:17 CET
daylight | August 13, 02:42 CET
phoenix012 | August 13, 04:34 CET
After the first few large cross-overs (like "Secret Wars") made money, the bean counters kept pushing it. Now its hard to find stories that *don't* involve multiple heroes and titles. The Marvel Universe feels so much smaller now. What used to be extraordinary is now commonplace. And the traditional stories, which used to be worthwhile by themselves, are sometimes just place holders until the next "event".
OneTeV | August 13, 04:37 CET
It is true that roomsful of suits usually make exactly the wrong conclusion from the success or failure of any project they run.
This writer needs to learn not to lead off his geek-culture articles with statements that will make the majority of geeks instantly hate his guts, though... especially when those statements have very little relevance to the topic of the article. Being controversial isn't an asset when it makes people stop reading after your first paragraph.
AndrewCrossett | August 13, 05:08 CET
“It’s like Jaws but…”: 14 great films that inspired regrettable trends
http://www.avclub.com/articles/its-like-jaws-but-16-great-films-that-inspired-reg,83688
(Yes, I know that the article title has 14, but the link has 16. Go figure.)
OneTeV | August 13, 07:29 CET
barboo | August 13, 07:46 CET
sweet8 | August 13, 12:45 CET
Bunnies | August 14, 07:54 CET
redeem147 | August 14, 13:56 CET
Of course with the movies they only come out once in a while, one pretty much follows on from the other (without them being interdependent in any way), and most of the people who see them have usually already seen all of them - so it's not as much of a problem there, and the massive mega-crossover of The Avengers - the first of its kind perhaps - comes across as a legitimate event.
daylight | August 17, 13:04 CET