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September 02 2012

The Avengers takes $1.5 billion worldwide. That's phenomenal.

Joss needs to go into Fox with big bags of that cash, like Julia Roberts. "big mistake. huge."
Awesome achievement, numbers-wise. But, to be fair, they were like 30 mil away from 1.5 bil before they released in Japan so it was to be expected.

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We always knew it.
Oh my goodness.
And it deserves EVERY penny. :D

I'm going to see it again on Monday!!!
I'm honestly clapping here.
Joss Whedon directed Avengers, which grossed $1.7 million for the weekend for a new domestic total of $619.5 million. Overseas, the pic's cume is now $874 million.

619.5 + 874 = 1493.5

They're jumping the gun a bit early aren't they? Still a wee bit to go before hitting the milestone.
BoxOfficeMojo has the number actually over 1.5 already (with an overseas box office of 882 mil.). - overseas total is $882 million.
I think that rereleasing 'Avengers' in a lot more theaters for Labor Day weekend was a really smart move. So many of the films that have been in our local theaters are movies with really low ratings at rottentomatoes (ie not movies I would want to pay to see in the theater), but going out to the movies on a long weekend is always fun.... There should always be some good family entertainment available (and Joss' big hit is just the ticket!).
I was looking forward to seeing it again this weekend, but our theatre is only showing the 3D version. I'm not a fan of 3D anything as it gives me an awful headache.
And we may still get that Director's Cut in theaters. Maybe.. please?
@Sigfodr: The version in theaters is the Director's Cut. Everybody took that quote from Joss out of context. There is no other version.
Yeah, I corrected some people complaining that the DVD release wasn't a director's cut on Amazon. This is the director's cut and there will almost certainly never be a longer cut of this film. Just go with it.

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The "Director's Cut" story from earlier this year was from a comic book fansite saying they would like to see one, which somehow got morphed into a mainstream story saying it was totally going to happen.
My mistake, I suppose. I thought I had seen or read an interview with Joss in which he said the original version was way too long. He then said the version he cut it down to was his accepted version. "The" movie. But he also had a fantasy world in which the three hour version would be released somewhere down the road.
What!? Whedon fans would never do that!


I am very, very happy that Avengers came back this weekend to bookend the "summer of Joss". And I'm very pleased about the financials and how this success will empower Joss to follow his muse... wherever it may lead him.
That was the version that just the screenplay brought to film. The very screenplay that he was making up as he was directing along (and not realising it was way too long). It was always going to get a lot cut out of it; a great deal of it's probably redundant.
Sigfodr, I wasn't snarking at you, so apologies :) It's entirely possible he said that and I missed it. It was 3 hours long at one stage, anyhoo. But I'd be surprised if they ever put out that version. 3 hours seems like a loooong time in my world.
“My first cut was three hours long and it’s now down to 2 hours and 15 minutes, and I’m extremely proud of that. I had always intended to go over two, under two and a half. There was no way a movie with this many great actors and this much epic scope was gonna clock in under two and not feel a little anemic, somebody wasn’t gonna get their moment if that happened. But at the same time, I get very angry that romantic comedies run over two hours long, it’s like ‘Guys, that’s not okay.’ More isn’t more. I don’t want anything in the movie that shouldn’t be.”

Theres another article where he says the theatrical cut is the director's cut but I can't find it right now.
And I am going to go see it again in an hour. :D
THR might want to amend the first line of that article where it says it hit $1.5 million. That would be less impressive.

(And I don't think they mean the weekend's takings, as that's given later as $1.7 million.)
Just back from seeing it for the 3rd time. Theater was maybe a third full, but everyone there was a fan. Tons of laughter at the all the jokey bits & applause at the end. It was fun.
As much as this delights me, I don't think THE AVENGERS was 1.4 billion dollars plus better than SERENITY. While I'm ecstatic that the film has achieved such incredible success and that Joss is now A-List in every sense of the word, it is still a shame that the earlier stuff never found the same kind of huge audiences. As much as I enjoyed THE AVENGERS, it isn't BUFFY or FIREFLY. Still, this film pretty much paves the way for him to write his own ticket in Hollywood.

I think back to 2006, when he had no TV shows in the offing and SERENITY was already out and he was only writing comic books. I remember wondering if he would even do TV or film again. Such an explosion of stuff since then.
Serenity didn't have The Hulk punching a guy into a building wall, Njal. (Avengers was an easier, quicker sell than Firefly).
" But at the same time, I get very angry that romantic comedies run over two hours long, it’s like ‘Guys, that’s not okay.’ More isn’t more. "

Joss speaks the truth. The wife and I were watching "The 5 year Engagement" last night, and we were thinking it was getting late and time for bed, and I'm like "There's another hour to go?" It felt like it was heading for a conclusion, but no, another hour. We went to bed.
I agree on that one. Lust for Love is currently 94 minutes and I'm all "No more!". I like my pace pacey.
Having seen the deleted scenes from the DVD, I have to say that I agree 100% with Joss. While interesting, they deserved to go, for the sake of the story. Especially the Cobie Smulders bookending scene. Neat, but screwed with the pacing. You could've talked me into including some of the Captain America stuff, but not all of it. The Hulk-Security Guard stuff was good, but still felt weird and messed with pacing, so I'm fine with all that being gone, as long as we got to see it for fun.

Put me firmly in the "no Director's Cut" needed category.
Re: runtime, 2h15 is definitely my personal cap. 1h45 is a perfect length for most films, especially romantic comedies, but 2h15 fitted this very well. I saw TDKR last week, and I really feel a good half-hour could have been chucked out without losing development or plot.
If Serenity had starred Robert Downey, Jr it would have made a lot more money (I love Chiwetel Ejiofor, but his name didn't sell a single ticket back in 2005). Heck if Serenity had just been called 'Spaceship' it would have made more money (a lot of teenaged boys thought the film was a chick flick). So yeah, I agree that Serenity was actually a better movie, but Avengers is the big break through blockbuster hit.
I personally can't judge which film - Serenity or The Avengers - is the better one because, while there's a lot of shared themes/tropes, there's enough differences based on the base genre that you have to change things to fit better based on necessity.

I can see why Joss (I think) mentioned war films like The Dirty Dozen for thematic references when discussing The Avengers, since we have Samuel L. Jackson having to break out his best Lee Marvin to corral his chosen bunch of roughnecks into a team and the various interpersonal conflicts. Serenity kept its Western underpinnings, but added thriller/horror/war film elements with the Operative hunting the BDHs down for River or the siege on Mr. Universe's Moon.

So...anybody think that Serenity's revenues are gonna possibly start climbing a bit more sharply with people wanting to check out Joss' other works, now that The Avengers has crossed the 1.5B mark? Hell, while it's highly unlikely, Universal could do worse than let Serenity get a cinematic re-release, especially if they did as a 100th Anniversary promo thing like they're doing with chunks of their back catalogue on BR and DVD ;P
...but Serenity had an enormous spaceship fight in mid-air...
I agree, BlueEyedBrigadier. You just can't compare the two, especially in dollar amounts. They were created on very different foundations. Serenity had very little exposure to work from, compared to Avengers. Avengers was never not going to succeed. People just didn't expect it to succeed so much.

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