"The getting of knowledge should be tangible. It should be, um, smelly."
September 03
2012
Whedon protestors at Dragon*Con.
Down with this sort of thing.
Simon
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"At least FOX never killed someone."
That's the funniest thing I've heard all week.
Mitholas | September 03, 08:51 CET
Pointy | September 03, 09:06 CET
mouse | September 03, 09:13 CET
D-e-f- | September 03, 09:13 CET
Sigfodr | September 03, 09:18 CET
Revello | September 03, 09:21 CET
ZodKneelsFirst | September 03, 09:28 CET
jkalderash | September 03, 09:31 CET
This is a great idea. Wish I could be at Dragon*Con this year!
Like With Pie | September 03, 09:41 CET
embers | September 03, 09:49 CET
Lioness | September 03, 09:57 CET
unDeadhead | September 03, 10:07 CET
Simon | September 03, 10:12 CET
At any rate, I love this idea! And on a side note, this made me and my partner start an out-loud Fight Club riff: "His name was Agent Coulson! His name was Agent Coulson!"
[ edited by Mare on 2012-09-03 20:52 ]
Mare | September 03, 11:44 CET
Anyway, I think the frequency with which Joss kills people, and the selection of whom to kill, is usually about right for achieving maximum dramatic and narrative payoff, with some notable exceptions (see, e.g., Anya).
Squishy | September 03, 11:55 CET
lisatwingomez | September 03, 12:01 CET
Dana5140 | September 03, 12:10 CET
lisatwingomez | September 03, 12:15 CET
I was upset at fans who flipped out when 'Serenity' first came out (going around spoiling innocent people because they were mad at Joss). But this display is kind of funny and even kind of interesting. I could see fans haunting Joss by dressing up as our favorite dead characters (I've always longed for zombie Penny and/or zombie Wesley).
embers | September 03, 12:26 CET
hann23 | September 03, 12:26 CET
lisatwingomez | September 03, 13:45 CET
My way of looking at that one - Spartacus (the show) killed more main characters in one 13 episode season than Joss did in his 298 episodes of television.
gossi | September 03, 13:48 CET
IrrationaliTV | September 03, 14:15 CET
gossi | September 03, 14:22 CET
Sunfire | September 03, 14:48 CET
The menfolk have obvious wounds on them which indicates how their characters died but it's fuzzier with the women. (I also can't remember which arm was mangled re: possible Bennett.
If the pigtail girl were Tara it makes sense since both their shirts were blue but Tara didn't have any pattern (nor any blood splatters). Maybe Jenny Calendar?
orangewaxlion | September 03, 14:57 CET
Mikelle Vein | September 03, 15:06 CET
Dunno about the picket joke one way or the other.
Shapenew | September 03, 15:19 CET
Erbine | September 03, 15:39 CET
Dana5140 | September 03, 16:15 CET
IrrationaliTV | September 03, 16:35 CET
And it tickled me a bit too.
madmolly | September 03, 17:30 CET
azzers | September 03, 19:19 CET
Re: death... I'd say we should be careful what we wish for. Joss may well start coming up with ways characters we love live horribly.
And I love this. I bet Joss would too, familiar with the picket line as he is.
ManEnoughToAdmitIt | September 03, 22:30 CET
Maclay | September 04, 00:53 CET
daylight | September 04, 03:09 CET
Dana5140 | September 04, 03:54 CET
I never got the immense hate Riley/Marc Blucas had to endure, for instance. I didn't think he was right for Buffy, but the character was a good guy and therefore I saw no reason to hate him (well... maybe until the sucking thing). The amount of people cursing him JUST BECAUSE they can't get over the idea of Buffy and Angel is completely incomprehensible to me. Things change, deal with it. If you can't deal with that on a tv show, I can't imagine how you deal with change in your own life.
Not to mention the amount of complaining they'd be doing if the writers had kept the relationship going just because the fans liked it and it had gone stale.
Mitholas | September 04, 07:24 CET
barboo | September 04, 07:57 CET
And as for the whole discussion about Joss killing beloved characters, nobody ever seems to mention how many characters he allows to live! The glass is half full people!
alexreager | September 04, 08:02 CET
There are some fans out there who really, really like fanfiction universes that fuel this. I have nothing against fanfic, but I think sometimes it starts to replace reality for some people, or at least the reality of how they view Joss' fictional universe.
the ninja report | September 04, 08:11 CET
IrrationaliTV | September 04, 10:30 CET
@theonetruebix | September 04, 10:42 CET
embers | September 04, 11:01 CET
Back to my incredibly dense and poorly detailed point: People invest. That's why they care. And they invest because it meets a need, likely one that remains subconscious. In some cases, they project into a character or a relationship. When an author then ends it, it has an impact beyond just good story telling. It can hurt people emotionally, ergo witness Kittens, for example. So the idea that characters can die, are not safe, is nothing new, but the how makes the difference. You think things would have been quiet had Angel remained dead?
Dana5140 | September 04, 14:12 CET
On the flip side, I believe that the number of deaths in some shows is far too high. Grey's Anatomy, for example, has lost an ridiculous number of doctors to plane crashes, bus crashes, shootings...unless Seattle is a very dangerous place, it seems excessive.
Like With Pie | September 04, 15:38 CET
Others who have died were either guest stars who played doctors, police officers, etc. or were patients, and death can be expected in a hospital show. I don't think the death count among the cast of Grey's Anatomy has been ridiculous. More doctors have left the show than have been killed off.
ETA: Seattle is definitely not a very dangerous place. But like ER, the show depicts a busy hospital in the city. Things happen. And it's TV, so they happen more frequently than in reality.
[ edited by the ninja report on 2012-09-05 01:15 ]
the ninja report | September 04, 16:14 CET
Besides, I have more important bones to pick (ha) with Grey's Anatomy than the death toll.
Like With Pie | September 04, 16:28 CET
DaddyCatALSO | September 05, 03:54 CET
barboo | September 05, 05:37 CET
Also, it's probably good to point out that Grey's Anatomy has this nighttime soap aspect to it, which means it can be even more dramatic than, say, ER.
the ninja report | September 05, 06:37 CET
He did the same thing in Firefly with Kaylee, but by then we had years of watching his work and could fully believe that he would kill off a "main" character that quickly.He does occasionally use this rep to his advantage.
Lioness | September 05, 09:43 CET
digupherbones | September 05, 11:30 CET
And I saw Wash, Bennett (although Fred/Penny is as good a guess,) Tara and Wesley, though it's probably Coulson.
Carnelionne | September 01, 12:50 CET