October 28
2012
Whedon on Romney.
Joss creates a video about Mitt Romney's vision for America.
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Simon | October 28, 13:59 CET
libradude | October 28, 14:03 CET
Raeven7 | October 28, 14:05 CET
ZachsMind | October 28, 14:11 CET
ofermod | October 28, 14:15 CET
And thank you for getting this out there before us east coasters enter the dark ages courtesy of Sandy Frankenstormmegaapocolypse.
[ edited by hann23 on 2012-10-28 22:17 ]
hann23 | October 28, 14:15 CET
BlueSkies | October 28, 14:16 CET
(And then I was slightly scared of the future and went to sharpen my sword.)
Valentyn | October 28, 14:18 CET
#ZOMNEYAPOCALYPSE <- let's get this trending, people!
WhatsAStevedore | October 28, 14:23 CET
QingTing | October 28, 14:28 CET
Illy | October 28, 14:29 CET
betweentheblinks | October 28, 14:29 CET
lycoming | October 28, 14:38 CET
Also, YES.
Kiba | October 28, 14:41 CET
(Spam spam spam spam, lovely spam, wonderful spam...)
The modern cans have a pull tab top.
It is old school cans that use a key to unwrap the side of the container.
OneTeV | October 28, 14:42 CET
Phunkle | October 28, 14:47 CET
lisatwingomez | October 28, 14:50 CET
Oh, I bet he knows he just doesn't care. I mean, how many ppl have looked right at his name and called him "Josh" anyway? This is probably his little rebellion against that.
ZachsMind | October 28, 14:53 CET
Vote for Obama!
whedon is GOD | October 28, 15:08 CET
Dude Meister | October 28, 15:08 CET
Dana5140 | October 28, 15:24 CET
Jayne's Hat | October 28, 15:24 CET
VOTE FOR ZOMNEY! BRAINS!!! 2012!!!
ZachsMind | October 28, 15:25 CET
tasakeru828 | October 28, 15:27 CET
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electricspacegirl | October 28, 15:34 CET
Matt_Fabb | October 28, 15:36 CET
Hats off to you sir, for that well-crafted
joketruth.Calatia | October 28, 15:46 CET
the ninja report | October 28, 15:49 CET
Tumnus | October 28, 15:51 CET
mbeauparland | October 28, 15:51 CET
[ edited by almost cookies on 2012-10-28 23:52 ]
| October 28, 15:51 CET
Seriously, I LOVE that Joss did this video. It made my day.
embers | October 28, 16:03 CET
Daburcor | October 28, 16:08 CET
AnonymousAnimus | October 28, 16:09 CET
Simon | October 28, 16:19 CET
InappropriateStarches | October 28, 16:19 CET
If they showed us that, then we'd be wondering who was filming the person who was filming Joss. It's a maddening cycle. Ends in crazy carnival clown death. Let's not go there.
ZachsMind | October 28, 16:27 CET
Tonya J | October 28, 16:30 CET
I can't wait until November 6th! I wanna vote for Mitt Zomney now!!!1! Sadly it's too late for early voting in Texas, which is kinda ironic when you think about it. Or is that just coincidence? I always get those two mixed up.
ZachsMind | October 28, 16:31 CET
Cheese slices. I wish he'd left room for the cheese slices. *sniff*
ZachsMind | October 28, 16:32 CET
sss1 | October 28, 16:34 CET
jettamesis | October 28, 16:53 CET
[ edited by brinderwalt on 2012-10-29 01:01 ]
brinderwalt | October 28, 16:54 CET
KingofCretins | October 28, 17:00 CET
Pointy | October 28, 17:05 CET
eddy | October 28, 17:06 CET
I think the best way to see this video, is as an editorial cartoon in video form. He's using comedy while making his own political point. Plus in this fashion, people will pass it around, rather than just another celebrity endorsement that is ignored.
Matt_Fabb | October 28, 17:11 CET
palehorse | October 28, 17:16 CET
CaptainB | October 28, 17:23 CET
eddy | October 28, 17:24 CET
Frankly I don't know who would think that Joss was demonizing anyone: the Religious Right has been longing for the apocalypse, and you know the libertarians have been preparing for a zombie attack (or any kind break down of society) for decades, so I would think that Joss' video would just be a message of hope to all of them.
embers | October 28, 17:28 CET
gossi | October 28, 17:34 CET
Of the planet.
ScarletRose | October 28, 17:42 CET
Nebula1400 | October 28, 17:43 CET
embers | October 28, 17:44 CET
As a daily t-shirt site junkie, I'd also love too see a shirt of Romney as a zombie over the words zomneyapocalypse.
Btw, para-what? What did he mean by mentioning Rand?
[ edited by Skytteflickan88 on 2012-10-29 01:46 ]
Skytteflickan88 | October 28, 17:44 CET
Or a Zombie apocalypse. Boil it down and Joss isn't laughing about the issues at stake and I'm not either, so why play these games? It's not entertainment - it's using humor to coach malignant propaganda.
BringItOn5x5 | October 28, 17:48 CET
What did Joss do 4 years ago? I remember the big fund raiser he did against Bush some years ago but am drawing a blank on 4 years ago.
And for those who, like me, didn't know what he was talking about:
parkour.
[ edited by Lioness on 2012-10-29 01:52 ]
[ edited by Lioness on 2012-10-29 01:52 ]
Lioness | October 28, 17:49 CET
embers | October 28, 17:52 CET
Tonya J | October 28, 17:55 CET
I think you guys misunderstand Joss Whedon's message entirely.
He's obviously given up being merely an absurdist, and has completely embraced the nihilist within. He's looked into the abyss and it has looked back into him, and I for one applaud him for giving up entirely. GO JOSS GO! VOTE FOR MITT! ZOMNEY APOCALYPSE 2012!!!
PARKOUR!!! *runs headlong into a conveniently placed nearby horde of zombies*
ZachsMind | October 28, 18:09 CET
latinandgreek | October 28, 18:15 CET
OMG that was fast, Huffington Post has already set up a link to Joss' video!
[ edited by embers on 2012-10-29 02:55 ]
embers | October 28, 18:18 CET
Now I'm just crossing my fingers that Colbert will play this on his next episode. It's a match made in heaven.
RayHill | October 28, 18:54 CET
Gorch | October 28, 18:54 CET
George Takei's Barack Obama endorsement: 1,097,000
Felicia Day's 5th Flog: 386,000
Firefly's 10th Anniversary Panel: 674,000
Joss's boycott of Sleepwalk with Me: 1,585,000
Gangnam Style: 1,809,000
Again, treat these as very rough figures. The most I'd be willing to say is that I'd be very surprised if the video hasn't gotten at least 100,000 views, based on its current number of likes. And also, if you run it again later, you'll probably get different numbers because the number of likes will have changed.
PaperSpock | October 28, 19:13 CET
barboo | October 28, 19:15 CET
Breaking: Joss Whedon Endorses Mitt Zomney
Tonya J | October 28, 20:05 CET
Scraggles | October 28, 20:42 CET
Sunfire | October 28, 20:48 CET
WheelsOfJoy | October 28, 21:10 CET
Skytteflickan88 | October 28, 21:11 CET
Shapenew | October 28, 21:13 CET
WheelsOfJoy | October 28, 21:21 CET
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FollowMal | October 28, 21:57 CET
On FB, in a post linking this video, the DP of Lust For Love just said:
"Woot Woot! Thanks to Daniel Kaminsky & Patrick Strapazon. Good work by Molly Cranna, Armando Macias and Charlie Panian."
Charlie was the 1st AC on Lust For Love, and also worked a couple days on Much Ado About Nothing (just coincidence). I don't know the others.
bobw1o | October 28, 21:59 CET
Skytteflickan88 | October 28, 22:04 CET
TaraLivesOn | October 28, 22:05 CET
janef | October 29, 01:04 CET
Charlie was the 1st AC on Lust For Love, and also worked a couple days on Much Ado About Nothing (just coincidence). I don't know the others.
Cheers for that, bobw10.
Joss seems to be getting a lot of flack over the 28 Days Later zombie remark.
Simon | October 29, 02:00 CET
Gorch | October 29, 02:10 CET
orangewaxlion | October 29, 02:19 CET
I am so pleased that I have seen this video shared multiple times on fb today by people who are Joss fans but wouldn't normally hang out here and share his every pronouncement.
skittledog | October 29, 02:52 CET
apollo11 | October 29, 04:01 CET
lecter | October 29, 04:14 CET
Dana5140 | October 29, 04:31 CET
mockingbird | October 29, 04:50 CET
http://blog.whedonesque.com/post/34512402181/joss-whedon-on-mitt-romney
I think that's a record for us (especially in such a short time)
Simon | October 29, 05:15 CET
GVH | October 29, 06:17 CET
Dude Meister | October 29, 06:49 CET
For sure watching the US-election from the outside so far has been rather scary, but this adds a whole new level!
asaneismRnuTs | October 29, 06:50 CET
I'm now imagining Joss doing a 'Shaun of the Dead' sequel set during the presidential election.
Shep | October 29, 07:09 CET
Heatherondo | October 29, 07:41 CET
I kept thinking those people to be seen through the window might turn out to be zombies. Urgh!
If having knowledge of the can-key is an "old" indicator, then I have passed that line. Creak, creak, creak...
IMHO, the best thing about the newfangled pull-tops is that if you could save up enough of them you might be able to shingle a house. But that is a discussion for another time.
FloralBonnet | October 29, 08:26 CET
bakla | October 29, 09:16 CET
As a politcal statement, it is fiction.
I'm opposed to character assasination (what my Jewish grandmother taught me was "lashon hara", the evil tongue) toward anyone--except, perhaps, against certain Fox television executives.
I wish there was more effort given by those who support President Obama, especially by the Presidnt himself, in justifying why the President deserves my vote rather than bashing Govenor Romney.
Whoever wins the Presidency, it is clear that half the country will feel the wrong man won. There will be no popular "mandate" for a new President to claim as justifying major policy initiatives. More than ever, the new President will need be bipartisan.
Looking at the responses to the YouTube video, they indicate a similar polarization among Joss' fans (some applaud him, and others curse him). I would have preferred that Joss had refrained from creating such a division in his fan base (despite how much I enjoyed the wit of the piece); or that this video came out after a Romney win (if it occurs) as a piece of SNL-type political satire.
History | October 29, 09:51 CET
Now I give Whedon points for acknowledging that we don't know which kind of undead are coming -- "no one knows for sure if they'll be the superfast 28 Days Later zombies or the old school shambling kind." But is Whedon's hypothesis actually true? One could posit that he's got it backwards. After all, the key to preventing the spread of the zombie apocalypse is to slow down the infection rate and spread of the undead contagoion. Cuts to public services might actually discourage the 47% from congregating in public places, thereby making it that much harder for the initial cluster of the undead to be able to spread their pestilence and hunger for human flesh to others. Similarly, it is likely true that giving corporations a freer hand might incentivize one of them to take the Umbrella path to global domination, Romney's tough stands on immigration will likely restrict the H1-B visas necessary to hire the Eurotrash that always seems to be a the top of the corporate ladder when Things Go Wrong.
BrewBunny | October 29, 09:57 CET
Tonya J | October 29, 10:00 CET
2) The discussion that's allowed here isn't only "one sided", but it's clear that Joss' humanitarian and liberal stances tend to attract many with similar beliefs. I've never seen people stopped from having contrary positions on here, though - I have seen people of many different political positions advised to keep it respectful and, you know, factual, insofar as that's possible.
3) I thought Joss' video was hysterical in a painfully rueful way.
4) Ayn Rand was mentioned because her philosophies have been touted by Paul Ryan and many in the current incarnation of the Republican Party. (Let's not forget that her ideological positions against collectivism or government aid did not extend, gods forbid, to herself; by no means poverty-stricken, she nonetheless accepted both Social Security and Medicare benefits towards the end of her life.) She might even have accepted governmental protection if she were attacked by a zombie.
5) Joss is, as always, The Man.
6) My opinion on the controversial kitchen speculation: it's too small and too vintage to be Joss' brand-spankin'-new Kai-designed kitchen. I'd imagine it was the kitchen in his separate little office-y house located somewhere that's else.
7) I am old enough to remember - and have cut myself - on spam keys. I welcomed the flip top. My Dad was in the Navy during WW2, though, so we actually had to sneak spam when he wasn't around because the sight of it could render him speechless with ennui and disgust.
8) I like spam. I'll have yours.
QuoterGal | October 29, 10:12 CET
Brutus | October 29, 10:13 CET
IrrationaliTV | October 29, 10:29 CET
Shapenew | October 29, 11:10 CET
lycoming | October 29, 11:41 CET
Sunfire | October 29, 11:49 CET
Dana5140 | October 29, 11:50 CET
Is Christopher John Farley insane (the writer of the Wall Street Journal piece)? People do realize zombies aren't a real thing, right?
Wesbi | October 29, 12:28 CET
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=31&sid=3096034
[ edited by jettamesis on 2012-10-29 21:01 ]
[ edited by jettamesis on 2012-10-29 21:01 ]
jettamesis | October 29, 12:41 CET
Rowan Hawthorn | October 29, 13:57 CET
[ edited by Tonya J on 2012-10-29 22:30 ]
Tonya J | October 29, 14:05 CET
Dana5140 | October 29, 14:32 CET
Pot meet kettle. And if we needed any further proof that the country is polarized...
BringItOn5x5 | October 29, 15:01 CET
We've been lacking that for some years, and I don't know why. I'd hoped better from Joss's entry into the fray. "Shouting talking points at each other?" What are we talking about but a brilliant trojan-video wrapping talking points in ham on wry?
It is *a* prime function of art, I think, to question the power and assumptions in our world. Joss has the talent to go past slimeing the designated bad guys. Who's really the bad guys here? What choices are well made, and which work out well? To be bought-off is to be owned. The complement to hero-worship is daemonization. Do we want to be sold into choosing that way? In stead he's throwing rocks.
Maybe it's unfair of me to want more out of Joss. He's a genius. Everybody he's worked with says he's a mensch. I'd pay many times what he charged for the joy he's given me. He's widened the range of "acceptable" portrayals of women in pop culture. Now, he's bringing Shakespeare into movie theaters. By any measure he's done the impossible. Yet, I wasn't ready to find that video as cheap as it seemed to me.
BierceAmbrose | October 29, 15:26 CET
Wesbi | October 29, 15:29 CET
ActualSize | October 29, 16:05 CET
shotgun | October 29, 16:09 CET
a) zombies
b) apocalypses
c) washing up while political canvassing for absolutely no reason
d) absurdity in political ads
e) keys on spam (the company I work for puts keys on corned beef)
It did lack robots though. I'm burning my browncoat right now as a result.
Truthfully, it did what joss does best - being silly to sneak in the serious. If America votes in Romney, it won't start the apocalypse. It will mean, for example, "The actions I’ll take immediately is to remove funding for Planned Parenthood... It won't be in my budget." - Mitt Romney, October 10th 2012. Agree with things like that? Disagree? Think about it before voting. And then vote accordingly. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are offering a very different vision for America, one where women absolutely should have less rights over their bodies, where the government will have massive cuts (which worked not so well in Spain, where youth unemployment sits at 52%) (Greece 53%) (Portugal.. Italy... I can go on)...
There's some pretty fundamental changes (or as they're often referred to, "roll backs") being tabled here. I look at the vision Mitt is offering and think 'Wow'. And not a good wow. More the kind of wow before Ripley kicks me out the airlock.
I also like Alien.
gossi | October 29, 16:25 CET
embers | October 29, 17:34 CET
Really? Serious things like, what, exactly? The fact that the President of the United States has not seen fit to personally hand-deliver his birth certificate and grade transcripts and Social Security Card and Selective Service Card and baptismal record and whatever-the-hell-else they can think of to every - single - person the RNC can manipulate into demanding them, and allow each and every one of them to run whatever bogus "examination" they can come up with?
No. Sorry. The WSJ jettisoned any claim they ever had to being a serious news source when they decided to become one of Murdoch's official RNC mouthpieces.
No, what I think is that way, WAY too many self-proclaimed "conservatives" - especially, but not exclusively, the ones with a well-funded public presence - are deliberately stupid, and playing to a target audience that does not, or will not, make much of an effort to weed out the trash.
Rowan Hawthorn | October 29, 17:59 CET
shotgun | October 29, 18:24 CET
Last year, Planned Parenthood reported one adoption for every 340 abortions. Although they will claim that no federal tax dollars are being used directly for abortions, it is subsidizing their business and does subsidize "family planning" programs that advocate abortion. If you believe that government should not be involved in reproductive rights (and whatever my personal reservations, I am ultimately pro-choice), government should also not be involved in forcing tax payers who do not support abortion to pay into such a company. I have no problem whatsoever in cutting funding to Planned Parenthood - it's simply not government's role.
Why did President Obama oppose a ban on selective sex abortion? Having a life snuffed out simply because it's female... how exactly is that consistent with "Women's Rights"?
And by all means, let's talk about Spain, Greece, etc. Those are economies that were already buried with out of control, unsustainable entitlement programs. In four years, what has President Obama done to address Social Security and Medicare's impending insolvency? What's his plan today? He has none. All he's done is raided Medicare to create a brand new mega-entitlement with Obamacare. We are over 16 trillion in debt. Fundamental changes are coming whether we want them or no. It's simply a question of whether we steer it now with some tough decisions or fall off a cliff when it's beyond all control.
Rowan Hawthorn said:
And the same could be said for the witch hunt for Mitt Romney's tax records going back to the beginning of time. Acting as a "mouthpiece" and dumbing down their message to play against uninformed voters is hardly the exclusive domain of the right / WSJ / Fox News. There is no objective media anymore - none. If you're not sampling sources from both sides, you're living in a carefully manipulated bubble.
[ edited by BringItOn5x5 on 2012-10-30 03:57 ]
BringItOn5x5 | October 29, 19:55 CET
I think the adoption to abortion ratio is very misleading in the context you present it. Even assuming there were foster parents available for every one of those pregnancies had they been brought to term, one would also need to assume that those mothers would not have chosen abortion without Planned Parenthood's influence in order for that statistic to carry the weight you seem to put on it. I am not convinced that Planned Parenthood actively advocates abortion in the guise of family planning, and would require far more evidence than you've presented here. For starters, a source would help.
Furthermore, what about the 97% of non-abortion services Planned Parenthood provides, like cancer screening, often to people who would otherwise have no access?
How would one enforce a ban on selective sex abortion? By barring the abortion of any fetus whose sex had been identified?
I'm glad you brought up Social Security and Medicare in the same post, because they make Planned Parenthood's budget (not to mention public broadcasting) look like a drop in the bucket by comparison, especially in proportion to the amount of political ire that gets raised over its funding or defunding. I'm no expert on the subject, but it seems to me that the plans of both candidates fall far short of solving the problem. My problem with the actions of the Republican party is that they've used the debt ceiling as a political tool to actively threaten our immediate ability to pay our obligations, thus harming our credit rating and the economy. It's as though they want the economy to grow worse so that they can blame the administration. By contrast, it seems to me that Obama has had his hands full keeping the economy aloft and unemployment down. Yes, it's unfortunate that his strongest argument is "things could have been worse," but I believe it. We were on the verge of another great depression, and we may not be out of the woods yet. But the actions of the Republican party, whose primary strategy seems to be to cut programs that benefit the poor while keeping taxes low for the rich, make it difficult for me to see the insistence on the primacy of the debt above all other concerns as anything but an excuse to further that strategy, which I credit as having contributed to the recession in the first place. I imagine you see it differently, but are you here to convince views like mine to change?
And I just don't see the equivalence between the birthers and those who want Romney to disclose his tax records. The birther insinuations against Obama have been ludicrous, racist, and based on outright falsehood.
[ edited by zoinkers on 2012-10-30 05:36 ]
zoinkers | October 29, 21:18 CET
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem Mitt Romney has a plan either. It would be one thing if Romney really wanted to tackled the debt/deficit problem, keep tax revenue stable as funding for programs were cut across the board. However, he's suggesting trillions of dollars of tax cuts, which apparently will be made by closing tax loopholes, but cutting all possible tax deductions won't pay for the 20% across the board tax cut that he wants.
The details all of which Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan don't seem to want to get into, for fear of scaring off independent voters, or possibly free of being held to these details if they win the election.
Also since taxes is one of the issues in this election, Mitt Romney's tax records are a bit relevant to the election. Also it was originally the other Republican candidates that made the big push for Romney to release his tax records. (That said, I do agree that in the US, news media bias has gotten a bit ridiculous these days, both on the left & right.)
Matt_Fabb | October 30, 00:01 CET
I hate to get into a political fracas, but this does misconception has driven me to speak out: the problems of Spain, Greece, Italy, are NOT related to their outsize entitlement programs. Germany, France, the UK and Northern European countries (like Sweden, Switzerland) have even more generous entitlement programs, and they are not the countries that are foundering. The euro debt crisis is tied to a chain reaction set off by the global economic crisis of 2008. The economies of these euro countries collapsed (Spain's economic boom was tied to an incredibly inflated housing bubble... sound familiar?). The problem was that, unlike, say the U.S., their currency is the euro and it's pretty much controlled politically by, well, the Germans (and to a lesser extent) the French. They couldn't devalue their currency and apparently (according to all these economists, of which I am NOT one), this set their economies up for unending economic crises.
The conundrum is far more complicated than: oh, those entitlement programs that led those silly Europeans to economic downfall. Each country is obviously different -- Greece has a double whammy problem in that it does have a generous pension program but also high rate of tax dodging, and Spain actually pre-2008, had pretty low rates of government debt, but just got utterly slammed by their housing crisis collapse and could not get back on its feet because its currency is not under its control.
The real problem is the euro. It's an unwieldy thing because it's a currency without a political union. Germans don't feel responsible for Spanish debt. Which is fine, but unfortunately, the Spanish share a currency with the Germans, the terms of which are pretty much set by the German government and banks (yes, also the French, kinda).
In other words, it's complicated.
dottikin | October 30, 00:11 CET
Simon | October 30, 00:48 CET
janef | October 30, 01:50 CET
PS. I love all the false equivalencies noted above.
What I find most interesting now is how this is being reported. Many news leads about this start by stating that Joss is supporting Romney, and you need to read on to see that he really is not.
And I am guessing that is not really Joss' kitchen. I say this because you can see people walking by, cars driving by, and I would guess Joss might need a bit of privacy these days. It is clear that his cache is so large now that this vidoe clip is getting virally spread to millions. We have gone global!
Dana5140 | October 30, 04:48 CET
[ edited by zoinkers on 2012-10-30 13:14 ]
zoinkers | October 30, 05:13 CET
To be specific with an example above - I do believe the US government should allocate a small amount of funding to birth control, abortions and related issues as they currently do. If you don't agree with me, that's fine: vote for Romney/Ryan. I cited Spain for a reason; their economy was built on mortgage debt and property building, and severe government austerity imposed by their government (not the EU) has crippled the country. 53% youth unemployment. The point I was trying to make is there's some really radical proposals on the table here and people need to think about where they stand.
gossi | October 30, 05:18 CET
I'd be happier still if Joss followed the same policy and wasn't lobbing political hand grenades from 30,000 ft. This is certainly not Joss having "playful fun" with Romney and the GOP. My opinion, do the discussion justice or don't go there in the first place.
BringItOn5x5 | October 30, 05:35 CET
The closed door health care reform negotiations, the ones that Obama promised to be open, that lead to such windfall profits for big pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, most likely also included discussions on the zombie virus. How to release it and it's antidote, to maximize profits by pharmaceutical corporations and to create a totalitarian, alliance-like government. But for a small, tenth of a percent of the population, the antidote will have opposite effect. Their aggressor response will increase beyond madness. Then a rag-tag group of rebels and smugglers will learn the secret...
garyyager | October 30, 05:43 CET
Rowan Hawthorn | October 30, 06:03 CET
[ edited by gossi on 2012-10-30 14:14 ]
gossi | October 30, 06:13 CET
[ edited by zoinkers on 2012-10-31 05:02 ]
zoinkers | October 30, 06:18 CET
Simon | October 30, 06:36 CET
ActualSize | October 30, 07:38 CET
Shapenew | October 30, 08:34 CET
Simon | October 30, 08:42 CET
eddy | October 30, 09:09 CET
Re Dr Horrible - in fairness, if you search for 'dr horrible' on YouTube the first ten videos (there's thousands) have 10 million views.
gossi | October 30, 10:39 CET
redeem147 | October 30, 11:43 CET
Here's where it currently is at:
Top demographics
Male, 35-44 years
Male, 45-54 years
Female, 45-54 years
Which to me is a surprisingly older audience. I wonder if this comes from so many news sites picking up on it, which might have an older audience. YouTube only shows a small number of sites that first picked it up, so you can't see how say the Wall Street Journal brought in.
Matt_Fabb | October 30, 12:00 CET
gossi | October 30, 12:08 CET
Political satire has a long and reputable history, from Juvenal and Swift, to Kubrick, Fey & Poehler, and of course Stewart and Colbert.
It may not be your cup of tea, but satire can't simply be dismissed as "demonization" (in the modern parlance) or failing to do the discussion justice, or, you know, not being serious enough to be valid. (And I think we probably should know Joss well enough by now to know that he takes the importance of questions of voting, individual rights, power - and power abuse - and the importance of democracy very seriously.)
Satire is a different kind of approach from reasoned discourse - it tries to reach someone through its absurdity, and by exaggerating certain situations or trends or tendencies to a ridiculous degree (like Swift's "A Modest Proposal") in order to expose what the writer feels is stupidity or error or folly.
You don't have to like it, of course, but it is a perfectly valid type of political criticism.
QuoterGal | October 30, 12:47 CET
gossi | October 30, 14:07 CET
BrewBunny | October 30, 14:49 CET
(Thought I actually can be bought more easily with chocolate and perry. #JustFYI)
And thankee for sayin'.
QuoterGal | October 30, 15:59 CET
Maybe I just need more brains. That's it! Wait, I don't remember that bite mark on my arm. Where'd that come from? Where was I? Oh, right, um, er, brrraaaaaaaaiiinnnnssss...
[ edited by quantumac on 2012-10-31 04:23 ]
quantumac | October 30, 18:26 CET
Matt_Fabb | October 30, 18:36 CET
Shapenew | October 30, 22:22 CET
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118061697
Simon | November 05, 01:19 CET
WOOOT! Yet..otoh :( No zombie apocalypse now.
eddy | November 06, 20:39 CET
lrigslam | November 07, 11:10 CET
Sunfire | November 07, 14:35 CET