December 19 2012
(SPOILER)
Discuss Angel & Faith #17.
The last issue had quite the cliffhanger, let's find out what happened next. And a review can be found over at Bleeding Cool.
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faith in Angel | December 19, 06:07 CET
Simon | December 19, 06:16 CET
Buffyfantic | December 19, 06:23 CET
So much good stuff here. Spoilers from here on in:
1- So Giles isn't alive and neither is Ethan, but possessed by Eyghon. Lovely twist. Of course we knew he was coming from the future covers, but it's still nice to see a consistant mythology. Eyghon finally got Giles and Ethan then. Glad that Ethan isn't alive as much as I like his character. He did die from a bullet in the head, so would have been a bit much to come back from that. This was he can be used, and it works with the mythology. Which makes me happy.
-In 'The Dark Age', it seemed that Eyghon could only inhabit one person at a time. Now with magic gone it seems he can inhabit more than one person, once they bare his mark.
2- I wonder how friendly Angel and Faith will be at the end of this series. She really has been there for him all year, but to her detriment it seems. I hope her faith (ahem) in him will be rewarded.
3- I think that Angel will get the last piece of Giles's soul by the end of this arc, but at a big cost. The Spike issue will be a bit of comic relief, with some major heaviness in the last arc. 8 issues to go and I still don't know how they hell this will all end!
4- The Aunts are providing excellent comic relief, and it is sorely needed. The story is so serious and heavy that it's good to have the 'truth sayer' character in it (represented in the past by Cordy and Spike)
5-Nice to see Angel doing some detective work again. And next issue will be great to see him punch and kick some ass:)
faith in Angel | December 19, 06:36 CET
Simon | December 19, 06:40 CET
@Simon, I'm not sure what the "most disturbing act" was-Perhaps the dude exploding? "Giles" head turning all the way around?
Edit: I asked the writer of the article, he said "It was the "twist"... Your mileage may vary, but I found that horrific."
[ edited by Jelly on 2012-12-19 17:21 ]
Jelly | December 19, 07:59 CET
*shudder*
faith in Angel | December 19, 09:15 CET
I'm guessing Olivia Williams is the Phina Oruche character from season four... rather than the actress...
[ edited by daylight on 2012-12-19 18:27 ]
daylight | December 19, 09:25 CET
DaddyCatALSO | December 19, 11:09 CET
narky | December 19, 11:38 CET
apollo11 | December 19, 12:01 CET
Craig Oxbrow | December 19, 12:26 CET
DaddyCatALSO | December 19, 12:27 CET
I thought this was a strong issue overall.The Giles alive reveal is pretty much what was speculated on.Eyghon animating Giles's corpse.But it was very freaky knowing what's inside Giles's body especially the scene where Gilesghon shows off his broken neck,
Eyghon is also animating Ethan's corpse thus explaining the Steve Morris cover.Eyghon is basically possessing as many bodies as he can now including Nadira's slayer friend.Props to Nadira for asking questions and being suspicious.Unfortunately too late.This issue gave her more personality than just angry and troubled.So great to see that.
Also loved the Ripper flashback and how that sets up what's going on in the present.
Faith's blowup at Angel has been building all season.It wasn't a question of if it would happen but when.And Angel totally owns that and realizes that he owes her now too and will do whatever she asks.I'll admit I was surprised initially that what she wants is for Angel to finish the job of bringing Giles back.I thought she would want him to drop the Giles resurrection plan.But thinking about it in retrospect,I can understand why she wants Angel to finish his plan.
1)Faith invested so much in this.She lost the respect of her slayers and this has taken a toll on her so understandably she wants Angel to finish it so everything she invested and lost won't be for nothing.
2)Whether it's smart or not.Whether it's too dangerous,Faith wants Giles back too and if there is a chance,she'll take it.
So in retrospect,I think I get why the only thing Faith wants from Angel now to pay her back is this.I do think Angel & Faith will be going there separate ways at the end of the season and we'll have a different second monthly in season 10
Even though it was exposition,I really enjoyed the scenes of Angel,Faith and Giles's aunts gathering the info of where Giles's body is and who/what is behind it.It was written lively IMO.
Of course Eyghon has the last piece of Giles's soul.
Also liked the little bit of Angel and Faith realizing it's Eyghon and the Aunts having no idea what they're talking about.
Another great issue.
Buffyfantic | December 19, 12:52 CET
Faith won't have to worry about her slayerette's loathing her much longer - since mostly likely none of them are going to survive.
Mr.Savath_Bunny | December 19, 13:21 CET
dorotea | December 19, 13:54 CET
Issue and the whole series great as ever. Love it, love it, love it.
N27 | December 19, 15:01 CET
Your last point got me thinking. I wonder by the end of this arc will Angel & Faith save the Slayers (& Nadira) from the possession & thereby gain their forgiveness and trust?
faith in Angel | December 19, 15:09 CET
richied1983 | December 19, 15:19 CET
I know season 10 is already a go but I can't remember, did they announce what the titles would be? I wondering if Angel and Faith's relationship will last the season.
A_Leaf | December 19, 20:18 CET
aapac | December 19, 23:15 CET
cderochefort | December 21, 15:53 CET
dorotea | December 21, 20:53 CET
embers | December 22, 20:08 CET
cleveland | December 23, 22:32 CET
Also not clear why the posessed Slayer-corpse had no real memories.
"Yah vell," stil a good story.
DaddyCatALSO | December 24, 07:13 CET
dorotea | December 24, 10:42 CET
cderochefort | December 24, 12:20 CET
So glad I did not get spoiled for this, Ethanophile that I am.
What a great issue, the art, the storyline, the implications...I loved the scenes with young Ethan and Ripper - major props to Rebekah for the art. It all just worked seamlessly. This line has hit a real run of form.
(One thing though, I thought in The Dark Age, Ethan removed his tattoo by burning it off with acid? And JennyEyghon passed him over and went straight for Buffy? Or am I splitting hairs?) Either way, I'm counting the days to the next issue.
171Oak | January 11, 05:30 CET