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February 25 2004

MSN's Top 10 Cancelled TV Shows Firefly at # 6. Calls Joss "TV's brightest mind."

Also, the live-action version of "The Tick" (Ben Edlund) is at # 10.

How about "Dead Last"? And "Strange Luck"?
And "Angel"? :D
Maybe they're hoping Angel could still be picked up. In which case the inclusion in this list is premature. Hopefuls like us...

I didn't know a lot of those shows. Certainly never heard of no 1. But the Firefly mention was nice. And I hope more and more that the DVD market will become a bigger factor in TV, giving shows a better chance or a different avenue.
Wow. I've enjoyed 7 of the shows listed there.

I was a big fan of 'John Doe', as well. Really sad when it was cancelled. And for some reason, I actually enjoyed 'Dead Last', 'Glory Days', and 'Young Americans'. Hhmmmm... I think those last three were all WB summer time shows. I'm sure there's more.

So, just a warning guys, if there's a show I REALLY like, the possibilities are high that it's going to get canned. I'll try my best to pretend to dislike the next Joss Whedon series, but that will be pretty difficult.
Looking at the articles and comments on many good shows that have been cancelled has lead me to wonder if there isn't some way in which fans of these shows could support the shows and perhaps remove them from being at the mercy of a networks whim. DVD sales and networks like HBO have shown that people are willing to pay for the shows they like. I wonder if some way could be found for fans to actually support with money the shows that they care for? Lets say a show like Angel has 3 million fans. That isn't many to a network, however if each one gave as little as $20 that would make $60 million. I imagine that could pay for quite a few episodes. I haven't really thought this idea out much, however I wanted to throw it out there. Maybe there could be a foundation of some kind that could be formed by fans to help fund people like Whedon. I know I would gladly contribute if it would help insure that quality shows wouldn't have to be dependent on the whims of a network. And individually it wouldn't take a lot from each person as long as those who wanted to see the shows continue would contrbute.
I think that's an excellent suggestion pesoto74.....now how to find out if it's possible. I would be willing to pay antyhing to keep Angel on TV...where ever. I figure if a 22 episode DVD set is @50 bucks and like you said there were 3 or 4 million fans willing to shell out the money, I'd think 200 million should fund a few episode or so. What about straight to DVD ? I don't know how that works but someone else had suggested that a while ago. Just out of curiosity...what does an episode of Angel cost to make, with salaries, sets, props, etc. ? Are we way off base here, or would the pay per veiw option be viable.
#3 Homicide: Life on the Street
"The show never became a hit, and it was only through dedicated support from then-NBC president Warren Littlefield that the show was able to last as long as it did." Imagine that. Homicide was an excellent show. I wish Northern Exposure would have gotten a mention as well.
I think I saw somewhere that Angel was around $2 million an episode. Although my memory could be faulty. I think raising money for such a thing is not impossible. I think Howard Dean raised $40-50 million from just around 300,000 people. And I tend to think that the fans of Whedons shows are just as devoted to the shows he makes as the Dean supporters were to Dean's cause. Do you remember what the response was to the person who suggested this idea earlier?
I realize they'd have to make their profits in order for them to WANT to continue making the show... but if this fan donation thing would work, I think it would also be a good idea to offer the fans that chip in, a discount on the boxset. Maybe, if you donate $20, you get $10 off the boxset. And if you donate $100 or more, you'll get a free boxset.

This idea could be complete crap and not at all beneficial to the companies involved, but it sounds like everyone could win. They would get their money for the show, as well as boxsets, and you would get your show and DVDs. From what I understand, the DVDs themselves are pretty cheap to produce, so it's not like they would be losing too much by offering some sort of discount to those who already contributed to the show to begin with.

Again... probably all crap. I'm definitely not a PR person.
Some more cancelled shows I miss...

Prey (13 eps), Roar (12 of 13 eps aired), Roswell (69 eps), Miracles (6 of 13 eps aired), Platinum (6 eps), As If (The US Version, of which only 2 eps were shown), Project G.eeK.eR. (13 eps), ...
My So-Called Life was one of the few pre-Joss shows that had a big influence on my life. I still to this day miss that show and wonder what happened to those characters. I really need to pick up those DVDs, even if they're annoyingly devoid of extras.

I also had a soft spot for the quickly cancelled Titans and Central Park West. Sad to see Karen Sisco is gone as well. And I've always wanted to see both Twin Peaks and Freaks and Geeks, so I should look into those DVDs.
How pissed off is Cartoon Network that they were referred to as
"the Cartoon Channel?"

Sadly, I own a majority of these series already. Just picked up Roswell - Season 1...so good.
Oh, I forgot Grosse Pointe. And Futurama, too.
I'm glad Freaks & Geeks was mentioned. That was a fantastic show and it ended in a cliffhanger. When I heard it was cancelled I was super pissed. I mean, it's a much better period drama than American Dreams. Different era, but hell, the 60's have been done to death.
Man, Homicide, The Tick, Sports Night... I'd blocked out of my mind that so many shows that I loved got cancelled. Boy, I really hate network TV more than I thought I did...

Though I have to disagree with the inclusion of Newsradio. In my list of favorite shows ever, it ranks in the top 5, but it wasn't the same after Phil Hartman's death. I really can't argue with the ending of the show after that season.

I just fear that if the list were to be rewritten in a year or two, Angel and my other favorite show on TV, Arrested Development, would be listed...
wow, fox has really screwed up a lot of fantastic shows.... hmm, maybe they should rethink their decisions.... but that would be smart, and we can't have that in popular culture.



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