April 26 2013
(SPOILER)
How Agent Coulson returns from the dead?
Suffice to say, major spoiler if this story from Slashfilm is true.
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libradude | April 26, 13:02 CET
The correct answer is obviously "missing Cylon."
Sunfire | April 26, 13:05 CET
Stelian | April 26, 13:18 CET
Simon | April 26, 13:20 CET
What you have in the above link (which i will avoid describing for those of you who didn't read (SPOILER) at the top of the thread) is at best a sliver. Perhaps what we're told up front, but it won't be enough and later on down the line a reveal will pull back the layers of that onion. It's the Marvel Universe. No one ever really dies, they just lose or gain favor. It's also Joss' universe, in which we know things do die, often painfully with a great deal of suffering, but if someone must be brought back, there is ALWAYS a cost. And just a soul? That's so 90s. There's inflation concerns, cost of living increases, and a mere soul just isn't worth what it used to be.
Whedon will bring back Coulson somehow. That's beyond spoilery at this point. It's public knowledge. However, Joss will make certain a price is exacted. It must be earned.
ZachsMind | April 26, 13:23 CET
Clearly the British version of The Avengers on DVD/Blu-ray is canon and the US isn't. Also if I was a betting man, I think we'll see the Coulson "death" scene appear in SHIELD* and then we see what happens immediately afterwards. Jackson and Smulders probably guesting in the pilot as well.
*maybe even filmed from a different perspective
Simon | April 26, 13:28 CET
IrrationaliTV | April 26, 13:54 CET
Derf | April 26, 15:24 CET
apollo11 | April 26, 15:36 CET
Gouki | April 26, 16:43 CET
eddy | April 26, 16:59 CET
MrArg | April 26, 17:24 CET
AnonymousAnimus | April 26, 18:08 CET
Jelly | April 26, 18:22 CET
aapac | April 26, 18:45 CET
Don't kill me please.[ edited by TenTonParasol on 2013-04-27 04:51 ]
TenTonParasol | April 26, 18:57 CET
MrArg | April 26, 19:48 CET
yeah, but that's the point.
the amulet was poor form on behalf of the writers, not just in terms of spike's return but also in its use in season 7 of buffy. but joss tsked all that plot holiness away in the argument that it comes second to the message that was trying to be communicated to the audience about the finale.
you may think this possible reason for coulson's survival is lazy, but at least it matches the message. i'd take that over a cool trick anyday, especially when you're attempting the leverage the whole weight of a series' grounding on it.
aapac | April 26, 20:05 CET
chrisobrien | April 26, 21:01 CET
Actually it is does. Back when Buffy Season 6 was on the air, there was huge fan speculation about how "Buffy came back wrong" and how Spike could hit her wit the chip causing him pain. The resolution was distinctly underwhelming for those who got caught up in the debate.
I'm starting to see the same fan parallels with Coulson. Many fans think his resurrection should be the central part of the show. Marvel and Joss probably don't. So it's a quick explanation for how Phil came bak and then we move on to the real plot arcs.
Simon | April 26, 22:21 CET
katysha | April 27, 03:28 CET
I lean towards there being more to this story. Like perhaps this is just the story that S.H.I.E.L.D. has made up to detract from the fact that there is more to Coulson than meets the eye (whether he is now a robot, clone, who knows).
libradude | April 27, 03:58 CET
Effulgent | April 27, 05:12 CET
AND it would give Joss a chance to emulate his all-time favorite movie, (Star Wars Ep. I) "Send de droid...."
USERNAME | April 27, 06:07 CET
I agree with katysha in that this is better than whatever science fiction-y spec is on the table. I somehow got the idea that this series is supposed to be about quote-unquote normal but highly skilled people who are fighting against superpowered people, aliens, etc. but they can do their jobs just as effectively as the superpowereds, etc. they fight alongside. If Coulson survived because of an LMD or what have you, I believe it changes that a bit too much. Good old fashioned luck seems more in keeping with how I perceive the intention of the series, in my opinion.
The bigger issue I'm concerned with it, as the article states, why is Coulson coming back when he's supposed to be dead? One of the Avenger would surely notice? And there's some consequences of that, not least of which is the Avengers' loss of faith and trust in Fury and SHIELD.
[ edited by TenTonParasol on 2013-04-27 15:22 ]
TenTonParasol | April 27, 06:18 CET
jgsugden | April 27, 06:21 CET
Either way's good for me, though I still (very slightly) prefer they were able to save him. They must have the skill to do that, I mean super soldiers in the forties? They could fix deadly blow to the chest. But yea, he'll definitely have to lose something. You can't come back from the dead and be peachy keen. He has to lose more than those cards. I suppose recovering from a major wound to the chest would limit him but other than that I don't know. The LMD survivor is a better theory in that respect because it's easier to raise the stakes.
[ edited by TenTonParasol on 2013-04-27 16:19 ]
TenTonParasol | April 27, 06:40 CET
Shapenew | April 27, 09:41 CET
Darkness | April 27, 11:57 CET
TenTonParasol | April 27, 12:44 CET
cleveland | April 27, 12:49 CET
TenTonParasol | April 27, 12:58 CET
IrrationaliTV | April 27, 13:29 CET
QingTing | April 28, 14:57 CET