May 14
2013
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to air Tuesdays at 8pm this Fall.
A dancing show will be moving out of the way for our agents.
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Simon | May 14, 08:06 CET
Also weird that they don't pair S.H.I.E.L.D. with anything from the genre family. Why couldn't they just NOT cancel Last Resort last year? ...
@Simon:
FOX has
8:00-8:30 p.m. - "Dads"
8:30-9:00 p.m. - "Brooklyn Nine-Nine"
NBC has
Tuesday: 8, The Biggest Loser
...
can't find any Fall schedules for the other networks yet.
[ edited by D-e-f- on 2013-05-14 17:16 ]
D-e-f- | May 14, 08:08 CET
I'm absolutely cool with that. It's a ridiculously good slot and a bold move by ABC as all the programming that night is new, so they're clearly thinking the show will perform.
gossi | May 14, 08:14 CET
[ edited by BuffyFirefly on 2013-05-14 17:18 ]
BuffyFirefly | May 14, 08:17 CET
gossi | May 14, 08:18 CET
SHIELD is a superhero action show. I don't think the crossover is so big that it's in danger of stealing people from SHIELD.
D-e-f- | May 14, 08:19 CET
Buffyfantic | May 14, 08:21 CET
Monday nights on ABC are very female oriented as well. The audience for Castle definitely skews female. And Sunday nights are a show about fairy tales and two melodramatic soap-ish shows called Revenge and Betrayal. So ABC isn't exactly stereotypical since it skews for a female demographic anyway.
BuffyFirefly, NCIS and S.H.I.E.L.D. do not really share the same audience. NCIS skews much older, roughly in the 40 to 65 age range. CBS has been trying to get a younger audience, but the majority of its demographic is much older than the one S.H.I.E.L.D. is aiming for. Also, I'm not sure about the "large male audience." It does have a male audience, but middle aged women totally watch NCIS. They would not watch S.H.I.E.L.D.
[ edited by the ninja report on 2013-05-14 17:24 ]
the ninja report | May 14, 08:23 CET
gossi | May 14, 08:27 CET
Nuff' said.
symbiotics | May 14, 08:27 CET
eddy | May 14, 08:34 CET
ETA: Good point Eddy, Tuesday 8PM is such an amazing Whedonesque time-slot.
[ edited by Numfar PTB on 2013-05-14 17:37 ]
Numfar PTB | May 14, 08:36 CET
As for the Thursday thing, I meant he trio of fairy tale (once upon a time spin-off), hospital drama (grey's) and whatever scandal actually is.
D-e-f- | May 14, 08:37 CET
Simon | May 14, 08:39 CET
I agree that Thursday is very female-oriented. But my point was so was Monday and Sunday. The entire network is female-oriented.
Simon, I think the issue is that ABC doesn't really have a lot of action-oriented television to pair with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. It should have paired it with something that had a big lead-in audience, like Dancing with the Stars. Castle could have been moved and survived.
ETA: nevermind about the question I had.
[ edited by the ninja report on 2013-05-14 17:42 ]
the ninja report | May 14, 08:40 CET
[ edited by ghostofdurruti on 2013-05-14 17:45 ]
[ edited by ghostofdurruti on 2013-05-14 17:45 ]
ghostofdurruti | May 14, 08:42 CET
I think it was Alan Sepinwall over at HitFix who said last week ABC hasn't had a Thursday 8pm hit in something like 20 years. I'm glad they didn't risk putting the show there.
banner | May 14, 08:45 CET
I think AoS is going to be one of those rare shows that will be bullet proof. I'm not feeling the angst that I had with Dollhouse, instead the exact opposite.
Simon | May 14, 08:47 CET
swanjun | May 14, 08:50 CET
eddy | May 14, 08:52 CET
Simon, is the lack of angst partly to do with the plot? S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty straightforward, whereas Dollhouse seemed a little muddled in the beginning.
the ninja report | May 14, 08:54 CET
Also, Joss Whedon is well known now thanks to The Avengers and he wrote and directed the pilot and will serve as executive producer along with Jed and Marissa who will be the showrunners.
BuffyFirefly | May 14, 08:54 CET
I'm glad it is not facing TBBT as there might be some overlap, or even crowded on Wednesdays, where it be facing genre shows like Revolution and probably Arrow (The CW has yet to unveild their 2013-2014 schedule).
I think Simon said it well, might just "be one of those rare shows that will be bullet proof".
Numfar PTB | May 14, 08:58 CET
IrrationaliTV | May 14, 08:59 CET
eddy | May 14, 09:05 CET
the ninja report | May 14, 09:09 CET
Partly. S.H.I.E.L.D. can be sold as "goodies versus baddies" to the general public whereas Dollhouse was complex and morally ambiguous right from the start. Far harder sell. I would imagine we will get some very dark plotlines from SHIELD down the line but ABC doesn't have to sell that part of the show.
Also you can't get a bigger lead-in than The Avengers.
Simon | May 14, 09:11 CET
malformed | May 14, 09:14 CET
Numfar PTB | May 14, 09:16 CET
CBS: NCIS
ABC: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
NBC: The Biggest Loser
FOX: Dads/Brooklyn 9-9
The CW: probably Hart of Dixie
ABC already tried the superhero family friendly action drama in the same timeslot (= No Ordinary Family) and it bombed. I think AoS will premiere big and then it will settle for 2nd place behind NCIS. Good enough for a s2 renewal.
obillow | May 14, 09:18 CET
jgsugden | May 14, 09:28 CET
My cousin likes to eat her dinner in front of NCIS, it is easy to follow and the good guys always win. I think that Agents of SHIELD will definitely pull in the coveted younger male demo. NCIS does have a faithful following, but even if they win the over all ratings, they will lose (IMO) the coveted demo. I think Tuesday is the best slot for it.
I don't think the results of 'No Ordinary Family' apply since it really didn't have the Marvel's AVENGERS spring board.
embers | May 14, 09:32 CET
Dana5140 | May 14, 09:39 CET
Simon | May 14, 09:45 CET
@theonetruebix | May 14, 09:46 CET
This.
Sunfire | May 14, 09:47 CET
gossi | May 14, 09:48 CET
KingofCretins | May 14, 09:55 CET
D-e-f- | May 14, 09:56 CET
banner | May 14, 10:02 CET
That’s not all. The report also claims that in the future, ABC will “withhold its most recent TV episodes from the free versions of Hulu and ABC.com, further limiting access to paying subscribers of cable and satellite providers only.”
http://techland.time.com/2013/05/13/abc-to-stream-live-tv-in-fight-against-cord-cutters/
JMaloney | May 14, 10:18 CET
hann23 | May 14, 10:20 CET
@theonetruebix | May 14, 10:20 CET
Dana5140 | May 14, 10:29 CET
He also referred to it as a "blockbuster show".
gossi | May 14, 11:02 CET
swanjun | May 14, 11:05 CET
This is great news! I can't believe I'm getting another Whedon show, and in a genre that he should be comfortable in. Tuesday does not interfere with my personal viewing schedule either.
I am slightly concerned about it going up against NCIS though, which is a ratings juggernaut despite it being pretty much a crap show. NCIS, The Walking Dead, and The Big Bang Theory just seem to dominate the ratings these days. Game of Thrones has also been increasing in viewership since its season premiere, but I don't know where its ratings fall in the grand scheme of things.
I'm optimistic though. Hopefully, the huge numbers The Avengers got will translate into ratings for this show
[ edited by Angel&Faith on 2013-05-14 20:15 ]
Angel&Faith | May 14, 11:14 CET
No fucking WAY I'm missing AoS. GREAT time slot - YAY!
Willowy | May 14, 11:14 CET
But then again, when you've watched the brilliance that was The Wire, it becomes hard to ever enjoy another cop or preocedural show again. I do want to watch The Shield at some point though. I heard it was a good show and from the same guy who did Last Resort
Angel&Faith | May 14, 11:23 CET
And also, I was saying that Last Resort and S.H.I.E.L.D. are not of the same genre, which I still believe. I did not say anything about Buffy or Firefly's genres, only their audiences, which are not the same as NCIS' audience.
I'm starting to get the idea that we're all getting defensive about...what, I don't know. But I obviously want Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to succeed just like everyone else. I'm highlighting that certain audiences will tune in for this show, but not others, and vice versa. Also, at no point did I say every middle aged woman on Earth watched NCIS. So I don't know why people are getting defensive about that.
I do completely agree with you about The Wire, and about the blandness of procedural television. But The Wire is just on a whole different level than a good deal of television, especially run of the mill procedurals.
[ edited by the ninja report on 2013-05-14 20:31 ]
the ninja report | May 14, 11:23 CET
swanjun | May 14, 11:30 CET
@theonetruebix | May 14, 11:35 CET
Dean | May 14, 11:44 CET
In Captain Dummy talk, ABC will be saying "Hey kids! There's a show about people investigating aliens and superheroes and the only other thing on is NCIS".
gossi | May 14, 11:45 CET
[ edited by the ninja report on 2013-05-14 20:51 ]
the ninja report | May 14, 11:50 CET
Znachki | May 14, 11:59 CET
Dana5140 | May 14, 13:36 CET
I don't think we should be worrying about if the show can win the night. ABC knows it's taking a chance with a new show as lead in but they know they have a a boat load of potential to create a mainstay on their network and perhaps even cut into the ratings NCIS gets and weakening the other network a bit...
beckyboo | May 14, 14:34 CET
I hope not, though. The trailer looks awesome.
DWTS isn't on all the time, and hopefully the results show will be at 9pm. What? Go Kelly Pickler!
[ edited by redeem147 on 2013-05-14 23:49 ]
redeem147 | May 14, 14:47 CET
Granted I'm not sure if this is a matter like high-profile NBC sitcoms that don't do as well as they hope/pushed and are unceremoniously buried. (I looked it up though and I guess the non-Community sitcoms they heavily pushed did even worse than I thought.)
[ edited by orangewaxlion on 2013-05-15 01:21 ]
orangewaxlion | May 14, 16:21 CET
They are hoping AOS will be all that and more "perfect corporate synergy" leading in to the next MCU movies and expanding that universe. Tuesday @ 8pm is as good as ABC can place it. It was unlikely to dislodge OUAT from Sunday at this point, they're trying to rescue DWTS on Mondays, Wednesdays are a comedy success and Thursday at 8pm is both insanely competitive and historically bad for ABC. And this has never been a 10 pm show, Castle, Scandal and Nashville's placements don't really affect it.
I have enjoyed past seasons of NCIS, though I haven't been a regular viewer since S6. It's probably unlikely that AOS will outperform it in total viewers over the season but the demo is most certainly up for grabs. In fact these days the NCIS demo, whilst being very good in general for TV, is not great for one of the only shows that can still command between 17-25 mill viewers.
Heavs | May 14, 16:23 CET
AOS has a strong built-in advantage in that the characters are already known, at least by some. It has a disadvantage in that all the characters are known by some, but not all... And since it is in the Marvel/Disney universe, this ups the challenge on Joss to write the story he wishes to tell, without interference from TPTB. Could be subversive!
Dana5140 | May 14, 16:29 CET
In 2010 TVBYTHENUMBERS ran the numbers and found that exactly 3 non-animated shows, in the week preceding the article's publication, out of all the shows then on the 5 Networks, skewed more male than female. They were Chuck, Fringe and 24. RIP. 24 is returning and maybe a new show or two has stepped into the gap in the meantime, but even if that's true then it's still practically nothing.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/04/28/ladies-night-few-broadcast-primetime-shows-draw-more-men-than-women/50011/
[ edited by Risch22 on 2013-05-15 12:18 ]
Risch22 | May 15, 03:09 CET
eddy | May 15, 06:47 CET
(I did read somewhere that NCIS is hugely popular with conservatives, which I am emphatically not, so I guess I am unusual in that regard. I don't quite get the appeal to conservatives of a show about government employees doing a good job, though)
@Dana5140: how do you get a ship name "TiVa" with an uppercase V? Surely more like Tova (for letter-count-equality) or perhaps "DiNoVa" :)
sab39 | May 15, 09:06 CET