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June 15 2013

Five favorite films with Joss Whedon. Rotten Tomatoes' Grae Drake speaks with our Jossir about five of his favorite movies, as well as "Much Ado About Nothing."

I love when Joss answers the 'favorites and inspirations' question. The last time he did this he introduced me to Frank Borzage.
The Court Jester, hee! Who doesn't love The Court Jester?
Because "The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!" Also: Glynis Johns, Angela Lansbury, Mildred Natwick, so extra yeahs.

I knew about the other four, which Joss has mentioned numerous times, but I'd missed his love for "The Court Jester."

I love "The Bad and the Beautiful" - one of the cruellest cinema moments is Elaine Stewart's delivery of, "I forgot to tell you, Georgia, I saw the picture. Thought you were swell."

And yet indeed, "so florid & so completely over the top" - Lana Turner's Wild Ride springs to mind. It's so too much and melodramatic and she should never have survived all those out-of-control spins down a hilly road, but somehow it works.

Plus: it has Gloria Grahame & Dick Powell. So: more yeah.
The Court Jester is streaming for $0.00 to Amazon Prime members. I smell microwave popcorn and greatness.
Never ever heard Joss give love to Magnolia before. That's pretty much my favorite as well, at least in top 5, and sometimes that sucks because people have really bad reactions to that movie. Glad to feel a little more justified today!
In another interview he talked at length about Brigadoon, but of course here he was going for 5 very eclectic picks with little or nothing in common.
Just watched Once Upon a Time in the West on AMC. I don't think I had ever seen it all the way through. Couldn't agree with Joss's assessment more. Brilliant cinematography. Operatic. Badass "good guy" with his own theme music, based upon a devastating event. And, to add to Joss's assessment, who couldn't love Henry Fonda and his cold blue eyes as the villain.

I'm not sure I would have noticed it on the TV schedule today had it not been for this thread. Glad I saw the thread early.

I loved Danny Kaye's films when I was young, but most of them don't hold up very well for me. The Court Jester is one of those that I still have a fondness for.

I'm going to have to watch Magnolia. I've managed to miss it over the years. And I never saw The Bad and the Beautiful until after I read that it was one of Joss's favorites. I try to catch it whenever it shows up on the TV schedule.
Didn't realize that was a double post and not an edit!

[ edited by DaddyCatALSO on 2013-06-15 21:33 ]
" "The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true!"

Yes, and since he could shoehorn "'To Serve Man' is a cookbook " into BtVS dialogue, I'm very disappointed that never showed up, whether in Dawn's valediction or elsewhere.

Also dispappointed we never saw Gary Gygax's idea for a "jester" class in AD&D. I was itching to write up Giacomo as a dual-class Jester-Assassin for Dragon magazine's Giants In the Earth feature. Sigh.

I also like _The Bad and The Beautiful_, and stumbled on my copy by lucky accident. I think I have a copy of _the Matrix_, I guess I *should* watch it one of these days. Not familiar wiht the other two.

Another disapointment is that Joss never got the chance to write an ep. of BtVS or Angel in Elizabethan English.
Well that would have been interesting. I think Angel would have lent itself quite nicely to that.
Magnolia is a masterpiece.

Here's how much of a masterpiece Magnolia is. The middle hour seems like its in real time but only covers half an hour of real time action so that he can show all of the character's reactions to the quiz show or reflect what they're doing while its on. PTA is constantly doubling back in time, meanwhiling essentially in the comic book sense of the word. The closing titles go on *forever*. Then once they're over we're back into the original time scheme of the first hour.

Here's the thing: arguably there are sections of The Avengers which only make narrative sense if you rationalise that Joss is doing something similar ...
DaddyCatALSO: "Another disapointment is that Joss never got the chance to write an ep. of BtVS or Angel in Elizabethan English."

Simon: "Well that would have been interesting. I think Angel would have lent itself quite nicely to that."

So very much yeah.

This of course simply *forces* me to link to, once again, these lovely verses from Whedonesque's own catherine. There are a number of them that are Angel-related.

You know, I don't rightly reckon now that I had heard tell of Joss' love of "Magnolia." Think mebbe instead it was "Steel Magnolias". ; ]

I've also managed to skip "Magnolia" for various reasons... guess mebbe now I'll haul it out of the cabinet - we own it, I've just avoided it - and give it a whirl.
Because of the interview, I've decided to watch my new DVD of Magnolia (I have the VHS and hadn't watched in a long time.) Patton Oswald is in it, as the card dealer. Coincidence?

And of course there's Aimee "I hate playing vampire towns" Mann.

[ edited by redeem147 on 2013-06-16 00:57 ]
Aw, hoped he would throw THE BAND WAGON up on his list because I do love a great Astaire movie...
I had no idea Joss listed Magnolia as one of top 5. It is probably in my top 2. I love PTA movies. Aside from the reference in OMwF, I never saw him reference it before. Neat!

Edit to say, if anyone's wondering, it's Xander's line "tame the donut, respect the cruller." I'll let you find out what it is in Magnolia.

[ edited by CaptainB on 2013-06-16 02:34 ]
I think he talked about his love about PTA during the comentary in the body, when the doctor came out to speak to Buffy about Joyce´s death, during the long one take that followed him, inspired by PTA. But dont trust my memory completely...

Edit to say... I love Magnolia too. And it wasnt a Donut Tom was talking about... ;)

[ edited by Darkness on 2013-06-16 03:05 ]
I should have made that connection, since my wife like to make fun at my pointing out of masterful "oners" done by PTA and Joss.
Here's the thing: arguably there are sections of The Avengers which only make narrative sense if you rationalise that Joss is doing something similar ...


Ooooh, do tell.
Ahhh, Magnolia! One of the best movies ever. I don't watch it very often because it takes too long to pick up my blown mind afterwards. It's a bit like my favorite book, Imajica, in that it's HUGELY ambitious and seemingly scattered. You wonder how they can possibly pull it all together, but they do.

Time to watch it again, and dust off my Danny Kaye collection...
I am so happy that Joss lists one of my favorite movies as one of his favorites. Magnolia is a masterpiece and it blew my mind when I first saw it. PTA is my favorite director. (Joss is my favorite of all things ever so...)

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