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June 30 2013

Making Shakespeare sound modern. This National Post article uses Joss' work as a jumping off point to discuss giving Shakespeare a natural sound.

I've always wanted to see 'Vanya on 42nd Street', and I do think the comparison must be a great compliment to what Joss achieved with 'Much Ado'.
Richard Loncraine's 1995 "Richard III" was the first example of a film that made Shakespeare's language sound completely natural. The staging of some of the lines, like Richard's opening soliloquy (its first part turned into a speech at the banquet, switching into Richard's soliloquy in the privacy of a loo), was brilliant.
"its first part turned into a speech at the banquet, switching into Richard's soliloquy in the privacy " Ever since I'd first seen that play, I figured Using a different visulaization) that would be a good way to do that.
Great article. And while i adore Elliot, both as a critic (wich doesnt mean, like here, that i agree always with him, as he pointed out, no even really the point) and poet, and as much i adore good old Bill Shakespeare, the greatest prose writer of Shakesperes age was Cervantes. In fact the greates prose writer of any age still is Cervantes.

I do think Branags Henry V was even better than Loncranes Richard III at making Billīs verse sound natural, in my view at least. Not to deny mi love of Loncranes version, witch even has a small role for mister Iron Man himself.

[ edited by Darkness on 2013-07-01 20:33 ]
I've always wanted to see 'Vanya on 42nd Street'

Oh do: it's wonderful; and the comparison to Joss's MAAN is apt.

the greatest prose writer of Shakesperes age was Cervantes

I think there's an implicit "in English" in Eliot's comment.
Darkness, Yoinks: Yes, that is always a difficult thing to evaluate amongst different languages.

On the other hand, the classical formula of Euripides, Sophocles, and Shakespeare, with honorable mention to Aeschylus, as the Three Great Tragedians, and Aristophanes, Shakespeare, and Moliere as the Three Great Comedians, is easier to justify (for those who buy it in the first place) since it's based on form and content rather than language stylings. (Does that make Marlowe , Shakespeare -for the histories, mainly-, and Ibsen the Three Great Melodramatists?)

[ edited by DaddyCatALSO on 2013-07-02 22:09 ]
Yoink: I read something similar on one of Elliots original texts and i think i recall it not being the case, but its probable i was just misremembering, its not like i memorized it or something nor the first time memory plays tricks on me, so its very likely that you are right. Highly possible al least. Good call. ;)
DaddyCatalso: In love, three might be too many, but in this case, i think they are too few. List of "the three greatsest" is always going to be suicide to me: "The Best", well, sort of an act of devotion and admiration, a sort of "if i had to choose, with a gun to my belly, one, just one", but there are too many greats that have written drama, comedy or melodrama to go any route besides "the Best" that i would find satisfactory in any way... Personally, of course.

Anyway, despite my nitpickings here, im not much of a believer in lists... ;)

PD: Vanya is a must see for anybody interested in theatre. I recommend it too.

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[ edited by Darkness on 2013-07-01 22:26 ]
Darkness, Yoink: Eliot also famously said "Dante and Shakespeare divide the modern world between them, there is no third." So I think his assertions about Shakespeare can safely be thought to include comparisons to writers of all languages.

[ edited by Bishop on 2013-07-01 22:55 ]
Darkness, Bishop; I mostlly agree- when I make a list of anything (well, since I got out of high school) I admit it's basically a list of what grabs me.

And despite whatever I've said about Joss in other threads, I'd make some effort to see this.

[ edited by DaddyCatALSO on 2013-07-02 22:09 ]

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