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March 05
2004
Saving Angel postcard campaign-update March 3.
New strategy focusing on Time Warner (who is over WB's Levin) and Tribune Broadcasting.
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twiggy | March 05, 01:51 CET
RootBoy42 | March 05, 02:18 CET
phlebotinin | March 05, 02:43 CET
BlindHawkeyes | March 05, 03:54 CET
RavenU | March 05, 04:40 CET
bloodflowers | March 05, 04:52 CET
(edited for spelling error...which shows you how NOT erudite I am!)
[ edited by phlebotinin on 2004-03-05 03:00 ]
phlebotinin | March 05, 04:55 CET
bloodflowers | March 05, 05:00 CET
phlebotinin | March 05, 05:08 CET
bloodflowers | March 05, 05:15 CET
RavenU | March 05, 05:51 CET
Angel, Buffy, and Firefly are not safe investments and dependable money makers. The demographic is not wide and certain. Those who are fans of the show are often avid and vocal, but a larger percentage of people either watch it and have no reaction, or they have an adverse reaction, because something about the fictional world Whedon weaves goes against the grain of how they like to view the world. So they opt not to return. And an even larger percentage of potential audience members make assumptions about a Whedon show before they even watch it, and therefore shoot it down before giving it a chance.
Whedon's programming goes against the grain of traditional thought. He breaks conventional guidelines of storytelling and introduces characters who are not quite that predictable. To Whedon, good and evil are not absolutes. They're descriptors but they're not concrete definitions of people. That is why you and I like Whedon's programs. That is also why networks hurting for advertising dollars do not like them. When one can make a Survivor clone for a fraction of the cost of actual art, and make just as much money, one will go the cheaper route to increase one's profit margin.
We are fighting a losing battle.
ZachsMind | March 05, 07:31 CET
bloodflowers -- may your little friend from New Orleans wreak perpetual havoc on That Miserable Hack of the WB! May your sticking pins be ever sharp!
Cackling, voodoo dolls, sharp pins. This is not good. Well, Jordan Levin drove me/us to it. Let that be my/our defense.
phlebotinin | March 05, 07:31 CET
jack knight | March 05, 07:34 CET
Phlebotinin and Bloodflowers, you guys just cracked me up! Can I have a voodoo dolly too?
Firefly Flanatic | March 05, 07:34 CET
Firefly Flanatic | March 05, 07:39 CET
Zach - Angel wasn't canceled because of rating as it was canceled because of money - the WB doesn't like to spend it and FOX likes to charge it. Everything is about the bottom line and if anything was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's that ratings can be changed to fit a need on a whim. Nielsen has already re-did the changes it made which increased it overall sample size but cost the network by skewing major demographic numbers toward the downside.
[ edited by RavenU on 2004-03-05 06:12 ]
RavenU | March 05, 08:07 CET
BlindHawkeyes | March 05, 08:10 CET
blwessels, I insist you get a voodoo dolly, too! The more the merrier. And merry it shall be, because really, what fun can't you have with a dolly and some sharp pins?
ZachsMind, I agree that our cultural climate (in the U.S. anyway) has lately become much too conservative, fearful of difference and dependent upon simplistic good-evil dichotomies to well tolerate the iconoclastic creativity of someone like Joss Whedon. Wretched, rock-bottom dreck gets renewed. Soothing simplistic stuff gets renewed. Fairly good to pretty darn good sometimes gets renewed. Truly groundbreaking creative brilliance always -- always -- gets stamped on by the jack-booted networks and entertainment industry hacks. I am amazed that we got seven years of Buffy and five of Angel. The less said about the horror of Fox's treatment of Firefly the better. I'll start to froth and spittle will fly and my keyboard will get all gummy.
But this kind of cultural climate we're in strikes me as nothing new. It's more a matter of degrees. Sometimes the climate is more accepting, sometimes it's less accepting, but to me it seems a matter of inches rather than miles. The great majority of commercial entertainment has in my memory and the memory of my parents and grandparents always been mediocre to crappy, lacking in subtlety, complexity and narrative risk. When someone like a Joss Whedon comes along, it's celebration time. Enjoy it while you can. For me, before Whedon was David Lynch's Twin Peaks, which as far as I'm concerned was great, groundbreaking television. Flawed, sometimes annoyingly pompous, but great. I'm sure people can think of other examples. They are few, but they exist.
And they will continue to exist. At the risk of sounding maudlin, many of us may remember the past eight years of Whedon-graced tv as our "one brief shining moment," a tv Camelot. But I don't doubt that something else will come along and dazzle us with its brilliance. No cultural climate stamps out all creativity, no matter how harsh.
We will always be fighting a losing battle in the larger sense. That's status quo. From time to time, though, the creative side will score a stunning success.
And Wonderfalls does look pretty darn good.
phlebotinin | March 05, 08:16 CET
pezwitch | March 05, 09:58 CET