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November 04 2013

Rumour: Captain America: The Winter Soldier will be connected to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. ComicBook.com got this from a "a source close to the production".

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. It proves Marvel and Disney see the show as a way to promote the movies. If we're lucky, maybe Ant-Man will be a part of the show.

[ edited by impalergeneral on 2013-11-04 18:39 ]
I always assumed this would happen, actually, and probably the turmoil surrounding Coulson's discovery of the truth about his "death" will connect with the larger upheaval inside SHIELD as we saw in The Winter Soldier trailer.
With the announcement that Thor 2 had connections to SHIELD I assumed most of the other movies would at the very least be referenced in the show.
This is pretty cool, though I guess not surprising. I mean how could a show about SHIELD not take account of what's happening in the Marvel movies?
Just read an interview with Cobie Smulders, and she mentioned that WS will feature SHIELD heavily, so this makes sense.
I already hypothesized some time ago that the titular Winter Soldier character from Captain America 2 could be connected to the Centipede project and the organization behind it...
If something that happens in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is important in Avengers 2, then the circle will be complete.
While I enjoy the easter eggs and tie-ins, I'm just dying to see some of the sparkle that I was expecting when the show came out. I knew Coulson would be pretty even keel, but no other character has grabbed me. The joy of Coulson in the films was that he was playing off of really charismatic people. They don't really exist here. Will this have the same 'hook me' moment that Dollhouse did in episode 6 (Man on the Street)? I really hope so.
Well, considering how S.H.I.E.L.D. centric the trailers made it seem, not surprised at all. Although the timeline might be shifty, read somewhere that Cap2 events are supposed to be like 2 years after The Avengers.
Numfar PTB Winter Soldier will be two years after the Battle of New York - Avengers came out last year, Cap2 will be out next year. Maybe not precisely two years, but close enough.

The first season of SHIELD will end just before the events of Winter Soldier, I believe.

Oh boy. Someone better make a timeline! It's getting too confusing! I can't imagine being Joss (or any other writer) trying to keep all the facts and times straight.

CasualFanatic I think too many people are going into SHIELD expecting it to be another "Buffy" or "Firefly" because Joss is attached to it. And a lot of other people are going into it expecting it to be more superhero-y. It's not either. Joss is only lightly involved right now (Kinda busy with a couple little movies) and he said from the outset that the show as about the "regular people," not the ones running around in costumes.

I'm enjoying it. There's enough intrigue going on to keep me wondering, keep me guessing. I don't know anything about the Marvel Universe, so I'm not expecting anything, not getting upset when something is changed from the comics. I'm just along for the ride, and so far it's been fun!

We really don't know a whole lot about Coulson (as presented in the movies) so seeing him in charge of a group of agents, and apparently unaware of just what happened after he died, is interesting. It might be a bit slow-going for some folks, but if they just focused solely on him people would be complaining "Fitz/Simmons/May isn't getting enough screen time!" or "I thought there was going to be more..." fill-in-the-blank.

I'm here for the duration. Whether that's one season, or eight. It's something totally different from what else is out there on broadcast, and I'm content to let it take its time, because I know the payoff will be worth it. Plus? Coulson Lives!
It would make sense since The Winter Soldier film is going to be so S.H.I.E.L.D. centric.
Winter Soldier comes out 4/4/14 in the US and ABC tentpole shows usually go at least 2 or 3 weeks into May (for sweeps) so it is likely that there may be 4-6 new AoS episodes that air after the Captain America release.
I think the more layers it can develop, the better. Badass Digest has a good article on how Marvel is, starting with Phase II, attempting to interlock all of its franchises in a way to ensure you have to watch each one to really understand the full MCU, whereas DC Comics is trying to launch from a premise (Batman vs. Superman) that has no expanded universe (new Batman, newish Superman, ignoring Nolan's films).

If Marvel can keep their continuity straight, SHIELD should benefit the most from the tie-ins. The more we can explore the Marvel universe as a whole outside of the 2 hours you spend at the movie theater, the better.

[ edited by the ninja report on 2013-11-05 14:33 ]
ShadowQuest - My expectation of sparkle came from the fact that the writers of my favorite Dollhouse episodes ("Belonging" and "Epitaphs I and II"), Jed and Maurissa, were going to be running the show. The way I see it, Coulson, May, and Dalton are all stiffs by design. Skye is the trade-mark Whedon wise-cracker. FitzSimmons are just techno-babble mixed with cuteness and they haven't given me any reason to care if they live or die.

My issue is that the stories are fine...it's the characters that are weak. Or maybe it's the actors. I don't know. I haven't given up (I know better than that with anything Whedon related), but I may tune out if it's only as good as Once Upon a Time (which was okay, but not great).

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