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November 14 2013

(SPOILER) Comic book references in this week's Agents of SHIELD episode. Did you spot them all?

Nope, like I said in my Thor 2 post, I've become quite aware that I know very little about the Marvel verse. And it's really annoying - which I want to rectify.

Are there good cartoon series that could help me out? I could watch them with my kids - so it would be a twofer.

And I missed The Tardis.
hann23: speaking as a huge Marvel comics fan, I'd like to say that I was very impressed with the 'Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon series that ran from 2010-2012 for two seasons.

It's a big shame that the series wasn't continued as they wanted to replace it with a new cartoon called Avengers Assemble, which is meant to more directly reflect the line-up and appearances from the big movies (whereas EMH was more faithful to the comics). A big shame indeed, as the new cartoon really isn't all that interesting, and I think it'll be hard to find anyone who says it's better than EMH.

But EMH does wrap itself up well, I've read people argue that the later episodes weren't so good but I thought it stayed strong for the full length both of its seasons. I thoroughly enjoyed it - even though 5 of my most favourite Avengers were among the very few characters not to feature in it! (Those being Hercules, Beast, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Monica 'Captain Marvel' Rambeau)

Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes should also be a cool show to watch with kids. I'd highly reccomend it.
To add to my previous post: that new Avengers Assemble cartoon is a current series which shares its continuity with two other current, on-going cartoons: 'Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.' (with Eliza Dushu doing one of the voices) and 'Ultimate Spider-Man' which features Clark Gregg as Coulson.
I haven't seen more than two episodes of Assemble and I haven't seen any Hulk episodes yet, and only just started giving the Spider-Man cartoon another chance - I initially thought it was a bit too silly, but on a second try it does seem quite alright.

Many Marvel characters show up in 'Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' with depictions faithful to the comic book characters, and the stories are strongly rooted in the comic books, but be aware that the continuity of the series is not shared with any other show.
The author (along with most of the internet) brings up the idea of Coulson being a LMD. I've felt for a while that this was too obvious. I'm not exactly sure what is going on instead, but I find it hard to believe that Joss and Company would write a line about Coulson being a "robot version" of himself without it being a red herring. Thoughts?
I was thinking the same thing. I've seen countless of guesses that he's an LMD, and of course people have been thinking that Coulson might be set up for the synthezoid character called the Vision months before AoS started - if it would actually be the case, the 'big reveal' would fall flat as nobody would be surprised anymore.

I have a different theory on what could be going on with Coulson, I'll hide the text for anybody who doesn't want to be influenced by any speculations:

I missed the TARDIS in Fitz's bunk but of course there were Tumblr posts about it almost immediately.
Valentijn, I think that's the only alternative to the LMD theory I've heard yet that seems like it could be interesting and not ridiculous. I do, however, hope we get to see at least *someone* turn out to be an LMD, this being a show about SHIELD and all.
Squishy - thanks! I agree that there should be something with LMD's sooner or later as well. But for Coulson, it would be way too disappointing.

Also, it would be hard to have it make sense, as Coulson's death was the lie that brought the Avengers together - why work so hard to create someone's duplicate and then pretending it to be the real thing, when it could very possibly shatter the Avengers' foundations and piss off Iron Man, Thor, Captain America... or green & worse?

In my dream vision (no pun intended) of the theory I posted above, I could also see
Hey, maybe someone can add to this comment: "Victoria Hand is an openly lesbian character in the comics, and is one of the first openly gay Avengers/S.H.I.E.L.D. agents."

Are there other openly gay Avengers/SHIELD agents? I usually do not follow marvel (I am a DC fan), so I am not up on this, except for Northstar.

[ edited by Dana5140 on 2013-11-14 20:38 ]
What is the intended level of continuity between comics and the Agents TV series? While I haven't read the comics (any of them), I'm OK with references; even if I don't know what they're talking about, it helps establish the existence and scope of a larger SHIELD organization.

But the linked page points out a couple of obvious discrepancies. (LMD possibilities aside). Are these considered problematic?
The show and the Avengers movies are obviously intended to share one continuity, but while they contain nods to different comics, and maybe other Marvel character films, there are too many differences for them to share continuity.

There are key elements taken from the alternate Marvel Universe called 'The Ultimates', there are others taken from the original Marvel Universe, but both are contradicted by the show at times, for example in ways that would reference mutants and the X-Men sharing the same world.

I think a good comparison would be the relationship between old and new BSG, there are similarities, but ultimately there is no way for them to share the same continuity.
Thanks, Risch22, that makes sense.
Huh, that's interesting. Well, I started Avengers: Earth Mightiest Heroes and it's good. It's deliberate use of names of people, places and things is helpful.

It's on Netflix, of course.

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