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November 27 2013

(SPOILER) Discuss tonight's episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. The episode is titled "Repairs" and was written by Maurissa Tancharoen and Jed Whedon.

(Perry Ferrel)
Here we GO!
(/PF)
And assault by canned goods. And BOOM!
May is not into snuggles.
Follow the plan, eh?
Bringing along Warm, and fuzzy. Nice.
But which one is Warm, and which is Fuzzy?
Prankery is afoot!
No tie, good idea.
Don't touch the TOYS!
Uhhhhm, it's a spook!
Horror movie tropes people! Stay frosty.
Awesome...this might end up being even more of a Thor 2 followup than last episode.
May has "Serious Face".
I'm not here to scare you, I just need you as bait.
May wins the prank war.
So, not only was it Ward in the room, but this wasn't the first time. May's back story is still too vague for my taste, but they are giving us something. Including that cute bit at the very end. I like the idea of playing Skye's empathy, to give her a second skill set that the team needs. And it's going to be a long two weeks til our next episode, with a possible old friend becoming a regular character?
Pretty good episode tonight.Got more insight into May and liked the coda at the end where she pranked Fitz.
Good stuff. Not spectacular from a story standpoint, but I do feel a quiet consistency building.
I really liked this one. There were some good moments with every character and it fitted together nicely without too much in the way of awkward plot contrivances or moments where the writing felt forced. And the way things played out made sense without being predictable or feeling cliche.

I feel like it might have been more interesting to allow the hostility between Skye and May to continue into future episodes rather than wrapping it up neatly in this one, though. Conflict within the team makes for interesting plots. I hope they're not going to try to re-introduce that when Skye finds out about MayWard... THAT would be predictable, not to mention cheesy.
OMG Agent Coulson told warm!May THAT?! Coulson that is not how you comfort someone!

No wonder she became cold!May ;___; me thinks Phil is guilty and May kinda hates the old him and wants to protect new Coulson because he's no longer that way.

I love we learned something about May AND Coulson.

Prank wars and demons -- for a second I thought I was still watching Supernatural ;)

Top faves right now in order Coulson, Simmons, May, Fitz (I have a feeling he might be moving closer to the top of the list) and then Ward (he's no longer in my dislike list).

Skye is still irks me. But I don't hate her as much as when AoS first started.
"Repairs" was such a wonderfully enjoyable episode. There was a great consistency in it. I loved getting to know a vague understanding of why Melinda May doesn't like being nicknamed "the Cavalry". I also feel much closer to the lead characters after this, and the plotline that got it going was very well done. But I really did want a continuation of Coulson's existential insights.

Y'know, the LMD thingy.
Any one want to bet that nothing further about Melinda's background will be revealed for some time to come? It's good we have some elucidation about where her nickname came from, but the whole "she still won't talk about it" seems like a plot point where the viewers are left to imagine what kind of horrible action could have been taken by her to wipe out the opposing force by her lonesome and leaver her mentally compromised enough to suffer flashbacks equivalent to the full Berserker Staff every day. I'm not sure anything we would be shone could live up to that kind of hype...but I'm sure the Whedons will try their hardest!

;P

Also, was anyone else intrigued by how Repairs counterbalanced The Well for exploring religion/magic vs. science as the explanation for how things are happening? Certainly, both episodes ended up basically arguing Clarke's Law by having the mystical be fuzzily-understood quantum physics, but the idea of humans labelling things we don't understand as acts of God/gods seems to pick up the torch from Buffy and Angel of exploring why we believe in God and the Devil and miracles and curses from the viewpoint of the skeptic. Makes me wonder if Simmons as the strongest voice of nay-saying re: mystical forces and powers isn't at the beginning of an arc about her rationalism and certainty in scientific methods being tested as cases pop up where it becomes more and more difficult to explain away some event as having been caused by a scientifically quantifiable source.
So, not only was it Ward in the room, but this wasn't the first time.


My impression is that this was a different night than what we saw in the last episode. Maybe a few days later, maybe a couple weeks later.
Very enjoyable. This was a nice balance of humor and puzzle. In fact I can't think of anything atm worth a nit pick, much less a serious criticism. I think the pranking is a very nice idea and as long as its handled judiciously a useful addition.
JDL, I agree completely. Solid episode, very thoughtfully constructed, both on a logical and emotional POV. I liked that we're gradually told what went down in Melinda's past rather than shown, even if I think the subject will surely come back later on. I'm also happy that the first romantic connection on the show came out of left field rather the overtly announced Ward-Skye pairing, which will probably happen anyway, but May/Ward is another, cynical, more "adult" dynamic that can only make the two characters more interesting. Laughed out loud with the prank storyline, which injected humour into the episode, as well.
I enjoyed this Ep. Liked the comedy, the use of the different tellings of the Cavalry story, the tension of them on the dark plane, the inventiveness of the fight scenes and that we actually got to see May fight rather than lots of quick edits.

I did have one nit-pick: they've wired a plane meant for dealing with top secret dangerous things such that you can dismantle its power with one swipe in a single panel?! There's no redundancy in wiring or power supply? Took me out of it for a bit.

Also didn't quite like the implication that May was telling the 'Demon' to literally go to Hell (or a hellish place at least) when he'd made a mistake that had killed people. Seemed a bit of an odd message to send, rather extreme.
Bluey, I think it's important to understand where May is coming from in that scene. She's coming from the perspective of not being able to forgive herself and feeling like she's done something so horrific she doesn't deserve to be forgiven for it by anyone else either, it's more about her than it is the "demon" guy.
10 seconds in, and I'm already nitpicking: If this is in Utah, the age for tobacco is 19 and that sign is wrong. Sorry, carry on.

(Having now watched the whole thing)
Nice little episode. The plot was a bit thin, but the character moments made up for it. I particularly liked Coulson telling Skye he has plans for her becoming the best at the "Welcome Wagon" thing. And finding out more about May - not a lot of detail, but enough to start to understand her and why she didn't want to be in the field. I'm more curious than ever about her past with Coulson, though.
They're really on a quality roll with the episodes I think. Loved the horrorish of the episode too, it reminded me of early Angel where things got changed up each episode.
I really enjoyed it. I liked how May's coolness is now a plot point. They are going deeper, as I suspected they would. I really think that the show is trying to truly personify how spy operatives would engage in the field as a team, under strange circumstances. These are folks trained to keep it in. The layers are peeling slowly.

Now, I have to get my friends and family back on board, although my husband never stopped watching. He's a good barometer for me.

And J. August Ruchards next week already looks amazing in the promo.

[ edited by hann23 on 2013-11-27 14:39 ]
I thought this episode came across like a filler episode of Supernatural, not a Sweeps episode of a tentpole action series.

It kills me to say it, but I'm beginning to think this show just isn't for me.
Another big ball of meh. Worrying that this was written by the showrunners. You'd expect something bigger and better.
I don't understand the relationships. They seem forced. Actually it's just Skye, I don't understand Skye's relationships with anyone.
Well, I could mostly follow this one.
Thought the show was .... fine. Maybe a step behind the last couple weeks, but entertaining enough. Liked the conversations between folks that also alluded to other people - Skye w/ captive and May to GhostDude. The Fitz prank stuff was cute.

I enjoy the show - but do believe it's time to ramp up the speed of discovery and begin delivering on what's been hinted at. My take away from the showrunner interviews posted earlier this week was that Jed n' Mo had a fairly assumptive view of their long range plans. The two years they've mapped no doubt reaches some type of climax - the problem being that TV audiences today demand quicker resolution and some folks may not get their with them.

I remember the last years of the X-Files when the frustration settled in as the writers delayed and confused any real resolution to the myriad of plot lines that seemed so intriguing early on -

I like the potential back stories we've been given on Ward, May, Skye (still my favorite character) and Coulson. Now please deliver on those -
Maybe it's because I read too much Dean Koontz as a kid, but I was sorta hoping for a double fakeout, where this dude actually turned out to be a figment of her brain (due to her guilt at ignoring safety red flags) manifest through her psychokinetic abilities.
Tall!ichaelJ, I generally agree with your assessment of this episode, but not that modern audiences can't wait for payoff. Breaking Bad did have plenty of payoff along the way, but the central payoff that the show was centered around was very gradual. It took many episodes to "turn Mr. Chips into Scaface," and it became a very successful AMC drama. They do not need to compress two seasons into one, just perhaps make it more interesting along the way and build it right.
The best thing a TV show can do is make you use your imagination. I don't want everything spelled out and in a neat little package. The partial May reveal was satisfying to me because I had already intuited she either did something she regretted (to make her want the desk job and then bitterly protest she didn't want to go back out "into the field") or something was done to her. So, she was their River, who did what she had to do to protect her own. It wasn't exciting like last week, but on an emotional level, it felt deeper. I like very much what Mr. Arg said in this topic:

but I do feel a quiet consistency building.

Exactly.
I was really tired from work when I watched this so I dozed off a few times. Waiting to rewatch to accurately judge. I know I didnt like the religous part though.
PaperSpock - I'd argue that what SHIELD is currently missing is a clear cut end game that shows like Sopranos,Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc. have. Every season has an understood objective (leave the farm, kill the dealer, fight the governor, etc.) with each weekly episode moving the players further down the board ...

I like the characters just fine, and I'm generally pleased with the writing, but what is keeping this show in my "good but not great" column is that it leans more towards Kolchak the Night Stalker and his Monster of the Week, (dating myself there) than previous Whedon efforts which had their share of MOTW, but still managed to keep things in Forward Ho! mode
Well, we knew from the first that May had experienced something ugly enough to want to keep her out of the field. We knew from her conversation with Coulson that it took her a long time to get over it, to the extent that she had. We knew as of last week, it was something she relived at some level every day and that was why she was so disciplined that she could handle the berserker staff and not be taken over by it. If she took out a whole lot of people single-handedly, she indeed must have gone into some kind of Riverine trance where she could fight and do a whole lot of damage without thinking about it. But this show is the one that's not about superheroes. So May is suffering the aftereffects, the PTSD that a genuine person would after an event like that.

And while we're on the subject of Asgardian technology, I'm thinking now that last week's episode maybe had some clues about how Coulson was brought back to life, and where "Tahiti" really is. I think someone says outright that Asgard is a magic place, or if not, at least that Asgardian artifacts are magic, before Simmons comes in with the debunking about how it's really just a different dimension. And throughout the episode, Coulson talks about having had a bad encounter with Asgardian technology. If he had been transported to Asgard to be brought back to life, or worse maybe is being kept alive by Asgardian means, he might not be real happy about that. At least it wouldn't be as predictable as an LMD.
I knew Marvel was cheap but this is ridiculous. Or they have a terrible budget or they don't know how to use it.

With the exception of the teaser, we were in the plane for most of the episode and - when we get out - we go right into a barn! Genius!

I knew Marvel was cheap but this is ridiculous. Or they have a terrible budget or they don't know how to use it.

With the exception of the teaser, we were in the plane for most of the episode and - when we get out - we go right into a barn! Genius!


Unless it detracted from the show why does it matter? If it did detract you failed to show how.
I thought this episode came across like a filler episode of Supernatural

Huh, I was thinking the exact same thing from the very start. It was like a Supernatural episode, a bad Supernatural episode.

I found this was boring as all hell. And the "comedy" feels so forced and unnatural to me. The writing, again, was very thin and predictable. Also Skye gets worse every episode. I actually liked her at the start of the season, but now it's cringe worthy every time she speaks.

[ edited by Kaan on 2013-11-27 19:22 ]
Just not my favorite episode... Too much running around in the dark with a ghost, who I never believed was any actual real risk to anyone. Light, fluffy, horror.

It honestly seems to me like they're re-writing Skye as they go. She was introduced as an expert hacker - they've minimized that out of the character and played with her being an amateur field agent. She was introduced as guarded and suspicious to the point of being a borderline conspiracy nut, but she's become the most emotionally open, available and trusting member of the team. The downside to this is that I think she comes off as very naive at times - not helped by Fitz-Simmons pranking her (with no push back from her) or what the situation MayGrant behind her back. (Yes, I'm absolutely stealing MayGrant.) Maybe this is a designed character arc and they're putting her heart out there now to set it up for the big hurt later, but... I'd like to see more of her self-reliance, confidence (even ego) and edgy banter brought back. Not hating the character, but just not as happy with the softer, kinder, gentler mark we're getting at the moment.
I find it amazing how the opinions go so drastically into opposite directions for everyone.

Some people adore Skye, some outright despise. Some people are bored to tears, others are having a blast. And we're not just some random assortment of people commenting on a mass-audience site. We're mostly here for a shared, relatively specific passion.

As for my thoughts on the episode: Liked it a lot as I'm on board with all the characters at this point. What keeps gnawing away at me is the May/Skye relationship. For some reason I can't get it out of my head that there is more history there. That the "Cavalry" incident is somehow related to Skye's orphan-situation. But there are also things that throw a monkey wrench into that theory, though that could be explained away if one really wanted to.

The show continues to keep me speculating. Also, Fitz & Simmons being silly = still the best thing ever.
Thought this was another really cool episode. The spooky effects were at times quite thrilling, I really liked the way that was filmed and the special effects looked great too. The dimension-jumping was somewhat reminiscent of Nightcrawler's teleportation in X-Men 2 (which might not be a coincidence as Nightcrawler's teleportation is explained by the character travelling through another dimension).
Fitz' unfortunate poorly-timed prank was proportionally well timed in regards to the episode: it was on the spot for a proper scare & a joke. The extra scene (May's prank) was just excellent. The response from the different team members to May's character worked very well - I really thought it was all very well done.

I agree with all the positive things in the above comments! (And probably in all the comments to follow as well.)

We didn't get any follow-up on the secret behind Coulson & the Tahiti nightmare he had at the end of last week's episode though. I wonder if they'll save it up for the season finale or if there's still going to be some mid-season special where we'll find out more?
I'm still sticking by the theory & season finale wish I've had since the very start of the series (already posted here a couple of weeks ago, but I'll just repeat myself in invisible text should people not appreciate any speculation influence)
Anyone else notice the 616 reference?

EDIT: Oops, old news, they've mentioned it before. Still, relevant to the dimension hopping.

[ edited by kreider204 on 2013-11-27 23:36 ]
I agree that it's developing a quiet consistency. This episode wasn't my favorite (I really liked the previous two) but it was entertaining and the pranking and humor seemed relatively organic. I dislike Skye less now, which is an improvement. I did like that she referred to them as Warm and Fuzzy. My favorite characters (in order): Simmons, Fitz, Coulson, May, Ward, and Skye. I don't necessarily need a lot of back story to like a character. I just need the character to have his or her own goals and motivations and to be a whole person.
Pretty good episode tonight. Want to know more about what is going on with Coulson. Love how he always trusts May to watch his back, even over Ward now that she's back in the field. Looking forward to more.
Solid would be the word I use this describe this one. As was said before, there is a consistency building up now and, although I enjoyed the early episodes enough to keep me watching, the level of quality we are getting now has definitely been notched up.

Still, this one felt a little like a filler episode in many ways. May's backstory was reasonably interesting and I would like to see more. I've not been won over by the character yet and I still see her as an even blander Ward, but she at least has an explanation for being cold and detached now. I always enjoy a little bit of horror, so the main plot was fun. A tad predictable in places, such as the force not being telekinesis and that whatever it was causing the "accidents" did so out of protection, but I was interested enough for the hour.

All this show really needs now is for a reason for everyone to tune in every week. There are very few threads running through each episode, despite a few hooks that were set up early on. We know that Centipede will be a reoccurring antagonist and an old character is returning in the next episode, which is a step in the right direction, but they really need to have some ongoing story that will dominate and run throughout the back half of this season. I have always enjoyed TV shows that deliver episodes that have a beginning, middle and end, but there needs to be that continuous plot that dips in and out (e.g like Buffy did it.)
So few comments this week?
D-e-f-, Americans are a bit busy defending themselves from angry Native Americans at the moment, I guess.
Why do angry spirits trapped under construction sites always get freed at the end of November? So weird.
I enjoyed most of this - "Warm and Fuzzy" was excellent. But If you are going to have Brit characters, you need to get your script Brit-picked - "Freshman" really should have been "fresher" at the very least. That whole pranking dialogue just didn't ring true for me in those accents, even if S.H.I.E.L.D. Academy is in the USA.
People can change slang very quickly. They were training with Americans, the activity was referred to as 'freshman pranks', so they undoubtedly used the word 'freshman' when they were in the academy. Since it was in the context of what they'd done at the academy, it seems logical, even likely, that they'd use that word.

You'd be amazed at how quickly Americans living in Britain can start using the word 'flat' instead of 'apartment.'
Gill - I came back from my year in the States calling 'the post' 'the mail'. I agree: if Fitz and Simmons were going to the Academy, they'd call their first year there the 'Freshman Year' because that'd be what everyone around them was calling it.

Equally, if the tradition in their uni is that freshers get pranked, freshers will get pranked. I noticed that the pranks were pretty mild, though. A scary dummy and a tall story; nothing malicious, just a joke.

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