March 12 2004
Charsima Poses for Playboy.
Just a quick blurb I came across unexpectedly. Kinda cute though: The source says, "A photo assistant fell and Charisma got up mid-pose -- completely topless -- to help her up." Sorry, no pics. Scroll waaay down (I think it's the eleventh bit).
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cubiclesatan | March 12, 15:21 CET
Unfortunately, she then knocked her out with her left breast.
Firefly Flanatic | March 12, 15:25 CET
prufrock | March 12, 15:30 CET
marmoset | March 12, 15:37 CET
lisi | March 12, 15:51 CET
Chris in Virginia | March 12, 15:52 CET
I am not thrilled Charisma is doing it either. I think she has enough talent to stand on her own.
Tracy | March 12, 16:01 CET
lisi | March 12, 16:03 CET
As for CC, yes, it does smack of desperation. Also, if she wanted the Wonder Woman role so badly, I don't know how this would help. WW has always been a very PG kind of role, even in the comics, so a Playboy spread would certainly hurt her chances one would think.
punkinpuss | March 12, 16:04 CET
400lb_Gorilla | March 12, 16:13 CET
Nudity is the most bizarre of the puritanical mindsets that Americans cling desperatetly to. Nevermind the fact that the female form is beautiful or that there have been nude paintings and sculptures considered to be the very highest of high art on display for centuries.
ringworm | March 12, 16:18 CET
cubiclesatan - I believe she's in the May or June issue.
Invisible Green | March 12, 16:20 CET
prufrock | March 12, 16:20 CET
RootBoy42 | March 12, 16:24 CET
Well said.
The human body is a natural work of art; Charisma is proud of hers and wants to share it. If she gets a nice paycheck to boot, then good for her.
She's already done photo shoots that show good (quantitative and qualitative) portions of her bare skin; saying that showing just a bit more would make a moral difference strikes me as odd.
If a person is forced to do something against their will then I would call it degrading.
Just read this:
Nudity is the most bizarre of the puritanical mindsets that Americans cling desperatetly to. -- I second that!
[ edited by Ubqtous on 2004-03-12 23:38 ]
Ubqtous | March 12, 16:37 CET
lisi | March 12, 16:40 CET
lisi: People seem to be saying "nice rack" about her anyway when they should be commenting on her acting so she might as well.
[ edited by stakeholder on 2004-03-12 23:44 ]
marmoset | March 12, 16:41 CET
It's not the stigma, nor an act of desparation some of you believe. It's not like she's doing this with Penthouse or Hustler. This is Playboy. They're a premier magazine that's got plenty of respect in the entertainment industry.
That being said, Charisma's a beautiful woman, and I'm excited about this. Think of me what you will. I'm a fan of Charisma, nudity and the beauty of the female form. Sue me.
AlterLeo | March 12, 16:45 CET
Painting and photography are both forms of expression. Whether the result is art, pornography, etc is a completely subjective matter.
If paintings were more portable, I'm sure many sexually frustrated spouses would be carrying them into the bathroom!
And now, instead of people saying "gosh that Carisma Capenter is sure a good actress", they'll most likely say "nice rack".
So it's not possible to simultaneously admire talent and beauty? I think it is, and I also think that people will say "nice rack" and/or "good actress" regardless of Charisma's state of undress.
Ubqtous | March 12, 16:52 CET
Karen | March 12, 17:01 CET
/my opinion, for what it's worth.
RootBoy42 | March 12, 17:01 CET
Simon | March 12, 17:06 CET
In all seriousness, if Charisma feels confident and happy to pose for Playboy, who are we to condemn her? As many others have said, it's certainly not like she's posing for Hustler or any other number of truly distasteful publications. And women have been portrayed nude in works of art for millenia. It's not going to stop now.
IMO, I'd rather have Charisma pose in the nude than see her trussed up in any number of whorish outfits such as Maxim does. Those magazines bother me because it's like "let's see how close to nude we can get this person in the photo and still make it onto the Target or Walmart shelf!" Pffft!
[ edited by cubiclesatan on 2004-03-13 00:15 ]
cubiclesatan | March 12, 17:14 CET
As for SMG.....the thought of her naked makes me shiver, and not just cuz I'm a straight gal. Her in all her boney stickness.....ugh.....Eat something, girl!
Rogue Slayer | March 12, 17:20 CET
Rogue Slayer--Like your post, shudder at your choice of words: I'm interested to see the spread. I KNOW my hubby is. ;)
marmoset | March 12, 17:24 CET
As I say, to me, it simply seems a sad attempt to say "look at me!"...I'm happy to look at her already...I think she is an extremely fine actress...and I fear that some producers may determine that she's eye candy and nothing more...and that's sad...
Chris in Virginia | March 12, 17:26 CET
I think I am of Angel's mind on this one.
RootBoy42 | March 12, 17:29 CET
kdavid323 | March 12, 17:35 CET
Charisma, as I'm sure you knew I meant.
Invisible Green | March 12, 17:38 CET
RootBoy42 | March 12, 17:51 CET
Xkot | March 12, 17:51 CET
nightingale | March 12, 19:04 CET
As for pandering, or desperation, that's crap. Especially considering her own comments in other articles, it seems this is about empowerment for her. She had a kid, she got big, she's getting herself thin and in shape and she wants to prove it. That takes balls. And if it gets her a little extra publicity, that's great! At least she's someone who's gone somewhere with her career first, and is then posing, not like Pam Anderson or Jenny McCarthy who have based their careers on baring it all right out the gates.
jack knight | March 12, 21:15 CET
That takes balls?
?
marmoset | March 12, 21:49 CET
nightingale | March 12, 22:18 CET
[ edited by kaivaal on 2004-03-13 06:33 ]
[ edited by kaivaal on 2004-03-13 09:53 ]
kaivaal | March 12, 23:31 CET
There are times when I honestly believe I was meant to be born in another country, because I think this one is so messed up
AlterLeo | March 13, 01:47 CET
Unitas | March 13, 10:46 CET
But in response to punkinpuss who said, "Also, if she wanted the Wonder Woman role so badly, I don't know how this would help. WW has always been a very PG kind of role, even in the comics, so a Playboy spread would certainly hurt her chances one would think"... I disagree. WonderWoman originally was something of a bondage fetishists wet dream. Sex was ALWAYS wrapped up in her mystique, and if you do a little research you'll find that it's only been in recent years that her image has been "cleaned up" any. The old school WW was pretty risque. Hell, even the modern version isn't the kind of character whose image is going to be tarnished by a couple of nipple shots. It's not like she's Janet Jackson or anything.
*rolling eyes*
Haunt | March 13, 11:27 CET
Now as for Charisma, she isn't doing this on the superbowl stage. She's doing it where if you want to see it you can go out and buy it. She is a beautiful woman with a beautiful body and was unfairly ridiculed when she got pregnant and put on weight. I think this is her response to that, she's saying, see I am a beautiful woman still, even after giving birth. I don't know if it is a choice I would've made but it's her life and her decision. I also don't think anyone can truly judge yet without actually having seen the pictures.
I do agree, though, that Americans can be too prudish, not all of us but, unfortunately enough who know how to organize and make waves (Christian Coalition). I think the human body is a beautiful thing and as a woman I don't see anything wrong with tastefully done photos. I take more offense in overly violent things being shown without warning on the news or in commercials for upcoming shows when you're watching tv with little kids. It is amazing to me that people get offended by the naked body but think nothing of watching overtly violent stuff.
Firefly Flanatic | March 13, 12:05 CET
Unitas | March 13, 12:47 CET
400lb_Gorilla | March 13, 13:30 CET
marmoset | March 13, 13:43 CET
Child: "Mommy, what was Justin doing to Janet when her breast popped out?"
Mommy: "He was sexually assaulting her sweety, she was playing hard to get so he grabbed her and ripped off her top because he was gonna get her naked by the end of this song"
Child: "Mommy why are they grabbing their crotches"
Mommy: "Because they forgot to go pee pee before the show started."
Point is, it was the Superbowl, which is known as a "good,ole American family day of fun", a day you spend in front of the TV having friends and family over. I'm a fan of the team that won and it was great accomplishment for them winning two superbowls in three years and you know what everyone was talking about the next day? Janet's boob.
If that all had been shown on the MTV awards it wouldn't have been such a big deal because most likely you wouldn't be sitting down with Grandma and Grandpa and little Tommy.
It also brings back memories of little children all over America asking what a Lewenski was (in case you don't know what I'm talking about, it's what Monica did to Bill).
[ edited by blwessels on 2004-03-13 21:34 ]
Firefly Flanatic | March 13, 14:27 CET
Yes, unfortunately, there were lots of comments about how she looked while pregnant and after she had the baby. Someone even did an online skit recently making fun of all the stars of Buffy and Angel and one part of it was Charisma in the audience scarfing down food. There was also a lot of speculation that she got "fired" because she put on weight during the pregnancy. I don't believe that but just the fact that people were commenting on how much weight she had gained during her pregnancy was uncalled for. Women gain weight when they are pregnant and if you don't you are most likely not eating healthy like you are supposed to be doing.
So, there was quite a bit of publicity surrounding her pregnancy weight gain and this could be her way of saying to the world, "look at me now" and maybe it will drum up acting jobs for her, who knows.
Firefly Flanatic | March 13, 14:33 CET
"A photo assistant fell and Charisma got up mid-pose -- completely topless -- to help her up" is a clear example of the crap they give us. They try to make this sound innocent, but we all know it exists to perk up men’s imaginations. While I have always been a lady watcher, I am not comfortable with thinking of Charisma that way. The same goes for Julie Benz and Amy Acker; I want to admire them as actresses. It’s amazing these people think we’re all that narrow-minded.
While I don’t want to post a link here, websites with nude photos that are used as an art form do exist. I just did a search and found some myself. About a year ago, I also flipped through a magazine with such pictures. The models who pose for those pictures contribute to real works of art portraying the beauty of the human body. There is no shame in what they’re doing. No, if I had kids, I would not want them seeing these. For adults, however, they’re worth seeing, and I don’t feel trashy for admiring them.
G Thing | March 13, 14:48 CET
Unitas | March 13, 20:13 CET
In terms of Charisma, I honestly thought before I found out she was pregnant in early Season 4, that they were dressing her to make her seem more busty. That I thought was a little lowbrow, a la FOX. But I never thought she looked fat over the course of it
jack knight | March 14, 06:22 CET
bingo! give this person a prize!
where are the respected male actors posing nude, huh...? not in playgirl, not anywhere. not since burt reynolds posed in playgirl way back in the 70's at any rate. there are several double standards at work which find a 30 something actress posing for playboy. all of which exhaust me to think of, so i'm going to abandon this comment now outside of saying i feel sorry for charisma but also wish her the best of luck. i want to see her on my tv, soon and often.
t r a c y | March 15, 01:59 CET