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March 20 2014

Grimm renewed for 4th Season. According to Deadline Hollywood, Buffy exec. producer and Angel co-creator David Greenwalt's latest show Grimm has been picked up by NBC for a fourth season.

Yay! Love Grimm. Hope to see more Whedony people on it (Alexis Denisof is currently there).
Yay! I love Grimm!

(Seriously, that was my first thought before I say Shapenew's comment).
Yay! I love Grimm!

Joining the party. I was kind of on the fence with this show in the early days, but it has improved tremendously and is now my favorite network show (with Castle a close second.)
it has improved tremendously


It did, huh?

Perhaps you yaysayers could convince me to get back on board. Me & my wife watched about half of the first series, up until the episode with Amy Acker, then lost interest for several reasons.

Our biggest problem was that the general mythos of the show didn't seem to be very thoroughly plotted or developed. Where did all the 'creatures' suddenly come from? Why all the fake German words and names? Why are all of Grimm's police cases from one day to the next all related to creatures? Doesn't he ever get normal cases anymore, and what if he does - does creature-related work make it impossible for him to do his job when it's not creature-related? How come Grimm suddenly encounters at least one creature every episode, how many are there in the world anyway, and why are there so many in Grimm's town? How come all creatures seem to be fully aware of their and each others lore? Some creatures seem to blow their cover with whatever it is they do that sets Grimm on their tail - isn't this a problem anywhere outside of Grimm's city?

And why are all creatures so very wary or afraid of Grimm, when he doesn't seem to have any special powers that would make him a threat? The only thing about him is that he can see creatures and that he has some books on them, right? Is it only that his lineage has a master hunter reputation and that he possesses vital information? What sets him apart from just any other creature, who also all can see each other and seem to know all about each other's habits and weaknesses?

One additional problem with this is that Grimm himself never seems to be bothered with the bigger picture. He's reading about various creatures but never seems to wonder about sources, structures or anything beyond basic lore.

And speaking of Grimm himself and his lack of asking questions, he never seemed to be very intelligent, enthousiastic, nor was he ever very friendly, humorous or anything like that in those earlier episodes. There wasn't much about him at all - history, character traits, anything.
Our main reason for watching as long as we did was really the highly likable Monroe. But it never got clear to us why Monroe stayed friends with Grimm. Grimm only ever came to him for information, never showed the slightest interest in Monroe as a person, never displayed a bit of affection.

The 'secret identity' thing towards Grimm's girlfriend and police partner also seemed somewhat unnecessary and cliché.

The majority of those episodes were really 'monster of the week' in a very standard police detective series with only the fact that the criminals were 'creatures' making it different from other series - a feature that kept losing it's impact due to a severe lack of mythos.

So... if those were my perceptions halfway through the first series, was I right to think that the show wasn't really for me? Or did things change so much that I'd be positively surprised?
Season four: how about more Grimms showing up? Nick and his mom can't be the only ones. Some would be fundamentalists who think a good Wesen doesn't exist, others are pro-Wesen (and let's have a Wesen Grimm and blow everyone's mind).
And if the endgame is the search for a mysterious item that the Royals want to rule the world, and Nick is the final obstacle (and that means Renard will do something unfortunate that he will wind up regretting), let's have progress towards that.
I'm satisfied with S1-3 enough to have no particular wishlist for the future. Also, Portland.
Valentijin, I can't say what would work for you, but I do think most of your concerns have been addressed. Won't give a bunch of examples because I'm a spoiler-phobe, but I will say that the actor who plays Nick has come a long way and that the show is much more mythos-heavy (and in a good way) than it was in the first season. I'm pretty sure the Wesen names come from German. Yay for the renewal!
The Wesen names are based on German, but are not really accurate German. It's as if German and Wesen split off from the same root language a thousand years ago or something.

Over time they have addressed the mythology of the show better than they did in the first season. Also, character development has come a long, long way not just for Nick, but for the supporting characters as well. In the beginning it seemed like Silas Weir Mitchell's Monroe character was the only interesting one on the show, but that's no longer the case. Hank, Rosalee, Capt. Renard, Sgt. Wu, and even Juliette (who I had a lot of trouble warming to) are now all solid characters in their own right.
Valentijn some of your concerns about the show are still valid and some have been addressed by the writers.

I believe the names are in bastardized German because the brothers Grimm are German folklorists.

Nick has developed some superpowers after fighting a couple of Wesen, super hearing after being blinded and eventually heightened abilities after having been attacked by Baron Samdi which have not visually enhanced the show but the writers have shown a bit more as to why he can fight Wesen.

We don't know why so many Wesen are drawn to Portland but it does seem that Wesen are just global. The plotline connecting Portland to Europe to Portland has been beefed up.

The creatures seem to know each others lore because they belong to a single Wesen community which is governed by a Wesen council which steps in to make sure that the Wesen community stays hidden.

All of the main characters are now acquainted with Wesen. Hank and Juliete have joined the "scoobies" and Sgt. Wu recently had an interaction with Wesen so all are some what initiated.

So we now have the personal world where Monroe and Rosalee (a fuchsbau a fox like Wesen) are a great couple with chemistry. Rosalee runs the potion shop and they live together. Because they are different Wesen it caused friction amongst their families. Rosalee also has a sketchy past. We get a little bit of Wesen culture here plus with Gus Nick's neighbor.

The writers have openly dealt with Monroe always being at Nick's beck and call and we have now seen the group having dinner together and sharing conversation about relationships.

There is the police procedural world where the Wesen are investigated.

Then their is the global power struggle with Renard, the royals and a hexenbeist royal baby.

So the show has multiple layers now and has strengthened some mythology and relationships among the characters.

I now look forward to Grimm as opposed to just seeing it as a simple procedural with monsters now.
ActualSize, AndrewCrossett & Tausif - thank you all for pitching in! It really does sound like they gave the show a lot more content and all in a good way.

I did always like the atmosphere and the general premise and Monroe was a really cool character (and actor). But after a number of monster-of-the-week episodes, I got the impression that there wasn't much vision beyond what they were doing. Great to hear that those impressions were wrong and a little more patience should be very rewarding - I'll see about catching up!
Valentjin, the storylines are now all interwoven to some extent. Even in monster-of-the-week episodes, there are ways in which the rest of the characters are affected and there's a major continuing B story. At this point, not all the creature names are German - pretty sure the Aswang, name and all, is from Filipino mythology (and no English speakers, which the writers are, would dare concoct something called essentially an Ass-wang :) ).
Yay! I quite like Grimm. It took the usual handful of beginning episodes to get solid, like many shows, but it appealed to me from the outset, and it's only gotten better.

Part of the appeal is its actors & character development, part its gorgeous Portlandishness, and part its rich mythology & totally happening props/sets/graphic art.

I extra super-love Rosalee's Exotic Spice & Tea Shop, and the fact that they actually made-over an actual Portland Shop to create it is just the coolest cake-icing. I love it *almost* as much as the Magic Box.
I'm getting more and more intrigued and keen on getting back on board by all your comments.

Funnily enough, I've been loving Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. from the start & especially started feeling the buildup's pay-off around episode 11, while many criticised AoS for similar reasons that made me originally abandon Grimm after 11 episodes (slow buildup/not getting into bigger questions, lack of character depth). Sometimes it really takes half a season to get the setting and atmosphere in place before a show can start unleashing its full potential.

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