April 22 2014
(SPOILER)
Discuss this week's episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..
The episode is "The Only Light in the Darkness," written by Monica Owusu-Breen. Amy Acker guest stars as the cellist from Portland.
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roddikinathome | April 22, 15:10 CET
Ship | April 22, 15:32 CET
Squishy | April 22, 15:47 CET
andOtherDreams | April 22, 15:50 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 15:51 CET
Trentaferd | April 22, 15:54 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 16:00 CET
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:01 CET
Grack21 | April 22, 16:01 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 16:02 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 16:03 CET
What did the band on his wrist say? Missed it.
hann23 | April 22, 16:03 CET
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:03 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 16:04 CET
Grack21
B_b DAMMIT! Sportsball!
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:05 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 16:06 CET
Grack21 | April 22, 16:06 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 16:07 CET
Orientation Dollhouse style.
hann23 | April 22, 16:07 CET
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Nebula1400
You better make some noise. You make these a hoot!
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:12 CET
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blackflamerose | April 22, 16:23 CET
blackflamerose
Yeah, but creeeeeEEEEEeeepy.
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:24 CET
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blackflamerose | April 22, 16:32 CET
[ edited by Nebula1400 on 2014-04-23 01:33 ]
Nebula1400 | April 22, 16:32 CET
blackflamerose
I see Ward dropping a few bodies first.
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:32 CET
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PaperSpock | April 22, 16:33 CET
hann23 | April 22, 16:34 CET
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blackflamerose | April 22, 16:35 CET
Nebula1400
I called knife twist last week, and I'm sticking with that.
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:36 CET
hann23 | April 22, 16:36 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 16:36 CET
[Edited after the show to say: well, I really only got 1, but Adrian Pasdar did go poof, so 1.5?]
[ edited by javelina on 2014-04-23 02:43 ]
javelina | April 22, 16:37 CET
Sunfire | April 22, 16:38 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 16:39 CET
Sunfire
Tension is killing meeeee.
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:41 CET
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baxter
Survival mode, dood.
roddikinathome | April 22, 16:58 CET
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blackflamerose | April 22, 17:00 CET
Sunfire | April 22, 17:01 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 17:01 CET
hann23 | April 22, 17:02 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 17:04 CET
And I love Mama-May!
baxter | April 22, 17:04 CET
[ edited by Buffyfantic on 2014-04-23 02:07 ]
Buffyfantic | April 22, 17:06 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 17:06 CET
Stupendous | April 22, 17:07 CET
javelina
And that be a nooooo.
\And my teeth itch.
roddikinathome | April 22, 17:07 CET
Looks like Skye is better at this secret agent thing than Ward was expecting.
"What's in the box?" "Simmons." Awwwww.
I'm gonna predict that Ward dies in the season finale, and Triplett replaces him as a regular next season.
I noticed something when they replayed the scene where Ward shoots the SHIELD agents and Hand on the plane. He didn't go for a head shot with her, like he did the other two agents. Looks like he shot her in the shoulder, actually. I wonder if she's alive and being held prisoner by Garrett?
AndrewCrossett | April 22, 17:09 CET
hann23 | April 22, 17:11 CET
[ edited by Nebula1400 on 2014-04-23 02:12 ]
Nebula1400 | April 22, 17:11 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 17:12 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 17:12 CET
baxter
Hence the "Remember your training Skye" comment. ;) She's all grown up.
roddikinathome | April 22, 17:12 CET
I really do hope Koenig and Hand are okay. They're prickly but fun.
I think perhaps a flashback maybe of Audrey and Coulson would have helped their plot.
[ edited by hann23 on 2014-04-23 02:15 ]
hann23 | April 22, 17:13 CET
As much as I wish it could be, when I rewatched I noticed he shot her two more times after she fell. I was too stunned to really pick up on it the first time, but yeah, she's gone.
Sunfire | April 22, 17:14 CET
andOtherDreams | April 22, 17:18 CET
hann23
Sorry mang, they're dead. And I'll miss them, too.
roddikinathome | April 22, 17:19 CET
QingTing | April 22, 17:20 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 17:25 CET
As for Skye and Ward, aaagghhh.
Loved the May/Mom coda.
javelina | April 22, 17:26 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 17:28 CET
"aaagghhh."
javelina
You too, huh?
roddikinathome | April 22, 17:30 CET
Same here.
Sweet Coulson-Audrey scene. Smart Skye. Poor Koenig. Great May and Mom scene.
palehorse | April 22, 17:37 CET
Nebula1400 | April 22, 17:38 CET
And Damn, Koenig should have trusted his instincts but there was a reason why Fury put him there, away from all the action. Poor guy.
And I'm hoping that May got quite a few rides because that is weeks of walking otherwise. What do you suppose was her mother's job? And where? In Canada? the U.S.? Elsewhere?
Lioness | April 22, 17:39 CET
Sunfire | April 22, 17:44 CET
I keep seeing Bill Paxton credited as a cast member in this episode but he was only in the flashbacks, wasn't he?
AndrewCrossett | April 22, 17:48 CET
javelina | April 22, 17:50 CET
Also:
Chair of Truth was nicely done!
Poor Fitz - He was given his opening
I like MayMom
Didn't note the director - but very "movie" feel tonight
Any Ward-is-a-Triple-Agent holdouts left?
Three episodes left - hopefully they have a couple more surprises left in the bag o' tricks
TallMichaelJ | April 22, 17:53 CET
Besides, that would be taking the twist-a-roonie thing a little bit too far. It would be like a Scooby-Doo episode... "It's not really Ward at all! It's old Mr. Johnson, the amusement park caretaker, wearing a Ward mask!"
AndrewCrossett | April 22, 17:59 CET
I also really really hope that Hand and Koenig stay dead. Should either of them come back it cheapens the pure evil of the acts (IMO) One of the reasons I stopped reading comics back in the day was I became aware of Stan Lee's edict on the "illusion of change" Keep the readers on their toes with cliffhangers and deaths and reveals ... but always return to status quo eventually. I've begun reading comics again and while I enjoy them, I'm not sure they've ever quite figured out a work around for that issue - I'd hate for it to bleed into the series
TallMichaelJ | April 22, 18:09 CET
mike13 | April 22, 18:14 CET
Yurchel | April 22, 18:14 CET
AndrewCrossett | April 22, 18:19 CET
blackflamerose | April 22, 18:26 CET
PaperSpock | April 22, 18:28 CET
barboo | April 22, 18:32 CET
I was thinking how cool it would be to have Koenig be the unkillable SHIELD agent... the mild-mannered guy who just keeps coming back no matter how many times they try to kill him. It would be a cool running gag and Patton Oswalt would be the perfect guy for it.
AndrewCrossett | April 22, 18:34 CET
javelina | April 22, 18:35 CET
As a side note my love keeps cracking jokes about how OBVIOUSLY ward is evil "he threw away a man's sandwich".
witch_kat | April 22, 18:55 CET
Bunnies | April 22, 19:24 CET
AndrewCrossett | April 22, 19:35 CET
It's easy to recruit people who are ignorant to history, or who have been raised to believe things that go against their own best interest.
Nebula1400 | April 22, 19:43 CET
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poots
Of course! ;)
[ edited by Barry Woodward on 2014-04-23 05:00 ]
Barry Woodward | April 22, 19:54 CET
I doubt we've seen the last of Amy Acker. RIP Patton Oswald, though.
RoguePirateBunny | April 22, 20:06 CET
I was much more interested in the May/Coulson, Fitz/Simmons/Triplett, and Skye/Ward storyline compared to the Coulson/Audrey one. I really want Coulson to forgive May, and every episode I like May's character more and more if that is even possible. I've always loved the Fitz/Simmons dynamic. Agent Triplett has earned my trust, and I would love to see him on the team. And I want Skye to kick Ward's ass or aid in his downfall. Can't wait for the next week's ep with Maria Hill!
hpgwbtvs | April 22, 20:22 CET
@theonetruebix | April 22, 20:52 CET
What really stood out for me was the method by which Ward defeated Fury's super duper lie detector: old-school pain inducement via what seemed like a bent paperclip or bobby pin shoved into the nail bed of one of his fingers! All that whizz-bang tech and Ward fools it with one of the oldest tricks in the book :D
BlueEyedBrigadier | April 22, 20:58 CET
Beth | April 22, 21:49 CET
Ward should be hanged with that lanyard.
Trentaferd | April 22, 22:08 CET
@theonetruebix | April 22, 22:43 CET
gossi | April 23, 00:03 CET
libradude | April 23, 00:14 CET
barzai | April 23, 00:26 CET
I'm not sure what they are doing with Ward, but they may as well have him grow out his moustache so he at least has something to twirl.
Kaan | April 23, 00:33 CET
Kaan - While I agree the Audrey plot was a bit.. disappointing I understand that there was so much going on in the episode they couldn't base the whole episode around it so I'm ok with it particularly given I'm sure that's not going to be the end of her story, just the introduction!
Beth | April 23, 01:06 CET
I think it's a fair point about the gamma radiation from the lights being very um, underdeveloped in the story. I did assume that in the Marvel Universe it was an accepted fact that stage lights could be modified rather quickly to emit super light. I didn't dwell too long because the Skye plot was so good. I guess the fiction worked for me.
hann23 | April 23, 03:29 CET
And gamma rays - does that mean he'll be Blackout Hulk now?
redeem147 | April 23, 03:58 CET
[ edited by Beth on 2014-04-23 13:07 ]
Beth | April 23, 03:58 CET
- Paperspock
That would be awesome. It'd remind me of Weyoun from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
swanjun | April 23, 05:00 CET
Nebula1400 | April 23, 05:35 CET
hpgwbtvs | April 23, 06:04 CET
From Newsarama:
It's all connected.
Simon | April 23, 06:32 CET
They shouldn't even explain it the first time he comes back. Just have everyone keep asking him how him came back to life, but all he'll say is that it's classified. Then right before he decides to tell them, he's killed again.
Save the reveal for the third appearance.
Jason_M_Bryant | April 23, 06:51 CET
"Oh My God! They killed Koenig! You bastards!"
JMaloney | April 23, 08:43 CET
Of all the characters on AoS who have been given from-the-comics names, Koenig is probably the one least like the original.
In the original comics, Koenig died in battle with Hydra alongside fellow Howling Commando Gabe Jones... who might very well have been Triplett's grandfather.
AndrewCrossett | April 23, 09:02 CET
andOtherDreams | April 23, 09:32 CET
More important quibble, when Coulson is wrestling with whether or not to tell Audrey he's alive, why doesn't he once consider the most obvious reason not to do so: It's freakin' highly classified! And unintended disclosure could lead to all kinds of problems with the Avengers team members, etc.
[ edited by Squishy on 2014-04-23 19:11 ]
Squishy | April 23, 10:07 CET
As for the highly classified, all S.H.I.E.L.D.'s files have been dumped on the internet, I don't think much of anything's classified any more!
[ edited by Beth on 2014-04-23 19:13 ]
Beth | April 23, 10:13 CET
Squishy | April 23, 10:39 CET
Sunfire | April 23, 10:47 CET
[ edited by Squishy on 2014-04-23 20:08 ]
Squishy | April 23, 11:07 CET
[ edited by Barry Woodward on 2014-04-23 20:40 ]
Barry Woodward | April 23, 11:39 CET
Squishy | April 23, 11:51 CET
[ edited by Squishy on 2014-04-23 21:05 ]
Squishy | April 23, 11:53 CET
Sunfire | April 23, 12:32 CET
Other than that, I loved this episode, there was a lot of suspense and I found myself, for the first time, really, really rooting for Skye. She is a smartie.
I'm sad Ward is so evil though :(
Illy | April 23, 12:49 CET
Alexander Pierce actually thinks he's the good guy.
"Nick, our enemies are your enemies.
I can safeguard the lives of seven billion people.
by sacrificing twenty million."
John Garrett is a narcissistic survivor, with no moral compass.
"I saw which way the wind was shifting . . . ,
and I adjusted my sail."
Grant Ward is doing it because of his
personal connection to Garrett.
"I owe Garrett everything."
And most of the nameless faceless followers
are just that, nameless faceless followers.
Toady: "HAIL HYDRA!"
Garrett: "Put your arms down. You look like a West Texas cheerleader."
There are a lot of different, crooked paths to evil.
Hydra seems to have a lot of them covered.
(Thanks @javelina, I couldn't remember and couldn't find the clip to verify, now I recline corrected.)
[ edited by RobynH on 2014-04-24 07:03 ]
RobynH | April 23, 13:36 CET
I believe the yellow indicates an unclear answer and red indicates a lie, which is why Koeing asks the follow-up questions. Ward was really smart with the way he worded the answers, so they weren't technically lies. I'm with you though, having the machine indicate a lie after Ward said, "I'm loyal to my team and Coulson" should've been a huge red flag. I'm assuming Koeing is a romantic, and is taking it as 'shield collapsed, and he is here because he loves Skye.'
On ABC.com they have this specific clip called, "Grant Ward Faces the Ultimate Lie Detector" if you want to re-watch the scene.
[ edited by hpgwbtvs on 2014-04-23 23:33 ]
hpgwbtvs | April 23, 14:25 CET
Hopefully, all the bashing this show got early on from bandwagon haters has subsided. Recent episodes have made this show as much of a must see show for me now as Arrow
Angel&Faith | April 23, 15:40 CET
All the relationships of the group are part of the discussion, rotating amongst them all. And at one point I felt a sense of horror during Skye's reaction to Grant's 'real me'. It also played as a metaphor for opening up to another human being. Really relatable stuff.
The teaser in the beginning was really cool too, the way they handled that scene. I loved the villain and his ability. But the mid-credits scene hinted at a character I don't really care for. So there's that. But overall an awesome episode.
Out. For. A. Walk. Bitch. | April 23, 17:06 CET
My favorite line of the year, I think. Certainly way up there.
javelina | April 23, 17:49 CET
So: she left a note, destroyed the hard drive. Or that's my theory, anyway.
RoguePirateBunny | April 23, 20:45 CET
Nebula1400 | April 23, 20:59 CET
jclemens | April 23, 21:27 CET
One thing that struck me really funny was Ward's confessional speech. The first time he gave Skye the line about him & his brother (early in the show), I was cringing at the awkward hokeyness of it. SO much better hearing that stuff from Evil Ward.
And I love the Patton Oswalt, LMD idea. I don't want that character to be gone.
jcs | April 23, 23:01 CET
Simon | April 23, 23:37 CET
That would have been a jaw-dropping, "OMG, did they really just do that?" type moment for me.
[ edited by Penthos on 2014-04-24 20:53 ]
Penthos | April 24, 04:47 CET
It's interesting how Ward always discouraged Skye from going in over her head, alone into danger -- and now that Danger is him as they head to South America.
Ronald_SF | April 24, 14:02 CET
Ronald_SF | April 24, 14:05 CET
Btw, I was all ready to have an entire episode dedicated to Sky and Ward playing cat and mouse next week in that bunker. Could've done some Buffy-esque genre spin on horror tropes. "The call is coming from inside the bunker!"
D-e-f- | April 24, 16:22 CET
lostinthis | April 24, 23:41 CET
LOUiE | April 25, 00:16 CET
D-e-f- | April 25, 04:39 CET
Random thought: After seeing Amy, I wish Jed and Maurissa would reach into the Spartacus cast. Dustin Clare or John Hannah on the show would be freaking awesome.
BringItOn5x5 | April 25, 04:54 CET
I miss the Spartacus language so much.
D-e-f- | April 25, 10:35 CET
I miss that show. And I'm seriously bummed that DeKnight's Incursion project seems to be going nowhere fast. It sounded like a great concept.
BringItOn5x5 | April 25, 16:22 CET
[ edited by Angel&Faith on 2014-04-26 18:26 ]
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QingTing | April 26, 15:32 CET