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September 28 2014

Avengers 3 as a two-part movie? Dark Horizons picks up a rumour from a fansite.

The theory is that the movie could be split in two parts coming out in 2018 and 2019.

"...such as "Twilight," "Harry Potter," "The Hunger Games" and "Divergent". Those that have been released so far have proven to be major money makers." Those have also been book series. Are we actually talking about splitting one overarching story across two feature films? If not, that's going to be Avengers 3 and Avengers 4.

As far as the money making factor is concerned, well, color me stunned.
I'd understand movies shot back to back, like LotR movies but splitting one single movie in two? How does that work in MCU? It would just be Avengers 3 and 4, wouldn't it? Even though it might be called somethingsomething Part 1 and Part 2. MCU films are all continuing storylines anyway.
If true, that may impact Joss's willingness to be involved in the same capacity. He has offered strong criticism in the past for movies that do not tell a complete story in and of themselves.
This is going to be one of those stories that comes from an obscure site, ends up being cited as fact by a slightly obscure site that lacks journalistic skills and then gets stated as a fact on mainstream pop-culture sites by Monday morning.
Yeah, I immediately thought this couldn't be true if Joss was involved because of his insistence on not splitting up stories.

It seems really weird that they're comparing this to Harry Potter and The Hunger Games, because those are pre-existing stories split into different parts. Why would someone purposefully write one story that didn't fit into one film? Or, like WhatsAStevedore said, why pretend it's any different from two separate sequels?
Avengers 3 part 1 - Written and directed by Joss Whedon and focuses on an superhero civil war that is being manipulated by Loki and Thanos. The Guardians appear towards the end after detecting Thanos' involvement on Earth.

Avengers 3 part 2 - Written and directed by James Gunn and is a space tale where The Avengers are taken to the other side of the galaxy by the Guardians in a last ditch attempt to stop Thanos using the Infinity Gauntlet.
It's not completely unheard of. Kill Bill was an original story made to be a movie and split in two.

I doubt it's happening here, though.
Their reference to young adult book movies is in regards to the last book being split into 2 movies. Breaking Dawn 1 and 2, Deathly Hallows 1 and 2, Mockingjay 1 and 2. Divergent has only had the first movie come out, but maybe the plan is already in place to split the last book into 2 movies.
A) This is a terrible idea and B) I doubt it's true because Joss would never support this idea and you have to believe that even if he doesn't write/direct it, he's been involved in breaking the story elements.

[ edited by SuperScuba on 2014-09-28 15:34 ]
Perhaps it could be a two-parter in the sense of The Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions or Pirates of the Caribbean 2 and 3. Distinct movies telling a larger tale.
In addition to the problem that Joss would probably object, it just doesn't make sense for Marvel. They make two movies a year, and they're sneaking in a third movie for a couple of upcoming years just because they have so many franchises already. Breaking Avengers 3 into two parts only works if they are, at most, one year apart. With so many other movies that they want to do, it wouldn't make sense to push other franchises back to do a clear cash grab with Avengers. It's completely against the franchise building formula that has served them well so far.
I think they should just do one giant six-hour movie. Kinda like the Wagnerian ring cycle of superhero movies. 😜
Simon, if those were the plots of Avengers 3 Part 1 and 2, I would be over the moon. That sounds perfect.
Hmm, I'd bet that maybe they've got the wrong end of the stick on this one. I think what's probably been discussed is doing the story from two different sides. i.e. An Avengers Infinity Gauntlet movie guest starring Guardians, and a Guardians movie guest starring the Avengers where you see it from their character's perspective. I think something like that is possible, and would be pretty unique..
I've long guessed this would happen based on the proposed "Untitled" release dates
I don't think this rumor (if it's even true) will effect Joss at all. I remember him hinting in an Entertainment Weekly interview that after he finished Age of Ultron has was going be a staff writer on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (like he was on Angel) and focus on making smaller "original" projects on the side. He kept emphasizing that he felt there was a need for "original" genre projects.

I wouldn't mind Kevin Feige having Joss develop a story for Avengers 3 with either Drew Goddard, Tim Minear, Ben Edlund or David Fury and have them write and direct without Joss. It would be a nice opportunity for whoever did it, while Marvel Studios could market it as "Joss Whedon presents Avengers: Insert-Subtitle-Here". That way Joss could focus on whatever projects he wanted and Feige could still market it as "from the guy who brought you Age of Ultron".

[ edited by JesusSavedIn01 on 2014-09-29 10:28 ]
Makes no sense.

The two-parter is just a way to milk book series. Marvel can just make more Avengers movies.
I always thought/wanted the story would be a two parter echoing Avengers annual 7 & The Thing & Spiderman 2in1. Avengers go up against Thanos and are defeated & imprisoned. In part 2 The Guardians of the Galaxy rescue the Avengers & together defeat Thanos.
I just don't see any kind of Infinity Gauntlet take actually working in a 2 hour live action film.

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