October 29 2014
Ratings for Agents of SHIELD Season 2 Episode 6.
Lookin' good.
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libradude | October 29, 09:34 CET
The one place I don't want it to move is Sunday at 9 PM. Sports overrun would be bad enough but come October it would be creamed by The Walking Dead. Both are genre shows based on comics that are popular with males. WD is regularly creating and breaking ratings records. SHIELD has a slight problem overlapping with Supernatural. Overlapping with WD would probably be a tailspin.
Dusk | October 29, 09:36 CET
Scraggles | October 29, 09:55 CET
It's probably being pre-empted for election coverage next week, but still, every missed week hurts.
AndrewCrossett | October 29, 10:03 CET
libradude | October 29, 10:18 CET
gossi | October 29, 10:51 CET
Also, if you don't watch something within 7 days of it being aired, it doesn't count toward the ratings.
Penthos | October 29, 11:02 CET
[ edited by AndrewCrossett on 2014-10-29 19:32 ]
AndrewCrossett | October 29, 11:32 CET
gossi | October 29, 11:44 CET
There are tons and tons and tons of commercials. And then when the commercials are over, they throw a huge banner ad across the bottom third of the screen so you can watch more commercials right while the show is running.
Watching TV didn't used to be so aggravating.
AndrewCrossett | October 29, 11:49 CET
gossi | October 29, 12:32 CET
Around the same time they start inserting commercial intermissions into theatrical movies.
AndrewCrossett | October 29, 12:40 CET
Also, to beat my dead soapbox horse, none of this actually important information will ever be public. So we will never know what is really going on and what is really being counted/paid for. The data in the link for this thread is a tiny tiny immaterial misleading indicator of the financial health of the show.
But by all means, carry on.
IrrationaliTV | October 29, 12:48 CET
Though I do fall to the same picnic as everyone else when my own show is on the line and I'm hoping it gets renewed so that I, and many others I love to work with, get more work. There's some psychological comfort to be had in checking the weekly numbers, as if you've done all you could to help by taking a look.
As you say, carry on. :)
bobw1o | October 29, 14:10 CET
PaperSpock | October 29, 14:12 CET
I totally understand the need as a fan to obsess over the ratings of a show. Hell, that's the reason I got into this business in the first place. :)
IrrationaliTV | October 29, 14:39 CET
PaperSpock | October 29, 15:30 CET
numbers were important but that's not been the case since the end of the purge in 1972. Since then its the demo that counts and only
the demo that matters. If you aren't in it you are SOL.
JDL | October 29, 15:54 CET
libradude | October 29, 16:25 CET
IrrationaliTV | October 29, 17:25 CET
hann23 | October 29, 17:29 CET
One of my other shows is def aimed at the demo, but this year it exploded in viewership because of the success of one woman that attracted a ton of female (and male) viewership.
As an 18-49 year old male though, I just want my fast cars, hot chicks, and 'splosions. Yay AoS!!! ;)
bobw1o | October 29, 18:57 CET
the network had to consider the other show in that hour time slot, plus comedies are an especially hard get anymore, and
2) it was in its 3rd year when the rumbling became pronounced. Neither applies well to AoS's situation.
[ edited by JDL on 2014-10-30 03:11 ]
JDL | October 29, 19:09 CET
NYPinTA | October 29, 19:46 CET
libradude | October 29, 19:53 CET
And really, is the ratings system really an accurate measure of how people watch who are not slaves to the Nielsen box?
And when the scrolling ads at the bottom and commercials during movies in theaters happen, I plan to watch shadow puppets, and put on circuses in my backyard.
Nebula1400 | October 29, 20:26 CET
In a word yes, its accurate within the margin of error. They test separately for just the sort of thing that you are talking about
here. Statisticians are paranoid about this sort of risk.
JDL | October 29, 20:47 CET
jcs | October 29, 21:12 CET
And how many of those people walk out of the room to pee or get something to drink, or feed the dog, or whatever, while the commercials are on? Are Nielsen families not allowed to pee?
I still want to know if they can mute the commercials.
Nebula1400 | October 29, 22:00 CET
That does happen, especially if you maybe misplaced the remote and don't want to get up and go all the way to the TV or spend the time looking for the remote. There was one time I was sick, in bed, with the flu, my wife was at work and I had no I idea where the remote was. There was no way I was going to get out of bed to go push that goddamned button.
Sometimes you just tune it out and don't even realize the lights are blinking. Other times, it's just HIGHLY annoying and seems like you are constantly having to push those buttons. The 40 minutes just seems to fly by and your like "again, already?". ESPECIALLY if you are really engrossed in a good show or movie then the lights start blinking. It just takes you out of the moment and can be really irritating.
However, in all fairness, that was not the norm. In fact, after a while, pushing the button became almost a pavlovian response where we would see the lights flash and automatically reach for the Neilsen remote reflexively.
Furthermore, if you let it flash too much, they will actually call you and ask you what the problem is. Conversely, if you don't use your TV for an extended period of time (several days) they will also call you to see what's up. In fact, if you go on vacation, you are supposed to let them know before hand so that they can expect not to receive data.
Then of course there is the testing. Probably twice a year they come in and test each device that has a Nielsen box on it to make sure they are receiving the right signals, and that process can take hours.
As for muting the commercials, you can do whatever you want. They tell you they merely want to observe your viewing habits without interfering with them. If muting or fast forwarding commercials is what you normally do, that's what they want to know.
All in all, I do believe it is a pretty accurate, if not antiquated, way to determine what is being watched and when. Additionally, everyone involved in the process was very professional and extremely courteous, which is always a plus.
[ edited by Penthos on 2014-10-30 15:13 ]
Penthos | October 30, 07:08 CET
IrrationaliTV | October 30, 09:46 CET
I'm guessing there is no box I could have checked to say that I watch "AoS" on Amazon Instant Video?
RobynH | October 30, 16:36 CET
Rachelkachel | October 30, 17:07 CET