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April 27 2015

Writer for Salon asks if the superhero movie has reached "a decadent plateau, a long-term steady state of self-nourishing bigness and reverberant meaninglessness."

[ edited by Waikowhai on 2015-04-29 19:30 ]

[ edited by Waikowhai on 2015-04-29 19:31 ]

Ah, another reviewer that says "fun" dismissively, as if it's easy to write something fun.

[I just looked at the title--not reading cos I haven't seen the movie yet. But seriously, guys. "Fun" is very hard to do.]
superhero cinema is very much like chocolate then I guess
This particular author pretty much always strikes me as a contrarian poseur Not a big fan of this author's work; no real reason to change that opinion in the instant case. His last trick was getting wound up (in rather bombastic terms) over Russell Crowe's new movie about the aftermath of the Gallipoli Campaign not paying due heed to the Armenian genocide (which was contemporaneous but otherwise scarcely related to Crowe's subject).

Not every artwork or entertainment can serve every (or indeed any) agenda. Sometimes you just want to watch Robot James Spader blow stuff up.

[ edited by LeafOnTheWind on 2015-04-28 13:51 ]
Sadly, this piece is spot on.
This particular author pretty much always strikes me as a contrarian poseur

We prefer to play the ball here rather than the man.
I for one am finding superhero movies boring and interchangeable these days, and I used to get excited about them up until just a couple of years ago. The Avengers was no exception to me (I have not seen ...Ultron). I think I would need to hear about one with a rather unusual angle on the genre to get interested again. Which, given the number of new superhero films being developed, may actually happen. (This is just my taste; if others enjoy the stories I'm not interested in, then good for them.) Has anybody heard of any upcoming superhero films that sound a bit out of the box?
I like the premise of the upcoming Batman vs Superman film. It's the first time I've seen them take the angle of "how would people react if someone/thing arrived that not only confirmed that we weren't alone in the universe, but also had the powers of a god". Not that I'm a particular fan of the relentlessly dour, dark, gritty tone of the Nolan/Snyder films, but this does seem like an interesting approach at least.
We prefer to play the ball here rather than the man.

Hm, fair enough. Withdrawn.
@Jack and olaf - I agree that might be pretty interesting. I was thinking about it in contrast to the MCU and I laughed when I realized they're only now getting to Civil War.

That's the thing I'll honestly say I actively dislike about the MCU. The public is too much of a non-entity derived for plot convenience. I'm not sure I have faith in Snyder to pull it off what he's doing, but it's nice to acknowledge the response would probably be faster than 9 movies before humans get around to being concerned.

Honestly, it may be the source of why my disinterest in the MCU has been picking up speed lately. There's so much actual news about real human beings being active that the MCU keeps feeling more and more alien to me. What do human beings do in it besides being members of secret organizations and/or deciding to blow up Manhattan because a beachhead exists?

I guess at the time I didn't realize it was a source of why I liked Nolan's work. It allowed people to be affected by Batman and have opinions and at the same time Wayne was being affected by the opinions and machinations of others. The stories were always noticeably about the people and structures Batman was fighting for. Perfect? No, but they tried. The MCU seems to just shorthand with "and people were protected" despite the complete in utter regularity with which people are probably killed.

And the funny thing is about people complaining about Superman inadvertently killing people in his battle with Zod? If they're paying it off only one movie later, maybe they knew exactly what they were doing.
There's a term for this: it's called Marvel Fatigue.
"Whedon moves on from the Marvel empire not as its Augustus or its Spartacus, but more like one of the later, non-terrible Christian emperors who won some battles, made some reforms and convinced everybody that the glory of Rome would endure forever. Was it worth doing? That depends on what you think of Rome."

I found this review incredibly pretentious, yet very entertaining. Good, yummy, pretentious metaphors.

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