October 20 2015
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Discuss Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x04 "Devils You Know".
This week's episode was written by Paul Zbyszewski and directed by Ron Underwood.
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Nebula1400 | October 20, 16:50 CET
Dusk | October 20, 16:51 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 16:57 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:00 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:00 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:01 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:02 CET
Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:02 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:02 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:03 CET
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Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:04 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:05 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:06 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:07 CET
Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:08 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:08 CET
JDL | October 20, 17:08 CET
(Also - Hey, Squishy!)
javelina | October 20, 17:08 CET
And Hi, Squishy.
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:09 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:09 CET
Dusk | October 20, 17:09 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:10 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:12 CET
Reminds me of when Willow was allowed to be tech-y instead of magick-y.
Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:17 CET
hann23 | October 20, 17:18 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:19 CET
It's like you summoned May back.
Sunfire | October 20, 17:20 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:20 CET
Coulson isn't really learning from Fury's mistakes by fracturing his allies.
Gemma are you...you right now?
Dusk | October 20, 17:21 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 17:21 CET
https://www.crowdrise.com/dubsmashwars
JDL | October 20, 17:22 CET
Does Jemma have a hitchhiker under her skin?
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:23 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 17:23 CET
Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:25 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:25 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:25 CET
If there were any imminent danger to the public, it would be justified, but seriously?
What just happened?
javelina | October 20, 17:26 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:27 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:30 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:30 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:32 CET
Daisy vs Dragon Lady. That should be fun.
Dusk | October 20, 17:32 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:33 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 17:35 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:35 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:35 CET
Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:35 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:36 CET
SCREAM.
Someone please tell me that commercials are on.
javelina | October 20, 17:38 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:42 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 17:42 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:42 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:43 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:43 CET
Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner | October 20, 17:43 CET
JDL | October 20, 17:44 CET
Dusk | October 20, 17:44 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:46 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:47 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:47 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:47 CET
[ edited by Nebula1400 on 2015-10-21 02:48 ]
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:47 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:48 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:48 CET
THE CAVALRY IS HERE.
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javelina | October 20, 17:49 CET
Numfar PTB | October 20, 17:54 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:55 CET
javelina | October 20, 17:55 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:56 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:56 CET
That's why he spared Daisy.
AndrewCrossett | October 20, 17:56 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:56 CET
It was pretty clever of Ward from an evil POV. May is going to break him and Hunter.
Dusk | October 20, 17:56 CET
Squishy | October 20, 17:58 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:58 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 17:59 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 17:59 CET
Numfar PTB | October 20, 18:00 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:00 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 18:00 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:00 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 18:01 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:01 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 18:01 CET
Buffyfantic | October 20, 18:01 CET
AndrewCrossett | October 20, 18:01 CET
JDL | October 20, 18:03 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 18:03 CET
Andrew interesting guess about...Andrew. It would explain why he bailed on May and won't let Coulson/Daisy form any Secret Warriors. And would be another reason for him to be mad he didn't know about the Ginger Ninja.
Or Banks for running off so fast. doubt it's Rosalind as Lash is almost certainly male and I doubt the show would make someone who directly works with the President a bad guy.
Kind of impressed they aren't dragging out Ward having an eye on Garner or Hunter's undercover mission. And now we'll get the planet story.
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Dusk | October 20, 18:04 CET
NYPinTA | October 20, 18:05 CET
Con: That episode ripped out my soul and sat on it.
Also, Lash is Glory.
Grack21 | October 20, 18:05 CET
javelina | October 20, 18:05 CET
Grack21 | October 20, 18:08 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 18:09 CET
But the situation at the convenience store was clearly out of Hydra's control for some reason. The gasoline was just lying there tipped on the floor instead of splashed around, and something had clearly terrified Strucker. That wouldn't happen if they killed Andrew as planned, nor would Strucker be so afraid if Andrew just displayed some previously unseen ninja skills and got away or fought his way out.
AndrewCrossett | October 20, 18:09 CET
Sunfire | October 20, 18:09 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:13 CET
ReaverTam | October 20, 18:13 CET
Grack21 | October 20, 18:13 CET
Which is cool.
javelina | October 20, 18:15 CET
@AndrewCrossett - that's a really solid theory and it makes a lot of sense. I like it and want it to be true because it's so fun and hey more Blair Underwood! I couldn't figure out why Strucker Jr was so upset. But this theory would explain his spasms. And we don't know who died as we didn't see important faces.
And next week the Survivor: Dusty Planet episode. I so want to see Jemma in the wild. This is going to be very cool.
Is there a reason why Daisy is always in sleeveless outfits? Is that a comic book thing? I just find it odd.
Finally, when Mac is scared, I am scared. I was really feeling the Lash fear at the start.
Well done Shield!
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hann23 | October 20, 18:18 CET
I couldn't keep because of "breaking news" that was neither breaking nor news, so am going to have to rewatch at some point.
Is Strucker Jr. good casting or what? So completely callow and hate-worthy.
javelina | October 20, 18:21 CET
Dusk | October 20, 18:26 CET
AndrewCrossett | October 20, 18:26 CET
Strucker Jr is good casting and I like him, but he reminds me so much of Owen Wilson. I keep expecting him to deliver a droll soliloquy.
hann23 | October 20, 18:28 CET
Grack21 | October 20, 18:30 CET
JDL | October 20, 18:33 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 18:37 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:39 CET
Nebula1400 | October 20, 18:43 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:44 CET
Squishy | October 20, 18:46 CET
AndrewCrossett | October 20, 18:57 CET
Hahaha.
Now I want it to be Andrew.
NYPinTA | October 20, 19:31 CET
Actually, I think it might be possible he's some kind of anti-Lash. So there could be a connection yet. Like the whole "nature creates a balance" concept, where a predator evolves, but a defense against that predator also evolves simultaneously. I admit, that's complete wild speculation, but it would be a cool concept.
But no, it doesn't make sense that he's Lash. If he were Lash, he wouldn't have SHIELD keep all their previous potential recruits (Joey, and any Inhumans from the Illiad and Afterlife) under observation and protective custody. He'd authorize them for active duty and then take them out in the field. And Andrew has never displayed any overt animosity to the Inhumans. It doesn't really fit his character.
Of course, as always, I could totally be wrong, Andrew is Lash, and the writers are just going to overlook that glaring character inconsistency.
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Batman1016 | October 20, 23:54 CET
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JDL | October 21, 00:26 CET
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Huschel | October 21, 01:16 CET
Back to the subject...
Madhatter | October 21, 03:20 CET
This would be ironic because the real threat to May and her family has been a very human Ward. Does Andrew know about Ward?
I love evil Ward.
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hann23 | October 21, 04:16 CET
It is possible this is a deliberate misdirect, and the writers *want* us to think Andrew is Lash. Writers can be tricksy that way. Good ones, anyway.
AndrewCrossett | October 21, 05:03 CET
The Andrew theory makes some sense. So much so that now I kinda don't want it to be him because I want to be surprised. But it has to be someone we know, I think... And I'm not sure who would be a better candidate.
Squishy | October 21, 09:47 CET
IrrationaliTV | October 21, 11:20 CET
Dusk | October 21, 11:24 CET
It could also be someone we have met in a previous season. Or it could be Powers Boothe's character.
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Nebula1400 | October 21, 12:06 CET
And I have to say, although I understand Hunter's mission and for the most part support it (because Ward is totally evil) I am pretty angry at him for going in anyhow, knowing that Andrew was in danger. Bad Hunter, bad!
NYPinTA | October 21, 16:24 CET
He's the best! At being the worst. He's so much more fun now.
Sunfire | October 21, 16:47 CET
2) If he's not Lash, he's definitely Inhuman.
KissingToast | October 22, 06:23 CET
erendis | October 22, 17:48 CET
D-e-f- | October 23, 03:57 CET
I don't think he considers himself evil, and I don't think he considers himself to be working against SHIELD... more like they're working against him, occasionally.
I think Andrew is working with SHIELD now mainly in an attempt to understand the new Inhumans and judge which ones are worthy of survival. In the comics, Lash doesn't kill ALL Inhumans... only those he judges unworthy. I suspect TV Lash is the same.
AndrewCrossett | October 23, 05:13 CET
I wonder if next week's entire ep will be flashback/Jemma-on-planet, or if we'll get some present day scenes.
And yes, as Daisy suspected and as a few people have mentioned here, I'm also pretty sure that Coulson and Rosalind are gonna bone (not just a kiss -- poor Phil's waited almost two and a quarter seasons for any action and I doubt Amy Acker's gonna be brought back in to the story). Maybe there'll finally be time if they resolve most threats by mid-season (Ward & Lash).
Kris | October 23, 08:53 CET