Discuss Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x06 "Among Us Hide..." - Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Yay!

(I had a bad day. So I'm eager.)

I had a tooth pulled today for the first time since my wisdom teeth were taken in 1974. I think that qualifies for bad-daydom, too. So this might make the screaming gap in the back of my mouth shut up for a while.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:00 CET

Woo hoo! First time I've been able to watch live for a few weeks now.

Destructo Girl | November 03, 18:00 CET

So Ward represents today and May represents what we want to do to today.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:01 CET

Welcome to episode 50 of Agents of SHIELD.

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:01 CET

Checking In!!!!!

And Andrew is lying.

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hann23 | November 03, 18:01 CET

Hunter got lucky.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:01 CET

Yay Phil.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:03 CET

That was chilling! "Yeah. I'm back."

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:04 CET

"I'm back"

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:04 CET

I think Andrew is lying, too, hann23.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:04 CET

Or, he's hiding out as a SHIELD agent.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:05 CET

Ha. I don't think I'd ever want to be tested by May...

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:07 CET

Mockingbird and the Cavalry.....

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Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:07 CET

Hate to see May lose control if she was pushed.

Dusk | November 03, 18:08 CET

If Andrews is an Inhuman they are doing a decent job of obfuscating it.

JDL | November 03, 18:09 CET

You know though, that kid that attacked Andrew seemed a lot more freaked out than just because his kill job went south...

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:09 CET

How will May react if Andrew is Lash?

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:10 CET

Exactly NYPinTA - he looked way over the top freaked.

hann23 | November 03, 18:11 CET

Or Andrew is some other monster.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:12 CET

Their angry flirting cracks me up.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:13 CET

"That's really specific..." hahaha.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:15 CET

"That's really specific."

Oh, Fitz. Laughing.

(Hey, everyone!)

javelina | November 03, 18:15 CET

Not sure if Hunter would be the best for those advices....

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:15 CET

"Angry flirting" is a nice way to put it, NYPinTA.

javelina | November 03, 18:15 CET

Uh oh... I'm calling this a red herring... because it's too shifty and obvious.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:17 CET

"Banks" - so, it's not Banks?

javelina | November 03, 18:17 CET

@javelina, it just fits them so much! They crack me up.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:17 CET

Hunter feeling useless, is kind of adorable.

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:18 CET

I'm mad at Hunter but feel bad for him too. Aw, poor Hunter.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:18 CET

Poor desperate Hunter.

Dusk | November 03, 18:19 CET

This will probably be a very Simmons-lite episode, considering how much heavy lifting Elisabeth did last week....

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:20 CET

Why are you mad at Hunter, NYPinTA?

They probably filmed the two episodes simultaneously, Numfar.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:21 CET

For trying to take the shot at Ward even though Andrew was in danger.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:23 CET

Love those glasses!

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:24 CET

Yes, that was mean.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:24 CET

It's impossible to stay mad at Hunter.

Nebula, you're probably right about the filming schedule.

javelina | November 03, 18:25 CET

Maybe Banks is Hydra? The red herring for the red herring?

javelina | November 03, 18:26 CET

There was a Thatcher biographies joke in the Sherlock episode "Hounds of Baskerville."

I am way too geeked out. Sigh.

javelina | November 03, 18:27 CET

Oh no.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:28 CET

Hunter you moron! Nice try Bobbi!

Dusk | November 03, 18:28 CET

Oh, Hunter. javelina_kid and I are laughing hysterically.

javelina | November 03, 18:29 CET

I can't help it. I'm laughing at Hunter's... impulsiveness.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:29 CET

I agree with javelina. It's hard to remain angry at Hunter, even when he pulls a stunt like he just did.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:29 CET

Oh Hunter.... OMFG.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:32 CET

Or the next stunt he just did. I had a mouthful of wine and the "blood draw" was damn near a spit take.

javelina | November 03, 18:32 CET

I tuned in halfway and omg all my jokes about Phil and Rosalind hate-dating have come true.

Sunfire | November 03, 18:35 CET

Well that was a waste of food...

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:36 CET

I'm really hoping, Sunfire, that the Coulson/Rosalind thing does NOT happen. But they're certainly having fun aiming us that way.

javelina | November 03, 18:39 CET

Something is bothering me, starting to wonder if we might get another big death from the main cast by the mid-season finale. We did lose Tripp last year....
Especially with this episode, with so many people who escaped death.

[ edited by Numfar PTB on 2015-11-04 03:41 ]

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:39 CET

Please please please Fitz don't be lying.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:41 CET

ahhh Fitz gave the Dwarves stealth mode.

Sunfire | November 03, 18:43 CET

"Tensions are running high," says javelina-kid in a stagey announcer's voice.

He ain't wrong.

javelina | November 03, 18:44 CET

Ok... so no, not happy to see Coulson just watching. But what else is he supposed to do? He's getting a tour. He can't pitch a fit in the middle of it. *takes a calming breath*

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:44 CET

I was thinking the same thing, Numfar. They need to thin the herd. My son thinks it's going to be Coulson. I'm thinking Andrew, but maybe the talk about a spin-off with Bobbi and Hunter is a misdirect.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:47 CET

Are they giving people the choice though?

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:49 CET

I am unable to believe a word Rosalind says.

javelina | November 03, 18:50 CET

No no no don't make her likable or sympathetic! Dammit.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:50 CET

No no stop it! Go back to angry flirting!

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:51 CET

Is this a trap?

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:52 CET

Good. I didn't like him.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:53 CET

I doubt that, man. Mockingbird is nearly 6 feet tall.

Sunfire | November 03, 18:53 CET

Uh oh..... Noooooo!

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:53 CET

Hah! He changed into "that thing."

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:53 CET

Surprised we're losing Strucker this fast.

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:54 CET

OHHHH gold stars for all the correct guesses week before last.

Edited for what is time?

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Sunfire | November 03, 18:54 CET

Oh, my God, people - all of you Andrew-is-Lash people whom I did not believe? ALL THE PROPS.

javelina | November 03, 18:54 CET

Yep! We all knew this one...

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:54 CET

Ok then.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:54 CET

Oh... frak... kinda.
We were already mostly speculating this two weeks ago.

Numfar PTB | November 03, 18:54 CET

Poor baby Strucker.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:55 CET

Mal Reynolds voice: huh.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:55 CET

Whoa.

mnspnr | November 03, 18:56 CET

Nebula, some of us knew it (you). Some of us vaguely wondered in a lackadaisical "nah, they won't do that" way.

WOW.

javelina | November 03, 18:56 CET

Andrew must have taken his fish oil, though Lash had a different origin in the comics.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:56 CET

Well heck.

JDL | November 03, 18:56 CET

If I'm an Inhuman, I would not change, because vegans don't do fish oil.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 18:58 CET

Oh ick. Now I'm mad.

NYPinTA | November 03, 18:59 CET

Well, if the trailer's anything to go by, they aren't going to drag out the Lash reveal, are they?

javelina | November 03, 19:00 CET

We were right! This was was pretty good at giving everyone a moment even though it is mostly table-setting. Next week looks intense.

Interesting contrast, Lash in the comics sees Terrigen as holy and kills those he thinks are unworthy of their powers. Show Lash seems to kill those he sees as threats to regular people.

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Dusk | November 03, 19:03 CET

They haven't dragged much out this season. This makes me wonder where they're going in the long run. Probably the whole Civil War thing, but what else?

Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:03 CET

Great episode tonight with that Lash reveal.

Buffyfantic | November 03, 19:03 CET

So I liked seeing Bobbi back in the field and her and May working together. Hunter being a lost puppy because no one would let him help was hilarious. The brief glimpse of Fitz and Simmons was fun, if a touch troubling. Not sure about the Lash reveal. I know it was speculated, but I was hoping that maybe Andrew was just something else... :/

NYPinTA | November 03, 19:04 CET

We get Blair Underwood as a maybe-villain definite-Inhuman intensifying-May-complication. All good news.

Sunfire | November 03, 19:04 CET

I think Jed and Maurissa said something about Lash being different on the show than in the comics.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:04 CET

Coulson saying "it's like a horror flick" seem like a shout out to CitW? Boxes of monsters?

Kudos to @AndrewCrossett and all the other speculators for nailing Andrew-is- Lash.

Overall, I really enjoyed the ep. I was expecting a bigger let down after last week's awesomeness but the ep was solid. I adore "MockingMay" (thx you Twitter for the name)

And I don't want the herd thinned. But I wonder if the portal is going to cause some kind of terrible awful choice for the team.

hann23 | November 03, 19:07 CET

Man, you guys all called that one.

Also, I demand someone make a mashup inserting May saying "I'm Back" into every Arnold movie.

Grack21 | November 03, 19:11 CET

Yay! I got one right!

Wonder if Strucker is still alive, and if he will be Team SHIELD now.

I guess we've seen the last of Kebo.

AndrewCrossett | November 03, 19:15 CET

So - none of us has really bothered mentioning Senior Hydra Dude. Do we think he's going to be important, or is he just going to be another obstacle for Ward to run over / poison / blow up / whatever?

And AndrewCrossett, yeah, I think Kebo is ... over.

javelina | November 03, 19:20 CET

Strucker is afraid of Ward. Either he's going to go deep into the dark side, or he'll be an asset for SHIELD. Or his beating could be a ploy to get him to infiltrate SHIELD. Then again, Lash may make him shit his pants.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:20 CET

Then again, Strucker doesn't seem to fear Senior Hydra Dude, so his role is still a mystery.

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Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:23 CET

@hann23, nice point about the Cabin in the Woods callout - I say yes, definitely that was on purpose!

javelina | November 03, 19:25 CET

Senior Hydra Dude is played by Powers Boothe, who played an unnamed member of the World Security Council in The Avengers.

Bishop | November 03, 19:29 CET

And Senior Hydra Dude was OK with nuking NYC, if he's the same character.

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Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:33 CET

I think Strucker is probably dead. What would Ward have to gain from having one of his known agents captive in SHIELD, particularly one so inexperienced? Right now it seems like Ward wants to stay away from SHIELD since he's still building up.

Crazy long-shot theory I've seen on a few boards: Lincoln is actually Ward's little brother that was in The Well. It'sounds crazy but if they are willing to pull a bit of a long con with Andrew and need to justify keeping Ward alive over and over again it could work.

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Dusk | November 03, 19:38 CET

Welp, I don't like Senior Hydra Dude then. (Stop picking on NYC, Hollywood!)

I too was thinking Strucker's "beating" was a misdirect to get him in SHIELD, or to lure May and Bobbi.

NYPinTA | November 03, 19:39 CET

And Senior Hydra Dude was OK with nuking NYC, if he's the same character.

Yup. Seems like exactly the sort of thing an evil Hydra dude would do, doesn't it?

Bishop | November 03, 19:39 CET

Also, since no one's mentioned it yet: "Safe as houses"! I lost it! Nobody else in the room got why it was funny.

Bishop | November 03, 19:43 CET

If Strucker is already dead, it seems kind of pointless to have brought him on the show at all. He had "story arc" written all over him, so I think he's still alive.

AndrewCrossett | November 03, 19:43 CET

He might still be alive but the show has dropped people before. Gravitron's still in his box isn't he?

Dusk | November 03, 19:47 CET

FUUUUUUUUCk the news broke in during lashs transformation for election results!!!!!!

eddy | November 03, 19:48 CET

Good heavens, eddy, where do you live that election results actually matter this year?

javelina | November 03, 19:50 CET

Yeah, and what the heck ever happened to that Quinn guy?

I believe it's been confirmed that Boothe is playing.is the same character that he played in The Avengers.

Grack21 | November 03, 19:51 CET

May be in minority opinion here, but this was one of those SHIELD episodes where in their efforts to give every character their 5 minutes of screen time, no one is particularly well served. Hopefully in the next couple weeks the show starts culling down plot lines and cast members to something slightly more manageable.

That said, any TV program that features Powers Boothe in a recurring role of any kind should automatically win an Emmy

TallMichaelJ | November 03, 19:52 CET

I think the show is more tightly written now, Dusk.

I like the Lincoln theory.

Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:53 CET

You need to move, eddy. You have the worst luck when watching AOS!

Nebula1400 | November 03, 19:54 CET

I think Quinn GTFO with the Gravitron box in the Season 1 finale.

Dusk | November 03, 19:55 CET

Next episode, when Daisy finds out Coulson still intends to work with ATCU despite what he saw at the warehouse, will be the official beginning of the Civil War storyline in the MCU.

AndrewCrossett | November 03, 19:57 CET

I was so pissed about local news cutting in that I forgot who was in the scene with Strucker when he talks about the monster. Was it Bobbi or May? Does May know about Andrew?

eddy | November 03, 20:37 CET

Well, Senior Hydra dude, probably the one who's calling shots on Hydra people who were in Antman. Now, that makes a lot more sense.

Numfar PTB | November 03, 21:45 CET

eddy May was holding Von Junior as he was talking about Andrew, so...yeah, she knows. And the look on her face...

As soon as Andrew started recounting what happened I thought "Damn! Those Whedonesque folks were right!" - it just seemed too...pat. So for the rest of the episode I listened to what he was saying as being Lash talking, not Andrew.

I was rather concerned when Bobbi went into the pool with Ward's #2 dude "And her lung's not at 100%. C'mon, May, finish those guys!" but it was a good way to prove she *is* ready.

Hunter, ya lovable nut. "Yeah, probably some anger issues."

So, let's see: Hunter wants revenge on Ward for shooting Bobbi. May wants revenge on Ward for holding Andrew hostage, and wants to kick Hunter's butt for endangering Andrew by shooting Ward. Andrew is Inhuman, killing other Inhumans for reasons unknown, but protecting Skye/Daisy. Daisy seems to have feelings for Lincoln. Jemma thought she was developing feelings for Leo, who totally has feelings for her, but then got sucked into the monolith & spat out on a deadly night planet and fell in love with Will, who Fitz is actually going to help her save if possible. Then there's the whole Coulsalind thing.

Damn. Relationships are complicated!

ShadowQuest | November 03, 22:56 CET

@Bishop "Also, since no one's mentioned it yet: "Safe as houses"! I lost it! Nobody else in the room got why it was funny."

Can you explain? I feel stupid for not getting it either. :)

D-e-f- | November 04, 05:53 CET

ShadowQuest needs to summarize all episodes from now on.

Nebula1400 | November 04, 08:06 CET

Having Andrew revealed as an Inhuman is a great idea, and totally explains what happened between him and May. Revealing him as Lash is so terrible an idea I can't believe they went with it, as it fits absolutely nothing about his character as developed so far, and totally feels wedged-in and out of left field. Completely unearned.

I'ma just say it. Last night's episode was bad. Nobody was well-served in their limited screen time, and almost everyone was acting completely contradictory to their established character. And not in an interesting way. In a contrived, drive-the-plot way.

If it turns out that Fitz is actually lying about the wormhole because of Hunter's bullsh!t advice, I'm... going to get really mad. Marvel knows full well I won't quit watching, though. Dammit.

Agent | November 04, 08:24 CET

OK episode and I enjoyed the May/Bobbi action scenes. But I didn't love how they handled the Andrew/Lash plot.

The way it played out, it was SO obvious that Andrew was Lash that it completely sucked a lot of the tension out of the Daisy subplot.

Seemed like a waste of time, just to get her to the point where she could see Coulson on the drone camera. Which itself just seems like the writers are trying to build tension out of a misunderstanding, rather than something more substantial.

I also didn't really buy that Bobbi would be pissed at Hunter making the call he did, and would've loved to have seen more evidence of her internal "am I ready?" struggle in the previous few episodes. It felt a little forced and rushed here.

Knuckleball | November 04, 08:34 CET

Hunter is a loose cannon; I wonder what they're going to do about that or where the show will go with it.

It seemed like Phil wasn't covering his dislike of, and impatience with, Rosalind too well after he told Daisy that it's better to cut off emotional attachments, makes the job easier.

I thought it was striking in the scene at the ATCU they are storehousing inhumans in compartments. To me, it was very much like the monsters in Cabin in the Woods being locked into those glass enclosures within the elevator system. It would be neat if all the inhumans escaped and wreaked havoc on that facility.

Tonya J | November 04, 09:44 CET

Tonya J I'm picturing something like a cross between "Cabin" and when the Initiative lost control of the Hostiles. Oh, havoc!

Nebula1400 Thanks. I think...

ShadowQuest | November 04, 11:04 CET

D-e-f- I think the "Safe as houses" laugh was on account of the running use of the phrase on Buffy.

Also... after a long hiatus I am so happy to return to Whedonesque! I've missed you all!!!

CrazyKidBen | November 04, 12:04 CET

Welcome back CrazyKidBen and thanks for the safe houses splainly. I needed help on that one too.

Ooooh now I can't wait for Inhuman mass escape - the carnage!

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hann23 | November 04, 13:45 CET

Welcome back. "Safe as houses" was used on Buffy a lot? I don't recall that phrase at all for some reason. Hmmm.

edit: apparently it was used in S3's "Enemies" in a scene where Buffy and Angel kiss. Of course Angel says it (old timey and all).

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D-e-f- | November 04, 14:14 CET

Well, I was wrong about Andrew not being Lash. Gotta say, I agree with Agent, it doesn't make any sense. I just don't see it in his character. There better be some damn good explanation for that in the next episode.

On Agent's other points . . . no, I think it was a fine episode. Hunter was funny, May and Bobbi were badass, and I like that they're actually developing Rosalind as an actual person. I am a tad annoyed that the whole Ward/Hydra sub-plot appears to be going nowhere right now. And I'd find it rather refreshing if Strucker just died instead of becoming another dangling some-day plot thread. But otherwise, solid episode.

Sure gonna be some fallout between Daisy and Phil . . . .

Batman1016 | November 04, 20:56 CET

I really enjoyed this episode although I was convinced Andrew was Lash two weeks ago so no real surprise there for me.

Seeing the containment boxes was very CiTW/ Initiative, we all know that ended well. However in my wild speculation I feel that we've been shown this so it could be an option for Agent May so Andrew/Lash doesn't need to be killed, but put on aspic and contained 'pending cure'.

The Do That Girl | November 05, 06:49 CET

Or they could put a chip in his brain so he can't attack people/unpeople anymore. :)

D-e-f- | November 05, 07:34 CET

Finally got to watch, a few days late. Kudos to everyone who called the Andrew-is-Lash thing; I didn't think it made sense, two weeks ago. Still not convinced it does, but I'm curious where they're going with it.

I also agree that we didn't get enough setup on Bobbi's concern about going back into the field--as someone said above, it would've been nice to see that developed a bit more in previous episodes.

I also think it's interesting that Fitz is researching Will. Looks like what he took away from the Hunter conversation was: "what do you really know about this guy?"

I'm very curious to see what he finds out. He's obviously learned something about the guy already, and is not telling Simmons that he's looking into it.

erendis | November 07, 18:26 CET

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