November 10 2015
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Discuss Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 3x07 "Chaos Theory".
The episode was written by Lauren LeFranc and directed by David Solomon.
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Dusk | November 10, 17:50 CET
JDL | November 10, 17:51 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 17:57 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 17:58 CET
Sunfire | November 10, 18:00 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:01 CET
Sunfire | November 10, 18:02 CET
Numfar PTB | November 10, 18:03 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:03 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:03 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:04 CET
Oh Andrew!
hann23 | November 10, 18:05 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:05 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:06 CET
hann23 | November 10, 18:07 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:08 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:09 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:09 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:09 CET
Sunfire | November 10, 18:09 CET
Reminding me of anothr major time dusty things got unearthed, Illyria taking over Fred's body in Angel, weird memories.
Wonder if Lash and Andrew ties is somewhat similar.
Numfar PTB | November 10, 18:10 CET
hann23 | November 10, 18:11 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:11 CET
Watch out Joey, this may be a Fred/Illyria situation, dust and all.
Dusk | November 10, 18:11 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:11 CET
JDL | November 10, 18:11 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:13 CET
May is going to have to ... ugh.
javelina | November 10, 18:15 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:16 CET
hann23 | November 10, 18:16 CET
Lincoln may be useful, yet.
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:18 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:18 CET
Numfar PTB | November 10, 18:21 CET
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hann23 | November 10, 18:21 CET
Dusk | November 10, 18:22 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:22 CET
Pudungurte | November 10, 18:23 CET
What is the time, NumfarPTB?
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:23 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:24 CET
Sunfire | November 10, 18:26 CET
"If there is hope, it lies in ... Lincoln?" - Agents of SHIELD
javelina | November 10, 18:26 CET
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Dusk | November 10, 18:34 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:35 CET
[ edited by JDL on 2015-11-11 03:36 ]
JDL | November 10, 18:35 CET
Sunfire | November 10, 18:36 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 18:36 CET
This is just so sad. Ouch.
hann23 | November 10, 18:37 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 18:38 CET
[ edited by javelina on 2015-11-11 03:39 ]
javelina | November 10, 18:38 CET
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JDL | November 10, 18:45 CET
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NYPinTA | November 10, 19:00 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 19:00 CET
Or wait Rosalind?!
[ edited by hann23 on 2015-11-11 04:01 ]
hann23 | November 10, 19:01 CET
JDL | November 10, 19:01 CET
Buffyfantic | November 10, 19:01 CET
And seriously Mack being single probably makes him the safest agent right now.
Dusk | November 10, 19:02 CET
Grack21 | November 10, 19:04 CET
NYPinTA | November 10, 19:04 CET
Excellent episode.
hann23 | November 10, 19:05 CET
javelina | November 10, 19:08 CET
And Phil is playing Rosalind. He didn't get to where he is by being a fool.
Nebula1400 | November 10, 19:08 CET
Dusk | November 10, 19:09 CET
[ edited by Grack21 on 2015-11-11 04:14 ]
Grack21 | November 10, 19:10 CET
Well, looks like I got another theory right: the same secret cult that's been sending people to Planet X is operating within NASA and sent Will and the others there. Probably as human sacrifices.
Hunter continues to be the Spike of this show... he says things that make you want to punch him, but he's right.
AndrewCrossett | November 10, 19:16 CET
Let us not forget that Coulson's actual True Love is played by ... Fred/Illyria.
javelina | November 10, 19:17 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 19:19 CET
I think Rosalind is purposefully obtuse about her boss's nefarious intentions. She believes controlling the Inhuman population is in the best interest of her country so she's not going to ask too many questions. I suppose I believe that's she is gray - not completely evil or good.
hann23 | November 10, 19:23 CET
Nebula1400 | November 10, 19:23 CET
JDL | November 10, 19:29 CET
Re: "science we can foresee" - we are in the world of sci fi, even though the show makes me forget that sometimes. Coulson's resurrection can't be foreseen either.
javelina | November 10, 19:32 CET
javelina | November 10, 19:46 CET
I think this show has officially removed filler episodes from its playbook.
[ edited by eddy on 2015-11-11 04:47 ]
eddy | November 10, 19:46 CET
see Roz having access to won't cut it. At a minimum they would need everything that SHIELD has and a Fitz-Simmons to even
take a pass at it.
But in the final analysis I really can't see the Kree building a weapon like the Inhumans that could be negated in this way.
JDL | November 10, 19:51 CET
[ edited by javelina on 2015-11-11 05:00 ]
javelina | November 10, 20:00 CET
I don't think they will find a way to reverse something that is part of the genetic blueprint of Inhumans, just as there are illnesses IRL where there is no cure, because the conditions are determined by the genetic makeup of their sufferers.
Roz is not in charge of whatever frikkin' initials organization she represents, is she? Maybe the World Council guy is in charge of it. She may or may not know he's Hydra. Anyway, the ATCU may (1) be a means of collecting an army of Inhumans for Hydra; (2) be a means of gathering and destroying Inhumans for the Kree, who have been trying to wipe them out; (3) could be behind the NASA program using the portal to travel to another galaxy (oh, f-ing Stargate...); (4) could be all of the above; (5) could be none of the above.
Coulson is working a long game here. I have no doubt about it.
Nebula1400 | November 10, 20:35 CET
javelina | November 10, 20:47 CET
[ edited by Nebula1400 on 2015-11-11 09:40 ]
Nebula1400 | November 10, 21:03 CET
*new word !
JDL | November 10, 21:40 CET
Tonya J | November 10, 22:17 CET
We're about due for a Mike Peterson/Deathlok appearance too. Plus tying up Quinn and that professor that fell into the Gravitonium way back near the beginning of Season 1 too.
Nice return to form -- I thought last week's ep was the only sorta-weak link in the season thus far. The FitzSimmons B plot was nice too.
Kris | November 10, 22:51 CET
My initial thought when I saw Powers Booth answering his phone was that he was calling Lincoln. Also, Lincoln's a big of an idiot as of late, yes?
Ming-Na Wen shot this episode out of the park. I think I may need to make a Melinda May Fan Club.
I thought Lash was going to be the Big Bad of this half of the season, but I guess we are back at the ATCU (with, presumably, Hydra for the second half). Which is fine, because they can do way more with the ATCU then they can with Lash. I am beginning to wonder why we are (again) being strung along with the Ward train. Either he needs to start being a major part in this show or he needs to go away. He's just kind of filler at this point. Either make him the big bad, or go for redemption. I'm tired of just seeing him gather supplies though.
(Last year, I said the same thing about him being kept in that cell, and next episode he broke out. So I think something will happen soon. But I'm bored of his character arc, as much as I enjoy his character.)
RoguePirateBunny | November 11, 00:22 CET
Grack21 | November 11, 00:25 CET
Hunter serves the purpose of stating the obvious, especially when nobody else is getting it. That's what Cordelia, Spike, and then Anya did.
Nebula1400 | November 11, 00:49 CET
So tired of Ward, hated the Rosalind twist. Can at least someone not have a hidden agenda on this show? I was really digging her chemistry with Coulson.
And why is Lincoln so dumb? I mean jeopardizing the mission to get revenge? What an idiot.
Love me some Daisy though!
Ricardo L. | November 11, 04:16 CET
Also, it seems odd that Lincoln is seemingly back in the fold, when his actions were clearly out of line, and it could be argued people died due to his choice to engage the way he did. Also - not to smart play to blurt out with ATCU standing there that you know of a "directory" of all Inhumans. Roz nearly ran off screen stage left shouting "Get me that book!"
I truly hope Coulson is playing some long game here - I'm mystified as to his blasé reaction to the ACTU's, as far as I can read, blatant kidnapping and "comatizing" of Inhuman types. Unless they're all signing a waiver saying they're OK with being put to sleep and locked up, it's hard to justify and it doesn't seem like an idea Coulson would gamely go along with
Iain's acting chops really stand out, to the point where it's almost distracting. Thought Blair was also very strong although undercut a bit by the unclear nature of what exactly the Lash motivation was
The teaser suggests next week things kick into high(er) gear - and I'm pleased that I have no idea what direction that may be
TallMichaelJ | November 11, 06:28 CET
I've never really had much interest in May/Andrew. Never felt like the two had any chemistry together, so this whole conflict really didn't do anything for me. Makes me sad, because I think May is one of the more interesting characters on the show, so I wish I was more invested in this storyline.
What stood out the most for me was the dialogue - it felt really rough. I mean, Andrew's exchange with Joey ("My fate is in your hands" - "Yes, Joey. It is.") was just groan worthy. Same with his comment to Jemma early in the episode about secrets eating you up from the inside.
Knuckleball | November 11, 07:07 CET
I want the DVD set for this season to include video inside the writers' room where they broke this season's plot lines. That had to be more than one heck of a conversation.
tomg | November 11, 08:25 CET
Basically, for me, although I like Lincoln (I know some people don't), he was the most problematic. From his initial arival where he's spilling all the secrets, to him losing his cool and going at Andrew full on. :/
The rest of the episode was a gut punch. (In a good way...?)
(ETA: And why wouldn't they have taken Jiayngs (sp) books someplace more secure to be tested for anything before just handing them off to a non-agent at a non-secure location? That bugs me.)
[ edited by NYPinTA on 2015-11-11 18:07 ]
NYPinTA | November 11, 09:06 CET
Nebula1400 | November 11, 10:39 CET
Fitz, as always, was great.
Surprised at the number of people who aren't into the May/Andrew relationship. I actually think it's the most mature/human/recognizable/real of any relationship we've been presented so far. Is it that it's just not romantic enough?
Agent | November 11, 11:41 CET
JDL | November 11, 12:26 CET
Dusk | November 11, 12:52 CET
AndrewCrossett | November 11, 13:04 CET
Dusk | November 11, 13:20 CET
-Nebula1400
Very much agree. And damnit, that Fitz/Simmons thing keeps breaking my heart over and over again, especially since I'm going through a vaguely vaguely vaguely similar thing myself right now(obviously no interplanetary travel and secret societies are involved - that I know of).
Only thing that bothered me was the "I lashed out" line. Rolled my eyes very loudly at that one. The corny "my fate lies on your hands" line and the one about secrets just flew by but the direct reference to his name was a bit odd. Would've worked if nobody had called him Lash on the show, I think.
D-e-f- | November 11, 13:35 CET
tomg | November 11, 13:53 CET
What slammed me in the gut was simply May's pain. Ming Na conveyed so much with so little. And seeing her in pain made me love her so much more because she wasn't just the "Calvary."
I wanted to share that for me it's possible to feel the feels without the shipping. I was literally crying for May because she was so hurt. I feel weepy thinking about it now as I type. I really thought Ming Na was outstanding but maybe I missed something.
I also just want Joyce to give May a cup of hot chocolate.
hann23 | November 11, 14:56 CET
And May's pain, even though I don't care much about her coupledom with Andrew (there being so little about him previously, to care) was so palpable and grounded, you get a sense of how important her relationship with him was or could have been again, even though you the viewer may not be invested in it at all.
Tonya J | November 11, 16:20 CET
hann23 | November 11, 17:00 CET
Tonya J | November 11, 18:20 CET
"This . . . , is my BOOMSAW!"
Where is Sam Axe when we need him most?
RobynH | November 11, 22:54 CET
May to Andrew: "I love crayon-breaky Andrew and I love lashy inhumany Andrew".
KissingToast | November 12, 07:30 CET
This is not to say that the episode wasn't good. I just have a hard time buying that May and Andrew actually have a relationship.
[ edited by Nebula1400 on 2015-11-12 23:37 ]
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