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May 09
2017
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Discuss Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 4x21 "The Return".
The episode was written by Maurissa Tancharoen and Jed Whedon. It was directed by Kevin Tancharoen.
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Also one of the better tag scenes in a while, especially after last week's no-show for the movie clip.
Dusk | May 09, 20:51 CET
Grack21 | May 09, 20:53 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 20:55 CET
Dusk | May 09, 20:56 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 20:59 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:00 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:01 CET
javelina | May 09, 21:02 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:03 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:03 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:03 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:04 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:05 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:07 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:09 CET
javelina | May 09, 21:09 CET
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 21:11 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:12 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:13 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:14 CET
javelina | May 09, 21:14 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:15 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:17 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:18 CET
JDL | May 09, 21:24 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:26 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:31 CET
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 21:32 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:32 CET
Grack21 | May 09, 21:33 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:33 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:34 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:35 CET
mnspnr | May 09, 21:36 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:37 CET
javelina | May 09, 21:43 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:43 CET
Reverse Buffy/Angelus.
Talbot's stuck back in the LMD arc.
Dusk | May 09, 21:43 CET
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:46 CET
Aida's going to destroy the world over a man? She's better off without him!
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:46 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:51 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:54 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:54 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:56 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 21:56 CET
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 21:57 CET
Does Talbot know about Ghost Rider? He doesn't, does he?
NYPinTA | May 09, 21:58 CET
Dusk | May 09, 21:59 CET
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 22:01 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 22:01 CET
Also, both the book am I reading and the show I am watching have a character named Fitz that the creator(s) are doing horrible things to!
Grack21 | May 09, 22:03 CET
Great episode tonight.Can't wait for the finale next week.
Buffyfantic | May 09, 22:03 CET
Grack21 | May 09, 22:04 CET
JDL | May 09, 22:11 CET
Grack21 | May 09, 22:15 CET
Nebula1400 | May 09, 22:16 CET
Dusk | May 09, 22:23 CET
I think the jury is still out on whether the Framework natives are sentient or just really convincing simulations. If so, it would be good news for Mack and Hope, and Ward, and Trip. But bad news for Fitz, who would now be confronted with the fact that he killed and tortured more than just 2 real people.
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 22:23 CET
Grack21 | May 09, 22:48 CET
JDL | May 09, 22:51 CET
BlueSkies9 | May 09, 22:52 CET
Aida 2.0
Agnes Kitsworth
Madame Hydra
Crazy Ophelia (hey, just like Hamlet only with superpowers)
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 22:56 CET
Seems like Hydra got Gordon and Lincoln in the Framework and possibly Shockley's "back together" factor since she reassembled from 10 bullets so fast. Possibly VJ's initial speed too since we saw him in the machine in the Framework.
Framework Mace had Inhuman powers. With Elena strapped down like that it's probably known she has speed.
[ edited by Dusk on 2017-05-10 04:59 ]
Dusk | May 09, 22:59 CET
Grack21 | May 09, 23:08 CET
And if Coulson can do that with his shield, why didn't he do the same thing when he was fighting the other Ivanov bots?
AndrewCrossett | May 09, 23:15 CET
Dusk | May 09, 23:18 CET
"Even underwater, Ophelia's sooo thirsty."
Dusk, you were on fire last night, LOL (and also, giant "Bwah haaaaah!" at the fisting comment...so wrong). :)
Ophelia's healing powers more likely come from Jiaying than put-back-together-again exploding Watchdog Shockley.
If Ophelia can duplicate a la Ginger-Ninja, SHIELD is definitely screwed.
On the one hand, cool that they're tying the entire season together. On the other, Ghost Rider feels like he's gonna turn out to be one giant flaming Deus Ex Machina. On the OTHER other hand, we needed better closure on Robbie Reyes and Luna IS a lot of fun in that role (and smoldering, no pun intended).
AIDA/Ophelia was sympathetic/having an interesting arc and her freakout (understandable, given that she's newly experiencing emotions all at once, without getting to learn them over a childhood and teenage years the way we get to -- she's basically a toddler, emotionally, experiencing her "Terrible Twos") appears to undercut that, maybe. Woman scorned ? Oh well, let's see how the finale plays out. I want it to get more emotionally in-depth when it comes to AIDA, though, or at least further embrace its weirdness and bust open everything about The Darkhold's influence on her.
Fantastic episode.
[ edited by Kris on 2017-05-10 09:10 ]
Kris | May 10, 03:09 CET
punkinpuss | May 10, 08:00 CET
All of the Ivanovs would be aware of the trick after the first time, but it would be hard to avoid it during a fistfight. Rather than trying to punch a robot into submission, Coulson might find it more effective to carve vital pieces off it.
AndrewCrossett | May 10, 08:26 CET
Not particularly invested in Mack / YoYo, and the Ghost Rider twist seems shoe horned in ... but how this wraps for Aida,Fitz,Simmons will have me tuned in for the finale
TallMichaelJ | May 10, 08:27 CET
Thanks, Kris.
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Dusk | May 10, 08:31 CET
NYPinTA | May 10, 10:25 CET
[ edited by Kris on 2017-05-11 10:14 ]
Kris | May 11, 04:14 CET
We speculated about it back when AIDA cut off his head and put it in a jar. But then the show all but screams it, and nope! No one catches it.
He flat out called himself a machine "designed only for killing." And he used to be called "The Superior," which is a title MODOK once used. Guy's friggin' MODOK!
Batman1016 | May 11, 04:24 CET
Daisy didn't have her powers because her altered history didn't include getting them. Since there was a nationwide manhunt for Inhumans, that wasn't true for everyone.
Jason_M_Bryant | May 11, 07:20 CET
NYPinTA | May 11, 10:04 CET
TimeTravellingBunny | May 11, 10:54 CET
Nebula1400 | May 11, 11:12 CET
Grack21 | May 11, 11:58 CET
I believe Ghost Rider will destroy the Darkhold, but the regular cast members will kill Aidaphilia. They are the heroes and the final victory has to be theirs.
AndrewCrossett | May 11, 12:58 CET
I am very confused . . . . ;D
But I agree, I think he's definitely MODOK. I just think he's totally intended as a throw-away one-season villain, like Garrett (AKA Clairvoyant) or Whitehall (AKA Kraken) or Calvin (AKA Mr. Hyde). Certainly fine characters in their own right, but serving their purpose when all is said and done.
Know what I'm hoping for? Can we FINALLY get that whole Graviton dangling plot thread (from AAALLLL the way back in early season 1) back into the larger SHIELD tapestry?
Batman1016 | May 11, 20:39 CET
TimeTravellingBunny | May 11, 20:42 CET
[ edited by Batman1016 on 2017-05-12 09:27 ]
Batman1016 | May 12, 03:26 CET
PS I hope they let Piper join the main team now that her team mates are gone. She's like a Mini-May.
NYPinTA | May 12, 11:47 CET