Excellant articles - thanks for the post!

magdelena | May 19, 23:30 CET

I even laughed when that Verizon "Can you hear me?" guy did his little Angel cross-promotion.

I wasn't watching Angel in the early days, so can somebody tell me what this was about?

[ edited by electricspacegirl on 2004-05-19 21:49 ]

electricspacegirl | May 19, 23:48 CET

Either before or after commercials during episodes a guy would walk around on a cell phone, he'd walk down the stairs in the hotel saying "can you hear me now.....good" then he walked down that alley that Angel walks down at the end of the credits sequence saying the same thing.

That was nearly 2 years ago, it was quite funny, probably one of the last times I'll ever watch the WB too, intending to skip that channel when watching TV this Summer.

Ghost Spike | May 19, 23:57 CET

So how's everyone doing with tonight's impending finale? I'm dreading it. Will life ever be the same again? :(

Tracy | May 20, 00:06 CET

Life will never be the same, or as Illyria says, "change is constant". Pick whichever one sounds less threatening!

BTW: a bunch of us will be in the Flickr chat room during the episode - stop on by!

cubiclesatan | May 20, 00:09 CET

Did anyone see Jordan Levin on E! last night? He was asked by Kristin WHY on earth he cancelled Angel. He just smiled and went on and on about how much the WB LOVES Angel, BUT...yada yada yada. Disgusting.

Tracy | May 20, 00:20 CET

What time is the finale on and what time is that in GMT?

Caroline | May 20, 00:20 CET

9pm EST so that would be 2am in the UK (British Summer Time though). You're one hour ahead of me aren't you?

Simon | May 20, 00:25 CET

Come on, mini-Gileses, suck it up! Take a nap now and come join us in a couple hours! :)

cubiclesatan | May 20, 00:28 CET

Personally, I'm sad one moment and in denial the next. I've still got it set in my mind that the story will continue eventually. It just has to! LOL Seriously, there's apparently so much left to tell, I don't think Joss will just let it die without getting some more of it out there. His creations are so important to him, he's bound to find some way to wrap things up.

Provided the current storm doesn't knock out our phone or power (I'll be so upset if I end up missing Angel altogether) I'll be in Flickr around 11pm Eastern time.

Greyflowers | May 20, 00:28 CET

2am, school at 10 past 9, yeah, I should be able to make the FlickR chat!

Ghost Spike | May 20, 00:29 CET

Come to chat !

magdelena | May 20, 00:37 CET

Greyflowers, I'm surprised I haven't seen any fanfic competitions cropping up yet for "how would you continue the story" based on the series finale?

Of course, that might preclude spoiler knowledge. At any rate, I'm sure they'll be tons of fangirls and boys writing up stories.

cubiclesatan | May 20, 00:42 CET

I'm one hour ahead, yes. 3am for me, I might take a nap first ;-)

Thing is I don't want to be spoiled and I think it takes at least 3 hours before the download is available.

Caroline | May 20, 00:46 CET

I suppose us spoiler-fiends could strive to keep our during 'sode comments limited to: "look at that outfit!" "sniff!" and "Levin is a rat bastard"....

cubiclesatan | May 20, 00:48 CET

Like Greyflowers, I'm bouncing all over the place, psychologically...I almost had to work tonight (a big client is in town and I was going to be sucked into a very lengthy dinner) and thankfully got a last minute reprieve...otherwise, it would have been back home after midnight, a tall glass of bourbon, and then the last Angel ever, leaving me in God-knows-what kind of shape for the morning...now I can watch with my wife and we can comfort ourselves when it is all over.

I'm 49, for crying out loud. How does this show do this to me?

Chris in Virginia | May 20, 00:49 CET

Oh yeah, I'm certain of the possible fanfic, cubiclesatan. And while it's interesting to hear other people's ideas, it doesn't compare to what Joss may have in store for our heroes (and villains).

I almost had to work tonight myself. But the moment they said they had work for the 19th, I told them no way. I was honest and said it was because it was Angel's finale. I get the feeling they thought I was joking though. heh

Greyflowers | May 20, 00:55 CET

Chris is f o r t y - n i i i i n e!

Don't worry - I've hung out with older people than you who like to play the Buffy CCG. We were all pretty ticked when the game got canned, not to mention Angel. What was so great about the game (and the shows, obviously, too) is that it was friendly to a wide variety of ages. From teens on up through 50s.

cubiclesatan | May 20, 01:00 CET

Oh, there'll be fanfic, for sure. I write for the Sunnydale Socks, an RPG group on LiveJournal, and we've already got our plot for the summer all figured out.

T-minus three hours and forty-four minutes, here.

janeway216 | May 20, 01:17 CET

Let's hear a cheer for us Angel fans in the "through 50s" group. Glad to see that there are others here who have both the years and the mileage, and who find themselves nevertheless obsessed with a TV show. And also others who find themselves the object of some weird looks at work when mentioning the series with appreciation.

palehorse | May 20, 01:20 CET

I'm 42 and I actually find that my friends take my word about the show much more seriously than if I were younger.

I've made quite a few converts! Besides, I think us older viewers are able to appreciate the nuances of the show, whereas with someone who is actually in the Scoobies age group, its all "Whooa, Buffy's coooool!" and that's about it. But can they tell you WHY she's cool? I doubt it.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being presumptuous or ageist. Thats just my opinion .

Willowy | May 20, 01:30 CET

Hmmmm, though I may not get as much out of it as people older than me, I'd have to disagree. I'm 19 now, and I started watching Buffy when I was 13, though at first it may have been "Wow, Buffy's cool!", and "Wow, Buffy's hot!". That's not what makes me watch and rewatch these shows now though.

I'm younger than the Scooby Gang, and a good few years younger than Angel's Avengers, I understand the characters and what drives them, I can see that there's rarely black or white, but gray, and I don't shout "AWESOME!" every time someone kills a demon.


Speaking of fanfic, I reckon we should have a competition (no prizes, just for the honor of being the best, and to see other people's ideas), if not hear then on the flickr group, I couldn't avoid being spoiled and I've an idea brewing.

[ edited by Ghost Spike on 2004-05-19 23:43 ]

Ghost Spike | May 20, 01:39 CET

Here here ghostspike! I’m 19 next Wednesday and I resent the whole whoa 'Buffy cool' statement we may be youthful but it doesn’t mean we're superficial about the show. We get the wit and we get the nuances we get the little quirks and charms…grrr arg, sorry to go all fan boy on you willowy but it just annoys me when people think all I watch the shows for is the eye candy Or the ‘ooo Buffy kills things aspect’ of the show.But i also respect the fact that you as an older viewer may get a totally different experience than i do.

i think a fanfic competition is a great idea, i'm still searching for a good one that follows on from 'chosen'...

willowzbitch | May 20, 02:05 CET

That's ok you two...there are always exceptions, and you prove yourselves time and time again. ;)

I think I do have a point about our age group though.

Willowy | May 20, 02:11 CET

Well all I can say is the shows appeal to all age groups. Which is a rare thing these days.

Simon | May 20, 02:19 CET

I think it's nice that people of various ages get so much out of it. But it's nice to hear that it isn't just the "targeted audience" that is watching. I'm just shy of 40 - (next month is my big 4-0) and whenever you read articles about Buffy or even Angel they make it sound like it is only the younger people that watch and that is just so not true. I know many older adults who are just as enthralled. I've been watching these shows for years with my kids and we always are having long, drawn out Buffy/Angel/Firefly discussions. My daughters are 14 and 17 and they've gotten so much out of these shows and the attraction wasn't the monsters and hotties but the great storytelling. It's a shame that the show was mostly promoted to target the teen audience and those of us who don't fit that mold were lucky enough to find the show on our own and have enjoyed the ride tremendously. I feel sorry for the people who snubbed their noses at the Buffyverse because of the name or that they thought it would be like the movie. They just don't know what greatness they've missed. But I'm glad I've been a part of it for all these years. I feel though that the Buffyverse fan base will just grow as the years go on and people discover it in syndication.

Firefly Flanatic | May 20, 02:30 CET

My son is just turned 20...a year and a half ago when he heard about my addiction, he was embarrassed...now he's a regular Buffy/Angel missionary....a friend at work has a (very precocious, to be sure) 8 year old daughter who knows (and gets!) all the lyrics to "Once More With Feeling", and she is in mourning over what will happen in just over an hour...truly testament to the amazing, astounding, astonishing and altogether marvelous (hey, alliteration can only go so far without becoming tiresome) achievement Joss and his merry band of geniuses have wrought. Well put, Simon, Willowly, blwessels and all the others.

God, I am a bizarre mixture of incredible eager anticipation and bleak melancholy right now...God, I'm going to miss this...God, I truly will...

Chris inVirginia | May 20, 04:51 CET

I agree bl, about the feeling sorry for some.

Although, if they don't get it, do we even want them in our 'verse? I'm a big fan of "the more, the merrier" but we are all so enlightened here.

And your last statement about sydication discoverage... yes! It can only spawn more and more die-hard fans who get it.

Oh, this reminds me of a *short* story. My husband's friend Mike was over here keeping him company while I had several friends over to watch the season six ender. When at one point, one of our scoobies was crying, Mike said loudly "OH BOO HOO!"

SNAP! All of our heads whipped around at lightning speed and just glared right at him. LOL! Talk about a guy trying to make himself invisible! He left shortly thereafter.

So yeah! In the "just doesn't get it" camp, there's my story.

Geez now I'm sounding all elitist. Crap.

Willowy | May 20, 04:55 CET

How does one get to the Flickr chatroom, sorry if I spelled that incorrectly.

Tracy | May 20, 05:06 CET

http://flickr.com/groups_view.gne?id=35468153735@N01

And then, um, click the pink thingie

Caroline | May 20, 05:13 CET

I'm thinking that it's not such a good idea to meet in the room (for me) DURING the episode. I'd much rather come after its all over and after I've stopped bawling.

Will the room still be open after? That's the best time for discussion...

Willowy | May 20, 05:26 CET