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May 26 2004

The Last Post. Television Without Pity posts its last recap of Angel. Snarky as always, but the final grade is an A-, and 15 pages to devote to writing something is pretty impressive.

I really see TWoP as the opposite side of the coin from us in terms of how to express the love of the shows one likes. I don't mean to judge, though I probably am, but I do appreciate them, too.

One point the recap brought up that I might agree with. Since Connor has his memories back, why wouldn't he ask about Fred and Cordelia? Or does he just assume that they're still alive, but if that's the case, he saw Illyria, so now that his memories are back, wouldn't he put two and two together?

I'm gonna miss Strega's Angel recaps - I think they always hovered on the good side of snark. From what I've read I'm guessing Tim Minear would agree. YMMV.

This (from the last recap): "'No bracelets, brooches, beads, pendants, pins, or rings.' Spicule was very thorough, there. But not thorough enough, as we discover when Angel laughs triumphantly and slaps a tiara on Spicule's head."

Hee.

There wouldn't be a Whedonesque if it wasn't for TWoP. I wanted a place like that (as smart but just a tad less snarky and without some of the bitterness) of my own.

But there's other goodies to enjoy at TWoP. The recap of last week's American Idol show (with 'Our Dread Lord' Clive Davis as guest host) was inspired.

But what I reaaaaally want to know is why Aaron (Sopranos recapper) was sacked/left this week.
My favorite recapper on TWoP is djb. His recaps are some of the best creative writing I've ever read, on the internet or otherwise.

Shack, who does American Idol, is the one who got me addicted to watching Tru Calling. His unbridled and justified hatred of that show had me in stitches every week. I was saddened when he stopped recapping it. I now have to rely on my own hatred of it for enjoyment.
I find I have to be in the right mood to read a TWoP review of a show I really like. Sometimes a blow by blow, cynical, snarky, slightly mean-spirited recap just undercuts my enthusiasm to the point that it depreses me. But I do often find myself laughing out loud (at the mental image I just got from Angel crowning Spike, for example). The recaps of the shows I avoid are probably more entertaining than the shows themselves. If TWoP was the inspiration for Whedonesque, I am eternally grateful. Whedonesque: sassy and classy.
Oh God, that's right. I LOVED the Tru Calling recaps. Never watched the show, but really enjoyed Shack's stuff.

Strega was great with Angel. Never understood his hatred for Wesley, but I believe a lot of the snark is exxagerated. After all, at the very end, he admits he loves the show.

Also, I really enjoy the Smallville recaps. Very hilarious.
TWOP recaps are funny but I just don't understand why this guy thinks Wesley is a completely useless character. And he hates Illyria! How can he hate Illyria? That just saddens me.
15 Pages, damn. But they're still calling him "Spicule"? I think that's like somebody still doing the Macarena and thinking it's cool.


This is my opinion, but I just think the recaps are stale and predictable and I can't stand the recappers talking about themselves. Though I have to admit: "No bracelets, brooches, beads, pendants, pins, or rings.' Spicule was very thorough, there. But not thorough enough, as we discover when Angel laughs triumphantly and slaps a tiara on Spicule's head." is FRIKIN' hilarious!
Strega HATES Spike, so... well that's all there is to say. I can overlook his Wes and Illyria hatred just for the above alone. The recaps have me in stitches!
Strega is a girl, I think.

Yeah, she 'hates' Wesley, but also says he's the most developed character on the show. Hyperbole and surrealism are what a lot of recaps are about.

I don't think she hated Spike. She hated what the character developed into after the first couple of seasons. I think it was more about seeing a favourite character change beyond recognistion that sparked the 'Spicule' response. I'd have to agree with her on that.
Yeah, Strega's a girl, and I'll miss her recaps. Some TWoP recappers are better than others. Ace and Strega both did an amazing job with Buffy and Angel. You could tell they liked the shows they were covering. Through their snarky commentary, you could always see it. Shack was great with Tru, because the show sucks, but I think it's harder to rip apart something you like. Maybe that's why I couldn't stand the Wonderfalls recaps.
I've got to be in a certain mood to enjoy TWoP, but I go there quite often! I love the ER recaplets. Heathen (aka Heather) is really funny with them. She calls the red-headed new doctor "Malarkey" cuz that's who he played in Band of Brothers. Heh.

Don't like Strega's hatred of Wes. To me it's undeserved, even though he (i think its a he, he always watches with Joanna, and talks like they are a couple, or maybe they are a gay couple?) admitted that Wes was probably the best developed character on the show. But laughing at Wesley's death? That crosses my line.

My poor, sad Wesley. Strega even quoted (and sneered at) my favorite line, when Illy turned into Fred and Wes goes "Hellooo, theerrre..." I just loved that line.How soft and sweet he said it, knowing it was a lie, and unable to keep his love from showing through. AUGH!
I'm not a huge fan of snark but this review was witty and was written with love. Makes a nice change.
Well I like snark, but what rubbed me the wrong way about this site was that it's snark not when snark is deserved but because we're supposed to be snarky about everything, no matter what. Which actually kind of counters the real point of good snark from the get go for me.

That said, they are often funny, and often have good points. Though this one mostly was little more than a word by word summary without many comments though. I already know what happened, thanks. And what's with the 'Spicule'? Is that a blend of 'Spike' and 'ridicule'? If so....not exactly a kneeslapper of unsurpassed brilliance.... And Spike didn't change beyond recognition. His most defining elements of today are already there plain as day in School Hard. They added to the character and revealed him, but it never countered what he was first. I never understand complaints about character growth that seems to be rooted in little more than the 'things should stay the same' feeling. Most TV shows do that already. In the Buffyverse, things and characters actually grow instead of stagnating.

But to each their own.

And they complain that the circle knows about the Shanshu when only Wolfram & Hart knew about it....Helloooo McFly, Wolfram & Hart and the Circle are all vessels of the Senior Partners. Sheesh....

"I'm pretty sure that a different answer there would have saved Lindsey's life. Mostly from the way Angel was listening."

That was an interesting line. Could be true but I'm not sure. Angel knows Lindsey by now and Lorne had seen enough of him too. But an interesting thought.

"Don't like Strega's hatred of Wes. To me it's undeserved,"

Well tastes differ and they have to riff on everything because that's what the site's about. I don't understand their hatred of Wes, or Illyria, or Spike, or.....uhm.....well of most of it. I don't really get it. They watched all of Buffy and Angel and seem to have nothing but disdain for every character and plot. And they arrive on an A??

"This sucks! That sucks! I hate that character! That's so boring! Yech! Blech! Wow that was good. I give it an A."

I'm just missing it I guess. I think I should only read their stuff on shows that I hate.....American Idol huh? I'll have a look.



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